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Post by tristramshandy on Mar 19, 2020 5:30:36 GMT
I was watching MLB Network and they had a show about the 1979 baseball season. Found this amazing about the 1979 Astros - - nobody on the team had double digit home runs.
C - Alan Ashby - 2 HRs (370 plate appearances)
1B - Cesar Cedeno - 6 HRs (549 pa)
2B - Rafael Landestoy - 0 HRs (319 pa)
SS - Craig Reynolds - 0 HRs (616 pa)
3B - Enos Cabell - 6 HRs (630 pa)
RF - Jeffrey Leonard - 0 HRs (467 pa)
CF - Terry Puhl - 8 HRs (672 pa)
LF - Jose Cruz - 9 HRs (636 pa)
The bench had 14 home runs and the pitchers had 4 home runs (two each for JR Richard and Joquin Andujar).
Pete Alonzo had more home runs (53) than the whole 1979 Astros (49).
And yet, that team won 89 games and were 1.5 games out of first place in the NL West.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Mar 19, 2020 11:41:34 GMT
The park they played their home games in was the size of the Grand Canyon. I think they were built like those Whitey Herzog Cardinals teams - speed and defense.
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Post by _ on Mar 19, 2020 17:43:31 GMT
The joke about the Cardinals back then was whether or not they could beat Roger Maris each year.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Mar 20, 2020 0:36:05 GMT
I think they were built like those Whitey Herzog Cardinals teams - speed and defense. I miss those kinds of teams... not that I'm old enough to actually remember them. Not that I'd want every team to be that way, but two or three, maybe half a dozen could be fun. Weren't the 2003 or 2004 Twins kind of built like those Cardinals teams?
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Mar 20, 2020 1:04:43 GMT
I think they were built like those Whitey Herzog Cardinals teams - speed and defense. I miss those kinds of teams... not that I'm old enough to actually remember them. Not that I'd want every team to be that way, but two or three, maybe half a dozen could be fun. Weren't the 2003 or 2004 Twins kind of built like those Cardinals teams? I loved that ‘82 World Series, a clash of completely opposite ways to put together a team. Harvey’s Wallbangers vs Whitey’s Cardinals. |
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Post by SportsFan19 on Mar 20, 2020 1:08:26 GMT
I miss those kinds of teams... not that I'm old enough to actually remember them. Not that I'd want every team to be that way, but two or three, maybe half a dozen could be fun. Weren't the 2003 or 2004 Twins kind of built like those Cardinals teams? I loved that ‘82 World Series, a clash of completely opposite ways to put together a team. Harvey’s Wallbangers vs Whitey’s Cardinals. I turned 2 that June. Was Jack Clark part of that team?
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Post by Rufus-T on Mar 20, 2020 1:10:12 GMT
The joke about the Cardinals back then was whether or not they could beat Roger Maris each year. Same with the awful Mets in I think 1980 when the New York Daily News posted their pace against Roger Maris everyday.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Mar 20, 2020 1:15:56 GMT
I loved that ‘82 World Series, a clash of completely opposite ways to put together a team. Harvey’s Wallbangers vs Whitey’s Cardinals. I turned 2 that June. Was Jack Clark part of that team? Clark was on the ‘85 team that lost to the Royals. |
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Post by NJtoTX on Mar 20, 2020 1:21:09 GMT
I turned 2 that June. Was Jack Clark part of that team? Clark was on the ‘85 team that lost to the Royals. The team that got Denkingered. Loved the 80s Cards and that 82 Series. Willie McGee was my favorite player.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 20, 2020 1:31:43 GMT
The team leader in strikeouts was Alan Ashby, with 70. Players now can get 70 K's by the beginning of May. 1979 was the era of the throwback to pre lively ball, like the 1910's. Very few mashers, all or or nothing hitters like crowd every roster. George Foster, Dave Kingman, Willie Stargell, Greg Luzinski, Bill Melton. I loved it, other than the plastic grass. Which is the reason that small ball was being played. The Astros signed Nolan Ryan in 1980 and came withing an eyelash of the WS
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Post by SportsFan19 on Mar 20, 2020 1:34:18 GMT
I turned 2 that June. Was Jack Clark part of that team? Clark was on the ‘85 team that lost to the Royals. That's the team I'm familiar with, that and the next time they won the pennant (1987?), thanks to RBI Baseball III.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 20, 2020 1:45:25 GMT
Clark was on the ‘85 team that lost to the Royals. The team that got Denkingered. Loved the 80s Cards and that 82 Series. Willie McGee was my favorite player. Oh, Don Denkinger. Instant Reply should have gone in then. I remember it so well. I lot of people thought that it was Game 7 but it was in Game 6. MLB made a ghastly blunder in letting Denkinger work home plate in Game 7. He was a huge distraction, throwing out both Cards starter Joaquin Andujar and Whitey Herzog. Like Jim Joyce, Don Denkinger was a good umpire. He wasn't Jerry Meals or Angel Hernandez. At least Joyce owned up to his fuck up.
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Post by NJtoTX on Mar 20, 2020 1:56:56 GMT
The team that got Denkingered. Loved the 80s Cards and that 82 Series. Willie McGee was my favorite player. Oh, Don Denkinger. Instant Reply should have gone in then. I remember it so well. I lot of people thought that it was Game 7 but it was in Game 6. MLB made a ghastly blunder in letting Denkinger work home plate in Game 7. He was a huge distraction, throwing out both Cards starter Joaquin Andujar and Whitey Herzog. Like Jim Joyce, Don Denkinger was a good umpire. He wasn't Jerry Meals or Angel Hernandez. At least Joyce owned up to his fuck up.
Would have been 1-0 with 1 out in the 9th of Game 6. Worrell would have had Balboni and Sundberg to get for the Championship. Cards completely collapsed in Game 7, 11-0. They didn't want to be there.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Mar 20, 2020 2:02:22 GMT
Oh, Don Denkinger. Instant Reply should have gone in then. I remember it so well. I lot of people thought that it was Game 7 but it was in Game 6. MLB made a ghastly blunder in letting Denkinger work home plate in Game 7. He was a huge distraction, throwing out both Cards starter Joaquin Andujar and Whitey Herzog. Like Jim Joyce, Don Denkinger was a good umpire. He wasn't Jerry Meals or Angel Hernandez. At least Joyce owned up to his fuck up.
Would have been 1-0 with 1 out in the 9th of Game 6. Worrell would have had Balboni and Sundberg to get for the Championship. Cards completely collapsed in Game 7, 11-0. They didn't want to be there. That call took away St. Looie's focus. Herzog, Andujar and all the Cardinals imploded. They should have moved on.
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Post by fjenkins on Mar 20, 2020 17:05:53 GMT
The park they played their home games in was the size of the Grand Canyon. I think they were built like those Whitey Herzog Cardinals teams - speed and defense. But it's the same stadium Jeff Bagwell hit a ton of home runs in before the new stadium. That would imply that possible Bagwell was juicing?  ? I don't believe it. He's in the hall. (he was a juicing POS)
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Post by Toy-Cannon on Mar 20, 2020 20:35:13 GMT
The park they played their home games in was the size of the Grand Canyon. I think they were built like those Whitey Herzog Cardinals teams - speed and defense. But it's the same stadium Jeff Bagwell hit a ton of home runs in before the new stadium. That would imply that possible Bagwell was juicing? ? I don't believe it. He's in the hall. (he was a juicing POS) But Jimmy Wynn wasn't. The toy cannon would have been a superstar if he had played in another city. |
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Post by fjenkins on Mar 20, 2020 21:35:27 GMT
But it's the same stadium Jeff Bagwell hit a ton of home runs in before the new stadium. That would imply that possible Bagwell was juicing? ? I don't believe it. He's in the hall. (he was a juicing POS) But Jimmy Wynn wasn't. The toy cannon would have been a superstar if he had played in another city. He had a couple 30 knock seasons.Bill James is among a small group of people who think he belongs in the Hall of Fame (I do not).
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Mar 23, 2020 23:53:33 GMT
speed doesn't slump.
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Post by hi224 on Mar 24, 2020 0:01:44 GMT
The joke about the Cardinals back then was whether or not they could beat Roger Maris each year. cardinals always win.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Mar 24, 2020 15:43:55 GMT
The joke about the Cardinals back then was whether or not they could beat Roger Maris each year. cardinals always win. always?
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