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Post by stargazer1682 on Mar 23, 2020 18:33:29 GMT
You know, it's always been something that kind of niggled slightly at the back of my brain whenever I watched season 2, but for whatever reason, this time through I really can't help but wonder how it all worked having Willow subbing for Jenny for any length of time. I mean, she wasn't even a senior, she was still a junior. I don't know what California requirements were then, much less now, but I can't imagine she was remotely qualified; even if she was technically competent, she didn't have a high school degree, let alone a college one or a teacher's license. Even with any states that have proposed or may have instituted looser requirements to allow someone to become a teacher, you still need to have at least graduated high school.
And were they paying her? I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if Snider decided to exploit a student and get free labor, but I'd be surprised if the local teacher's union didn't find out about a 17 year old taking over one of Sunnydale High's classes, much less not getting paid to do so. Obviously Snider wouldn't have necessarily volunteered that information to them, but I can't imagine other teachers would be so keen on that. Given Snider's personality and inability to inspire respect or loyalty among anyone, surely someone among the staff would have taken joy in being able to rat him out.
Did Jenny only have one class all day? How would Willow have juggled Jenny's computer science class load with her own class schedule as a student? Ostensibly the one period we know she was covering was the class she was already in, but what about any others the rest of the day?
It also seems odd now to think how she does this her junior year; then by next year it's back to being a full time student and it's almost like this never happened.
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Post by mmexis on Apr 8, 2020 5:32:38 GMT
I think that Snyder definitely exploited Willow. Don't forget that they had had career day just a little earlier and I'm sure that he knew that Willow was in that weird top percentage and had been scouted (with Oz) for some top secret job.
Also, Willow was probably going to be the school's top graduate, so that would have encouraged Snyder to "bend the rules". As Snyder has often said, 'the Sunnydale Police are deeply stupid'. So how much more so the teachers. And there is the bubble that seems to be around that group with Giles as the epicenter. And, throw in that there was this suspicious death at the school -- rules would be bent. Also, another time he asked Willow to tutor the top jock (and by tutoring we know he meant "do the work")
But yes, all shifty shady for sure.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Apr 10, 2020 5:13:45 GMT
I think that Snyder definitely exploited Willow. Don't forget that they had had career day just a little earlier and I'm sure that he knew that Willow was in that weird top percentage and had been scouted (with Oz) for some top secret job. Also, Willow was probably going to be the school's top graduate, so that would have encouraged Snyder to "bend the rules". As Snyder has often said, 'the Sunnydale Police are deeply stupid'. So how much more so the teachers. And there is the bubble that seems to be around that group with Giles as the epicenter. And, throw in that there was this suspicious death at the school -- rules would be bent. Also, another time he asked Willow to tutor the top jock (and by tutoring we know he meant "do the work") But yes, all shifty shady for sure. There must have been a dozen or so suspicious deaths at that school by that time. lol
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Post by stargazer1682 on Apr 10, 2020 15:31:58 GMT
I think that Snyder definitely exploited Willow. Don't forget that they had had career day just a little earlier and I'm sure that he knew that Willow was in that weird top percentage and had been scouted (with Oz) for some top secret job. Also, Willow was probably going to be the school's top graduate, so that would have encouraged Snyder to "bend the rules". As Snyder has often said, 'the Sunnydale Police are deeply stupid'. So how much more so the teachers. And there is the bubble that seems to be around that group with Giles as the epicenter. And, throw in that there was this suspicious death at the school -- rules would be bent. Also, another time he asked Willow to tutor the top jock (and by tutoring we know he meant "do the work") But yes, all shifty shady for sure. There must have been a dozen or so suspicious deaths at that school by that time. lol I always love Larry's line at the start of season 3, "If we can focus, keep discipline, and not have quite so many mysterious deaths, Sunnydale is gonna rule!"
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Post by mmexis on Apr 13, 2020 8:30:37 GMT
I think that Snyder definitely exploited Willow. Don't forget that they had had career day just a little earlier and I'm sure that he knew that Willow was in that weird top percentage and had been scouted (with Oz) for some top secret job. Also, Willow was probably going to be the school's top graduate, so that would have encouraged Snyder to "bend the rules". As Snyder has often said, 'the Sunnydale Police are deeply stupid'. So how much more so the teachers. And there is the bubble that seems to be around that group with Giles as the epicenter. And, throw in that there was this suspicious death at the school -- rules would be bent. Also, another time he asked Willow to tutor the top jock (and by tutoring we know he meant "do the work") But yes, all shifty shady for sure. There must have been a dozen or so suspicious deaths at that school by that time. lol Yes, but how many were of teachers?? Given Snyder's attitude toward students, he wouldn't care if a few of them disappeared to make his life easier. Teachers on the other hand... and he should have been extra nervous considering the strange "disappearance" of Flutie.
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Post by SportsFan19 on Apr 13, 2020 11:58:17 GMT
There must have been a dozen or so suspicious deaths at that school by that time. lol Yes, but how many were of teachers?? Given Snyder's attitude toward students, he wouldn't care if a few of them disappeared to make his life easier. Teachers on the other hand... and he should have been extra nervous considering the strange "disappearance" of Flutie. Dr. Gregory and Principal Flutie, and Marcie nearly suffocated that one teacher. It's never stated they even knew Janna was killed at the school. Snyder probably covered that up. Missing/murdered students wouldn't make Snyder's life easier. 
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Post by macpro75 on Apr 17, 2020 6:28:07 GMT
and he should have been extra nervous considering the strange "disappearance" of Flutie. Snyder should've been SUPER cautious, considering he knew Flutie was EATEN on school grounds. And in that very specific scenario, it seems that death by "other than demon" is possibly scarier than demon. Or perhaps that's the kind of wooly-headed liberal thinking that leads to getting eaten.  [I'm sorry ... I HAD to!  ]
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Post by macpro75 on Apr 17, 2020 7:14:25 GMT
You know, it's always been something that kind of niggled slightly at the back of my brain whenever I watched season 2, but for whatever reason, this time through I really can't help but wonder how it all worked having Willow subbing for Jenny for any length of time. That always bugged me, too And were they paying her? I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if Snider decided to exploit a student and get free labor, but I'd be surprised if the local teacher's union didn't find out about a 17 year old taking over one of Sunnydale High's classes, much less not getting paid to do so. Obviously Snider wouldn't have necessarily volunteered that information to them, but I can't imagine other teachers would be so keen on that. Given Snider's personality and inability to inspire respect or loyalty among anyone, surely someone among the staff would have taken joy in being able to rat him out. I doubt that she was in any way compensated. Willow probably would've been flattered to be asked to teach, and never considered being paid. As for any union: If one exists, then they cannot even their members safe, so I doubt that a temporary technical violation like Willow replacing a teacher is going to be very far up on their priority list. (Although I totally agree that probably EVERYONE would love to snitch on Snyder.) At a minimum, the union probably cannot get far past funeral wreaths and fruit baskets to get other things done. Didn't Snyder also strong arm Willow into "tutoring" in The Wish? My vote goes to Snyder exploiting Willow. A lot. Did Jenny only have one class all day? How would Willow have juggled Jenny's computer science class load with her own class schedule as a student? Ostensibly the one period we know she was covering was the class she was already in, but what about any others the rest of the day? With Willow's smarts and her excellent GPA, I really could see Snyder having her teach Jenny's classes instead of taking her own. Perhaps even as a sort of "internship". As far as missing classes, it does not seem that any teacher takes attendance. Or, at a minimum, that there is little to no punishment for cutting. Good question, as always!
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