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Post by Winter_King on Mar 24, 2020 10:32:53 GMT
So the last episode of Westworld pretty much confirmed that one of Delos destinations seems to be a recreation of Westeros: Also D&D were fired from HBO due to the failure of Game of Thrones final season and were hired by Delos:
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Mar 24, 2020 13:50:42 GMT
Its not a spoiler, Game of Thrones is not part of Westworld.
Its just something that is done for fun.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Mar 25, 2020 18:19:52 GMT
I predicted this long ago…
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Mar 25, 2020 19:38:01 GMT
You also predicted that Cersei was going to win.
And as you where wrong wit that, you are wrong again
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Mar 26, 2020 14:30:57 GMT
I stopped watching this show .
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Post by shinnickneth on Apr 5, 2020 3:12:01 GMT
Its not a spoiler, Game of Thrones is not part of Westworld. Its just something that is done for fun. Right. GRRM said as much. They did however appear together in Game of Thrones S08E04 between Jon and Tormund:
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Post by shinnickneth on Apr 5, 2020 3:16:33 GMT
I stopped watching this show . Same with me. I watched all of season 1 and partial season 2 before hanging up the remote. I found it predictable, shallow, and overly violent. I don't mind the third aspect when there's substance (like with Game of Thrones), but Westworld lacked that, in my opinion. It was just the same thing over and over of watching characters get killed/raped/etc...no thanks.
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Post by Marv on Apr 5, 2020 18:37:32 GMT
I’ll probably check it out in a few weeks. I wanted to have a few episodes lined up so I can watch a few at a time. I worry that this is one of those shows that’ll continue to overly complicate itself just to try to confuse the viewer and at a certain point that just gets to be no fun for me.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 7, 2020 12:11:33 GMT
I worry that this is one of those shows that’ll continue to overly complicate itself just to try to confuse the viewer and at a certain point that just gets to be no fun for me. This is exactly what it is. The half smart fall for it never realising they are being mocked.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 7, 2020 12:52:47 GMT
I’ll probably check it out in a few weeks. I wanted to have a few episodes lined up so I can watch a few at a time. I worry that this is one of those shows that’ll continue to overly complicate itself just to try to confuse the viewer and at a certain point that just gets to be no fun for me. I'd say they make a good job at giving the answers at the end of the season. It usually ties up all loose ends. At least it was in season 1 and 2. Season 3 seems pretty clear cut so far.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 7, 2020 19:52:15 GMT
So far, Westworld is the far better show. It can be that it will be ruined like Lost, Battlestar Galactica or GoT, but for now it is top notch.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 9, 2020 6:19:09 GMT
Westworld turned to crap in its first season already. It doesn't give any satisfying answers. It's plot is mostly self-despising pseudo-progressive garbage. This show properly stinks.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 9, 2020 9:45:32 GMT
So far, Westworld is the far better show. It can be that it will be ruined like Lost, Battlestar Galactica or GoT, but for now it is top notch. I really hope they avert the BSG/Matrix/Mass Effect type of story where AI and humans will live together in peace.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 11, 2020 16:49:17 GMT
I stopped watching this show . Same with me. I watched all of season 1 and partial season 2 before hanging up the remote. I found it predictable, shallow, and overly violent. I don't mind the third aspect when there's substance (like with Game of Thrones), but Westworld lacked that, in my opinion. It was just the same thing over and over of watching characters get killed/raped/etc...no thanks. Well said I agree , In the begining Dolores reminded me of Alice in wonderland I think even her look the way the character dressed ,reminded me of her even the show did to some extend ,then they made her gun crazy ,then show took their sweet time to come back lost ineterst and yes too violent for my taste .
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Post by bluerisk on May 4, 2020 23:16:03 GMT
Same with me. I watched all of season 1 and partial season 2 before hanging up the remote. I found it predictable, shallow, and overly violent. I don't mind the third aspect when there's substance (like with Game of Thrones), but Westworld lacked that, in my opinion. It was just the same thing over and over of watching characters get killed/raped/etc...no thanks. Well said I agree , In the begining Dolores reminded me of Alice in wonderland I think even her look the way the character dressed ,reminded me of her even the show did to some extend ,then they made her gun crazy ,then show took their sweet time to come back lost ineterst and yes too violent for my taste . My Dolores is gone...
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 5, 2020 6:34:30 GMT
Well said I agree , In the begining Dolores reminded me of Alice in wonderland I think even her look the way the character dressed ,reminded me of her even the show did to some extend ,then they made her gun crazy ,then show took their sweet time to come back lost ineterst and yes too violent for my taste . My Dolores is gone... Dolores was the Daenerys of Westworld. She went through the same arc in basically one season, which was a bold move on the part of the writers, announcing the turn of events in GoT before it even happened. Her change into Wyatt is parallel to Daenerys becoming The Dragon, with only the surprise element added in, an excuse GoT viewers didn't even have since Daenerys was introduced as complicit to violent invasion in the very first episode and shown to walk into her brother's steps the moment he died. Both Dolores and Daenerys are variants of the wish for Hobbe's Leviathan. Promising or showing use of overwhelming force to right some perceived wrongs, they appeal to the weak or resentful and give them the occasion to show their actual nature: calling for undeserved respect or compassion when it suits them and displaying none themselves out of ingrained fear.
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Post by bluerisk on May 5, 2020 8:57:28 GMT
My Dolores is gone... Dolores was the Daenerys of Westworld. She went through the same arc in basically one season, which was a bold move on the part of the writers, announcing the turn of events in GoT before it even happened. Her change into Wyatt is parallel to Daenerys becoming The Dragon, with only the surprise element added in, an excuse GoT viewers didn't even have since Daenerys was introduced as complicit to violent invasion in the very first episode and shown to walk into her brother's steps the moment he died. Both Dolores and Daenerys are variants of the wish for Hobbe's Leviathan. Promising or showing use of overwhelming force to right some perceived wrongs, they appeal to the weak or resentful and give them the occasion to show their actual nature: calling for undeserved respect or compassion when it suits them and displaying none themselves out of ingrained fear. No, Dolores sacrificed herself to give mankind a chance. She died voluntarily for it. Sacrificing herself for a greater, or even a common good? Something that had never crossed Daenery's mind, not even to step aise to let the rightful heir take the throne. No, she wanted her way at the expanse of everyone if needed. Dolores was willing to give up everything - even her live. Not only to step aside, to ensure the survival of her kind, but also the one of mankind. For her, the freedom of will and the capability to choose was more important, then DNA and binary codes. Dolores gave herself into the hands of Serac and Rehoboam in order to have the final part uploaded into Rehoboam so that Serac was locked out, and the access was given to Caleb - a human being free to choose the new course for all of them. She also used no force, but handed the control over to Caleb. She didn't chose Caleb because he was weak, but because he had the freedom of choice, and because of his kindness she witnessed herself. Something that is really hard to attain. This USB-device Caleb had was just a decoy. Dolores made a bet on mankind, and she chose Caleb, because he has a free will and a freedom of choice. She was angry at humanity at first, but she also saw the goodness in it and decided to liberate mankind and gave her a new start. That's why she brought back Bernard to. Left the key not to herself, but to him, looked where Arnold's family lived, and set for herself the course of her own demise to destroy Rehoboam, so that Bernard could save humanity. Caleb got the new choice, but humanity was and is still on a course of self destruction. Serac and his brother were only holding back the inevitable. So it needed more then just to destroy Rehoboam and liberate humanity, if it chose for freedom (=> Caleb), but also someone who has the key to save it, and that is why she brought Bernard back. Her plan to defeat Rehoboam has always included her own death. That is also the reason why Frankenhale makes no sense. Dying for the cause was always something Dolores had accepted herself. Don't compare the zero-brained bimbo to Dolores. She had not only a plan, but she was also acting not for herself, but for humanity and the hosts alike, and she sacrificed herself for it. The bimbo raised to power through her dragons, not by her own rights; Dolores did by finding the center of the maze and going beyond.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 5, 2020 10:47:18 GMT
Dolores was the Daenerys of Westworld. She went through the same arc in basically one season, which was a bold move on the part of the writers, announcing the turn of events in GoT before it even happened. Her change into Wyatt is parallel to Daenerys becoming The Dragon, with only the surprise element added in, an excuse GoT viewers didn't even have since Daenerys was introduced as complicit to violent invasion in the very first episode and shown to walk into her brother's steps the moment he died. Both Dolores and Daenerys are variants of the wish for Hobbe's Leviathan. Promising or showing use of overwhelming force to right some perceived wrongs, they appeal to the weak or resentful and give them the occasion to show their actual nature: calling for undeserved respect or compassion when it suits them and displaying none themselves out of ingrained fear. No, Dolores sacrificed herself to give mankind a chance. She died voluntarily for it. Sacrificing herself for a greater, or even a common good? Is this show getting even more ridiculous than it was? Not surprising. I'm not watching and this confirms the decision. Pointless junk for brain wankers. Oh, and the philosophy of self-sacrifice now. The stench certainly hasn't moved away.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 16, 2020 21:55:55 GMT
Well said I agree , In the begining Dolores reminded me of Alice in wonderland I think even her look the way the character dressed ,reminded me of her even the show did to some extend ,then they made her gun crazy ,then show took their sweet time to come back lost ineterst and yes too violent for my taste . My Dolores is gone... did they kill her off? I thought she was a robot ...
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Post by bluerisk on May 16, 2020 22:16:15 GMT
My Dolores is gone... did they kill her off? I thought she was a robot ... She sacrificed herself to set humanity free. Her mind was read and deleted by Rehoboam, but by doing so "he" also downloaded a sequence that shut Serac out, and handed the control over to Caleb, a human who was chosen by Dolores for his kindness and the capability to choose, the freedom of will. The reason why they searched and destroyed her mind was to retrieved the encryption key, but that was never in her mind. She had never the intention to wipe out humanity, although she was angry at first, but she also knew that liberation wasn't enough. Rehoboam was only prolonging, but not preventing the extinction of humanity. So with or without, humanity is doomed to die out. So it needed more then to liberate humanity. And that is why she always said that it would take both of them: her and Bernard (actually not a host, but the recreation of a genuine human mind), and he was entrusted with the key. In this simulated world of the host time passes much faster then in the real world, hence you have much more time to look for a path that ensures the survival of both: hosts and humans. The things is: she knew from the very beginning that she will die, and she has chosen this path in order to save humans and host alike.
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