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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 6:26:13 GMT
I think Captain America and Daredevil would at least be in the final 4, if not the final 2.
Thor and Vision would be the two unstoppable ones who eliminate each other and keep brawling to the back.
Ant-Man will be eliminated from behind while trying to apologize to someone he eliminated.
Groot will eliminate himself to pursue whoever eliminated Rocket.
Black Widow will eliminate herself to eliminate Captain Marvel after a lengthy fight with Hawkeye.
Surprise entry: Hugh Jackman's Logan!!
Second surprise entry: Bah God, It's KANE, IT'S KANE, IT'S GARRISON KANE ALSO KNOWN AS WEAPON X!
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 25, 2020 7:57:06 GMT
Captain Marvel obviously you sexist.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 17:50:58 GMT
Captain Marvel obviously you sexist. She'll be the Andre the Giant or Yokozuna character the others all try to eliminate together. If she's in the ring and there's less than 8-9 people left it's very likely she'll win. Especially if she enters the Rumble late.
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 25, 2020 18:04:46 GMT
Captain Marvel obviously you sexist. She'll be the Andre the Giant or Yokozuna character the others all try to eliminate together. If she's in the ring and there's less than 8-9 people left it's very likely she'll win. Especially if she enters the Rumble late. Andre the Giant did win a Battle Royale at Wrestlemania 2. But I think they are different to Royal Rumbles.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Mar 25, 2020 18:07:32 GMT
She'll be the Andre the Giant or Yokozuna character the others all try to eliminate together. If she's in the ring and there's less than 8-9 people left it's very likely she'll win. Especially if she enters the Rumble late. Andre the Giant did win a Battle Royale at Wrestlemania 2. But I think they are different to Royal Rumbles. Correct. Battle royal they all start in the ring at the same time. Royal Rumble two people enter and then another dude comes in, usually every one to two minutes.
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Post by scabab on Mar 25, 2020 20:26:09 GMT
It'd probably be someone like Captain Marvel. Scarlet Witch is powerful but she can be linked on the head from behind and it'd take her out.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 25, 2020 22:24:46 GMT
Captain Marvel, Vision, or Doctor Strange.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 23:11:43 GMT
Captain Marvel, Vision, or Doctor Strange. Doctor Strange would have some tricks up his sleeve. When someone's running at him he could whip up a portal that deposits them just outside of the ring. Should work on any character that can't fly.
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Post by dazz on Mar 26, 2020 11:48:02 GMT
It's obviously Groot...or Nebula they are the only ones who could feasibly remove their feet to avoid being eliminated...without feet to hit the ground even if you dump them over the top they don't get eliminated, simples.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 26, 2020 16:12:47 GMT
I've thought about this quite a bit before. To make this fair, I'm only going to consider the heroes. It gets tricky once we include villains like Dormammu or Hela or Ego, etc. I'm also going to consider the strongest versions of each character, which means Bleeding-Edge armor Ironman, Infinity War Thor (not Fat Thor), Black Panther with nano suit, etc.
Anybody below Ironman level won't stand a chance. So Captain America, Hawkeye, Quill, Gamora, Rocket, etc. are all going to lose. Nobody without a good combination of melee and ranged attacks are going to win. Regardless of how tough and strong Hulk is, he's completely helpless if someone just stays out of range and bombards him. Same is true for Drax, Groot, Valkyrie, Giantman, etc. Similarly, if you have ranged attacks but aren't tough and strong in melee then a single hit can take you out. So combatants like Falcon and Wasp are also out.
With all that said, we have the remaining contenders:
Vision Wanda Dr. Strange Thor Captain Marvel Ironman
I've removed Warmachine because he's an inferior version of Ironman anyway. Also removed Loki because he can't hold a candle to Thor.
Next I'm taking out Wanda. As strong as her powers are, she's a glass canon. She doesn't take hits very well and she's far too inconsistent with her powers. In Endgame she was able to almost kill Thanos yet just in Infinity War she was having trouble handling Proxima. Plus every time she takes a direct hit she gets hurt pretty bad.
Next I'm taking out Vision. He's strong, tough, can blast things and can phase... problem is he has a weakness to electricity. We've already seen Hawkeye temporarily render him helpless with a few electric arrows. Pretty sure Ironman can come up with something to incapacitate him and Thor's lightning will definitely mess him up.
Dr. Strange is tricky. When you think about it, Strange doesn't have any attacks strong enough to take out the rest of the heavy hitters. Most of his attacks are meant to ensnare opponents, lock them down, confuse them, but not to knock them out or kill them. Of course, he does have those portals and can bring you to the mirror dimension. So if BFR (battle field removal) is considered a valid win then he can possibly defeat everyone on the list other than Thor. Thor can teleport using the bifrost so he can easily get back to Strange. I personally don't like using BFR as a win since it feels like cheating. Without it, I don't think he can win against Ironman or Captain Marvel either. His attacks just don't have enough oomph.
Next we'll take out Ironman. His Bleeding-edge nano-armor was very powerful, strong enough to go toe to toe with Cull Obsidian, can regenerate itself to an extent, can morph parts of itself, has good ranged attacks.... Ironman at this point is the complete package. Still won't win though, since Captain Marvel and Thor are just a bit too powerful. In the end, IM's suit can get damaged, his energy can get depleted.
So the final round goes to Captain Marvel vs. Thor, and this will be a close fight. Captain Marvel is the faster, more agile flyer and seems to be stronger (being able to throw back those nukes). But Thor seems more durable (taking on that neutron star) and has far more damage output. Also has the edge in fighting experience. In the end I'm giving the win to Thor. First because if he lands a clean hit on CM with Stormbreaker then she's done for (whereas Thor can possible take on multiple hits from CM before going down), secondly because he's faced far more challenges and pushed through - proving he's tougher and has more heart to win. And third because he always has the option to teleport CM somewhere else via Bifrost.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 16:51:00 GMT
I've thought about this quite a bit before. To make this fair, I'm only going to consider the heroes. It gets tricky once we include villains like Dormammu or Hela or Ego, etc. I'm also going to consider the strongest versions of each character, which means Bleeding-Edge armor Ironman, Infinity War Thor (not Fat Thor), Black Panther with nano suit, etc. Anybody below Ironman level won't stand a chance. So Captain America, Hawkeye, Quill, Gamora, Rocket, etc. are all going to lose. Nobody without a good combination of melee and ranged attacks are going to win. Regardless of how tough and strong Hulk is, he's completely helpless if someone just stays out of range and bombards him. Same is true for Drax, Groot, Valkyrie, Giantman, etc. Similarly, if you have ranged attacks but aren't tough and strong in melee then a single hit can take you out. So combatants like Falcon and Wasp are also out. With all that said, we have the remaining contenders: Vision Wanda Dr. Strange Thor Captain Marvel Ironman I've removed Warmachine because he's an inferior version of Ironman anyway. Also removed Loki because he can't hold a candle to Thor. Next I'm taking out Wanda. As strong as her powers are, she's a glass canon. She doesn't take hits very well and she's far too inconsistent with her powers. In Endgame she was able to almost kill Thanos yet just in Infinity War she was having trouble handling Proxima. Plus every time she takes a direct hit she gets hurt pretty bad. Next I'm taking out Vision. He's strong, tough, can blast things and can phase... problem is he has a weakness to electricity. We've already seen Hawkeye temporarily render him helpless with a few electric arrows. Pretty sure Ironman can come up with something to incapacitate him and Thor's lightning will definitely mess him up. Dr. Strange is tricky. When you think about it, Strange doesn't have any attacks strong enough to take out the rest of the heavy hitters. Most of his attacks are meant to ensnare opponents, lock them down, confuse them, but not to knock them out or kill them. Of course, he does have those portals and can bring you to the mirror dimension. So if BFR (battle field removal) is considered a valid win then he can possibly defeat everyone on the list other than Thor. Thor can teleport using the bifrost so he can easily get back to Strange. I personally don't like using BFR as a win since it feels like cheating. Without it, I don't think he can win against Ironman or Captain Marvel either. His attacks just don't have enough oomph. Next we'll take out Ironman. His Bleeding-edge nano-armor was very powerful, strong enough to go toe to toe with Cull Obsidian, can regenerate itself to an extent, can morph parts of itself, has good ranged attacks.... Ironman at this point is the complete package. Still won't win though, since Captain Marvel and Thor are just a bit too powerful. In the end, IM's suit can get damaged, his energy can get depleted. So the final round goes to Captain Marvel vs. Thor, and this will be a close fight. Captain Marvel is the faster, more agile flyer and seems to be stronger (being able to throw back those nukes). But Thor seems more durable (taking on that neutron star) and has far more damage output. Also has the edge in fighting experience. In the end I'm giving the win to Thor. First because if he lands a clean hit on CM with Stormbreaker then she's done for (whereas Thor can possible take on multiple hits from CM before going down), secondly because he's faced far more challenges and pushed through - proving he's tougher and has more heart to win. And third because he always has the option to teleport CM somewhere else via Bifrost. That's the spirit! I definitely like this. Very nice.
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Post by hobowar on Mar 26, 2020 17:15:36 GMT
Black Widow or Hawkeye
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Post by dazz on Mar 26, 2020 18:21:31 GMT
I've thought about this quite a bit before. To make this fair, I'm only going to consider the heroes. It gets tricky once we include villains like Dormammu or Hela or Ego, etc. I'm also going to consider the strongest versions of each character, which means Bleeding-Edge armor Ironman, Infinity War Thor (not Fat Thor), Black Panther with nano suit, etc. Anybody below Ironman level won't stand a chance. So Captain America, Hawkeye, Quill, Gamora, Rocket, etc. are all going to lose. Nobody without a good combination of melee and ranged attacks are going to win. Regardless of how tough and strong Hulk is, he's completely helpless if someone just stays out of range and bombards him. Same is true for Drax, Groot, Valkyrie, Giantman, etc. Similarly, if you have ranged attacks but aren't tough and strong in melee then a single hit can take you out. So combatants like Falcon and Wasp are also out. With all that said, we have the remaining contenders: Vision Wanda Dr. Strange Thor Captain Marvel Ironman I've removed Warmachine because he's an inferior version of Ironman anyway. Also removed Loki because he can't hold a candle to Thor. Next I'm taking out Wanda. As strong as her powers are, she's a glass canon. She doesn't take hits very well and she's far too inconsistent with her powers. In Endgame she was able to almost kill Thanos yet just in Infinity War she was having trouble handling Proxima. Plus every time she takes a direct hit she gets hurt pretty bad. Next I'm taking out Vision. He's strong, tough, can blast things and can phase... problem is he has a weakness to electricity. We've already seen Hawkeye temporarily render him helpless with a few electric arrows. Pretty sure Ironman can come up with something to incapacitate him and Thor's lightning will definitely mess him up. Dr. Strange is tricky. When you think about it, Strange doesn't have any attacks strong enough to take out the rest of the heavy hitters. Most of his attacks are meant to ensnare opponents, lock them down, confuse them, but not to knock them out or kill them. Of course, he does have those portals and can bring you to the mirror dimension. So if BFR (battle field removal) is considered a valid win then he can possibly defeat everyone on the list other than Thor. Thor can teleport using the bifrost so he can easily get back to Strange. I personally don't like using BFR as a win since it feels like cheating. Without it, I don't think he can win against Ironman or Captain Marvel either. His attacks just don't have enough oomph. Next we'll take out Ironman. His Bleeding-edge nano-armor was very powerful, strong enough to go toe to toe with Cull Obsidian, can regenerate itself to an extent, can morph parts of itself, has good ranged attacks.... Ironman at this point is the complete package. Still won't win though, since Captain Marvel and Thor are just a bit too powerful. In the end, IM's suit can get damaged, his energy can get depleted. So the final round goes to Captain Marvel vs. Thor, and this will be a close fight. Captain Marvel is the faster, more agile flyer and seems to be stronger (being able to throw back those nukes). But Thor seems more durable (taking on that neutron star) and has far more damage output. Also has the edge in fighting experience. In the end I'm giving the win to Thor. First because if he lands a clean hit on CM with Stormbreaker then she's done for (whereas Thor can possible take on multiple hits from CM before going down), secondly because he's faced far more challenges and pushed through - proving he's tougher and has more heart to win. And third because he always has the option to teleport CM somewhere else via Bifrost. You do know what a Royal Rumble is yeah? toughness doesn't equate to shit, also ranged attacks mean nothing also given the relatively limited confines of the battle ground, think outside the box my man it aint about power, it's about who doesn't need "legs" Nebula can disconnect hers I bet for the match, and Groot can lop his off and grow them back after, they are near unbeatable in a rumble scenario.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 26, 2020 19:03:43 GMT
I've thought about this quite a bit before. To make this fair, I'm only going to consider the heroes. It gets tricky once we include villains like Dormammu or Hela or Ego, etc. I'm also going to consider the strongest versions of each character, which means Bleeding-Edge armor Ironman, Infinity War Thor (not Fat Thor), Black Panther with nano suit, etc. Anybody below Ironman level won't stand a chance. So Captain America, Hawkeye, Quill, Gamora, Rocket, etc. are all going to lose. Nobody without a good combination of melee and ranged attacks are going to win. Regardless of how tough and strong Hulk is, he's completely helpless if someone just stays out of range and bombards him. Same is true for Drax, Groot, Valkyrie, Giantman, etc. Similarly, if you have ranged attacks but aren't tough and strong in melee then a single hit can take you out. So combatants like Falcon and Wasp are also out. With all that said, we have the remaining contenders: Vision Wanda Dr. Strange Thor Captain Marvel Ironman I've removed Warmachine because he's an inferior version of Ironman anyway. Also removed Loki because he can't hold a candle to Thor. Next I'm taking out Wanda. As strong as her powers are, she's a glass canon. She doesn't take hits very well and she's far too inconsistent with her powers. In Endgame she was able to almost kill Thanos yet just in Infinity War she was having trouble handling Proxima. Plus every time she takes a direct hit she gets hurt pretty bad. Next I'm taking out Vision. He's strong, tough, can blast things and can phase... problem is he has a weakness to electricity. We've already seen Hawkeye temporarily render him helpless with a few electric arrows. Pretty sure Ironman can come up with something to incapacitate him and Thor's lightning will definitely mess him up. Dr. Strange is tricky. When you think about it, Strange doesn't have any attacks strong enough to take out the rest of the heavy hitters. Most of his attacks are meant to ensnare opponents, lock them down, confuse them, but not to knock them out or kill them. Of course, he does have those portals and can bring you to the mirror dimension. So if BFR (battle field removal) is considered a valid win then he can possibly defeat everyone on the list other than Thor. Thor can teleport using the bifrost so he can easily get back to Strange. I personally don't like using BFR as a win since it feels like cheating. Without it, I don't think he can win against Ironman or Captain Marvel either. His attacks just don't have enough oomph. Next we'll take out Ironman. His Bleeding-edge nano-armor was very powerful, strong enough to go toe to toe with Cull Obsidian, can regenerate itself to an extent, can morph parts of itself, has good ranged attacks.... Ironman at this point is the complete package. Still won't win though, since Captain Marvel and Thor are just a bit too powerful. In the end, IM's suit can get damaged, his energy can get depleted. So the final round goes to Captain Marvel vs. Thor, and this will be a close fight. Captain Marvel is the faster, more agile flyer and seems to be stronger (being able to throw back those nukes). But Thor seems more durable (taking on that neutron star) and has far more damage output. Also has the edge in fighting experience. In the end I'm giving the win to Thor. First because if he lands a clean hit on CM with Stormbreaker then she's done for (whereas Thor can possible take on multiple hits from CM before going down), secondly because he's faced far more challenges and pushed through - proving he's tougher and has more heart to win. And third because he always has the option to teleport CM somewhere else via Bifrost. You do know what a Royal Rumble is yeah? toughness doesn't equate to shit, also ranged attacks mean nothing also given the relatively limited confines of the battle ground, think outside the box my man it aint about power, it's about who doesn't need "legs" Nebula can disconnect hers I bet for the match, and Groot can lop his off and grow them back after, they are near unbeatable in a rumble scenario. Depends which context we're taking "royal rumble". A "royal rumble" as used in common terms (especially in comic/movie versus matches) is simply a group fight between combatants where everyone fights for himself and the last man standing wins. That's the context which I based my answer on. If you're talking about a WWE-style Royal Rumble then it's not going to work, since there are guys that can simply fly and float around the place with their feet never touching the ground. Even if it's a wrestling royal rumble, some of the flyers like Thor or Captain Marvel can simply levitate above the ring (not breaking any rules) then start spamming their firepower on the ring. Toughness obviously comes into play there right? Or are you thinking that this is a pure hand to hand match?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 19:26:30 GMT
You do know what a Royal Rumble is yeah? toughness doesn't equate to shit, also ranged attacks mean nothing also given the relatively limited confines of the battle ground, think outside the box my man it aint about power, it's about who doesn't need "legs" Nebula can disconnect hers I bet for the match, and Groot can lop his off and grow them back after, they are near unbeatable in a rumble scenario. Depends which context we're taking "royal rumble". A "royal rumble" in ancient times was a group fight between combatants where everyone fought for himself and the last man standing wins. That's the context which I based my answer on. If you're talking about a WWE-style Royal Rumble then it's not going to work, since there are guys that can simply fly and float around the place with their feet never touching the ground. It can be worked around if you're determined enough. Like Doctor Strange in Ragnarok. Suppose he does what he did to Loki in a WWE Royal Rumble setting where he leaves them in a state of perpetual falling. He could release them without warning and they'd only have a few seconds to realize they're falling and stop themselves.
Some might. It depends on a combination how fast their reflexes are and where their powers come from. Iron Man can fly but if fell out of a portal just outside the ring at top rope level, I don't know if those 1-3 seconds are enough to avoid hitting the ground. Scarlet Witch might hit the ground if it takes longer to cast a spell than it does to fall.
Captain Marvel would probably stop herself from mid-air an inch from the ground, nose to nose. Vision wouldn't fall for it; he'd exit the portal gracefully and float back into the ring. Spiderman doesn't fly but I think he'd react quickly enough to grab a rope and fling himself back in the ring.
In theory if they're just hovering around the ring, you're not eliminating anybody either. It's like the equivalent of hiding under the ring the whole time. It's not the worst strategy but they'll lose the crowd.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 26, 2020 19:42:48 GMT
Depends which context we're taking "royal rumble". A "royal rumble" in ancient times was a group fight between combatants where everyone fought for himself and the last man standing wins. That's the context which I based my answer on. If you're talking about a WWE-style Royal Rumble then it's not going to work, since there are guys that can simply fly and float around the place with their feet never touching the ground. It can be worked around if you're determined enough. Like Doctor Strange in Ragnarok. Suppose he does what he did to Loki in a WWE Royal Rumble setting where he leaves them in a state of perpetual falling. He could release them without warning and they'd only have a few seconds to realize they're falling and stop themselves.
Some might. It depends on a combination how fast their reflexes are and where their powers come from. Iron Man can fly but if fell out of a portal just outside the ring at top rope level, I don't know if those 1-3 seconds are enough to avoid hitting the ground. Scarlet Witch might hit the ground if it takes longer to cast a spell than it does to fall.
Captain Marvel would probably stop herself from mid-air an inch from the ground, nose to nose. Vision wouldn't fall for it; he'd exit the portal gracefully and float back into the ring. Spiderman doesn't fly but I think he'd react quickly enough to grab a rope and fling himself back in the ring.
In theory if they're just hovering around the ring, you're not eliminating anybody either. It's like the equivalent of hiding under the ring the whole time. It's not the worst strategy but they'll lose the crowd.
You can't really "fall through a portal" if you're already flying. Loki fell from a portal because he doesn't fly. If Strange threw a portal at Captain Marvel when she's already flying then she'll still be flying wherever the portal deposits her. And like I said, if the flyers just fly around the ring and then start using ranged attacks on those inside the ring then chances are those in the ring get blasted out of it with very little risk to the flyers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 20:13:17 GMT
It can be worked around if you're determined enough. Like Doctor Strange in Ragnarok. Suppose he does what he did to Loki in a WWE Royal Rumble setting where he leaves them in a state of perpetual falling. He could release them without warning and they'd only have a few seconds to realize they're falling and stop themselves.
Some might. It depends on a combination how fast their reflexes are and where their powers come from. Iron Man can fly but if fell out of a portal just outside the ring at top rope level, I don't know if those 1-3 seconds are enough to avoid hitting the ground. Scarlet Witch might hit the ground if it takes longer to cast a spell than it does to fall.
Captain Marvel would probably stop herself from mid-air an inch from the ground, nose to nose. Vision wouldn't fall for it; he'd exit the portal gracefully and float back into the ring. Spiderman doesn't fly but I think he'd react quickly enough to grab a rope and fling himself back in the ring.
In theory if they're just hovering around the ring, you're not eliminating anybody either. It's like the equivalent of hiding under the ring the whole time. It's not the worst strategy but they'll lose the crowd.
You can't really "fall through a portal" if you're already flying. Loki fell from a portal because he doesn't fly. If Strange threw a portal at Captain Marvel when she's already flying then she'll still be flying wherever the portal deposits her. And like I said, if the flyers just fly around the ring and then start using ranged attacks on those inside the ring then chances are those in the ring get blasted out of it with very little risk to the flyers. That's true.
There's a couple things you can do. Either they can reason it takes a flyer to take down a flyer. Or they can pile up on them to get them out. That would probably require a sacrifice from someone. Like if you throw Captain Marvel over the top rope and her instincts kick in and stops herself from falling, that's when Ant-Man ( or even Cap) jumps on her in that split second to take her down with them. They'll eliminate themselves but remove a huge threat in the process.
I'm working on the assumption they can't win from in the air. If it's down to someone who flies and say, Hulk, their ranged attacks from the air might not cut it. They'll have to come down.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 26, 2020 23:43:26 GMT
You can't really "fall through a portal" if you're already flying. Loki fell from a portal because he doesn't fly. If Strange threw a portal at Captain Marvel when she's already flying then she'll still be flying wherever the portal deposits her. And like I said, if the flyers just fly around the ring and then start using ranged attacks on those inside the ring then chances are those in the ring get blasted out of it with very little risk to the flyers. That's true.
There's a couple things you can do. Either they can reason it takes a flyer to take down a flyer. Or they can pile up on them to get them out. That would probably require a sacrifice from someone. Like if you throw Captain Marvel over the top rope and her instincts kick in and stops herself from falling, that's when Ant-Man ( or even Cap) jumps on her in that split second to take her down with them. They'll eliminate themselves but remove a huge threat in the process.
I'm working on the assumption they can't win from in the air. If it's down to someone who flies and say, Hulk, their ranged attacks from the air might not cut it. They'll have to come down.
Ok, let me revise my answer then to specifically fit a WWE Royal Rumble. I will go further and remove flying and teleporting/portal abilities because that's just cheating and will make this a boring fight. Let's say the ring size is also adjusted so we can compensate all combatants and make it indestructible. First, we know that there will automatically be factions. 1. Cap, Bucky, Falcon, Sharon Rogers 2. Black Panther, Shuri, Okoye and M'Baku (can probably join group 1 to form a bigger group) 3. Black Widow and Hawkeye (can also possibly join group 1) 4. Vision and Wanda 5. Ironman, Warmachine, Spiderman, Pepper Potts 6. Thor, Hulk, Loki, Valkyrie + any of the other Asgardians like the Warriors 3 and Sif) 7. Quill, Gamora, Drax, Groot, Rocket, Mantis, Nebula 8. Dr. Strange, Ancient One, Wong 9. Antman and Wasp (might be convinced to join group #1) 10. Captain Marvel (doesn't seem to be friends with enough people to group up) Group 1 seems like they'd be the most numerous, especially when the merge with other groups. Problem is they're also the weakest, and if Thor does even one of his lightning-charged ground slams then pretty much all of them are eliminated. In fact, because flying and portals are taken out, I'd say anyone who doesn't have power jumping abilities or shielding abilities will immediately be eliminated with one or two of Thor's ground slams. That means groups 1-3 are immediately eliminated. Probably even Antman and Wasp. Without flight, a lightning slam like that would either throw Antman and Wasp out of the ring or outright electrocute them. Antman has a chance if he goes Giantman but there are far too many people here with long range attacks that can easily topple him. Ironman's team has some pretty serious firepower and strength, problem is without flight they're actually pretty lumbering on the ground. I don't think they have enough mobility to keep up with the other combatants and they'll eventually get thrown out of the ring. Only Spiderman survives from that team. The GoTG also won't last that long. They're stronger than the human teams (1-3) but they're not strong enough to keep up with the Revengers. They get taken out. So basically the factions remaining will be: WandaVision, the Revengers, the Sorcerers, Captain Marvel and Spiderman. Spiderman is tough to take out, what with his heightened agility and reflexes plus his webslinging. Problem is he's now alone, and he won't be able to do much when people team-up against him. Ditto for Captain Marvel. As strong as she is (and her energy absorption abilities would come in really handy), she's alone in this match and the'll get overpowered and thrown out. Now we're down to WandaVision, the Sorcerers and the Revengers. If we take out teleporting and creation of portals (and the mirror dimension) then the Sorcerers doesn't have the weapons to get rid of the others. Their shields are very strong but they lack offensive attacks to throw out the others. They'll last for a bit but eventually they either get knocked out or thrown out. Wanda will be a real pain in the ass in this fight, as her TK will allow her to throw people around and even float herself back into the ring. But like I said previously, she's still a glass canon and if she's not on-point with her shields during the entire fight then she can easily get punched or thrown out of the ring. Vision could have been a winner. He just stays in phase mode and let everyone duke it out till the end. Problem again is Thor can electrocute him. So he's gone as well. Which means that the Revengers are the last group remaining. Even if the other teams gang up on them right at the very start, I doubt they have enough damage output to kick them out of the ring. So now the Revengers take on each other. Hulk gets eliminated first. He's not as quick as the others, not as skilled and definitely not as smart. Valkyrie goes out next. She's more skilled than Loki but doesn't have his magic or illusions. Those illusions will be a pain to deal with in this scenario. Of course, once it's just Loki and Thor, Thor can just keep spamming his lightning. Doesn't matter how many illusions Loki makes, he'll eventually get hit and will be sent flying. So in the end, here's your winner: Edit: Actually, I've changed my mind. Loki will probably backstab Thor just as they're throwing out Valkyrie or Hulk. So Loki for the win.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 2:04:33 GMT
That's true.
There's a couple things you can do. Either they can reason it takes a flyer to take down a flyer. Or they can pile up on them to get them out. That would probably require a sacrifice from someone. Like if you throw Captain Marvel over the top rope and her instincts kick in and stops herself from falling, that's when Ant-Man ( or even Cap) jumps on her in that split second to take her down with them. They'll eliminate themselves but remove a huge threat in the process.
I'm working on the assumption they can't win from in the air. If it's down to someone who flies and say, Hulk, their ranged attacks from the air might not cut it. They'll have to come down.
Ok, let me revise my answer then to specifically fit a WWE Royal Rumble. I will go further and remove flying and teleporting/portal abilities because that's just cheating and will make this a boring fight. Let's say the ring size is also adjusted so we can compensate all combatants and make it indestructible. First, we know that there will automatically be factions. 1. Cap, Bucky, Falcon, Sharon Rogers 2. Black Panther, Shuri, Okoye and M'Baku (can probably join group 1 to form a bigger group) 3. Black Widow and Hawkeye (can also possibly join group 1) 4. Vision and Wanda 5. Ironman, Warmachine, Spiderman, Pepper Potts 6. Thor, Hulk, Loki, Valkyrie + any of the other Asgardians like the Warriors 3 and Sif) 7. Quill, Gamora, Drax, Groot, Rocket, Mantis, Nebula 8. Dr. Strange, Ancient One, Wong 9. Antman and Wasp (might be convinced to join group #1) 10. Captain Marvel (doesn't seem to be friends with enough people to group up) Group 1 seems like they'd be the most numerous, especially when the merge with other groups. Problem is they're also the weakest, and if Thor does even one of his lightning-charged ground slams then pretty much all of them are eliminated. In fact, because flying and portals are taken out, I'd say anyone who doesn't have power jumping abilities or shielding abilities will immediately be eliminated with one or two of Thor's ground slams. That means groups 1-3 are immediately eliminated. Probably even Antman and Wasp. Without flight, a lightning slam like that would either throw Antman and Wasp out of the ring or outright electrocute them. Antman has a chance if he goes Giantman but there are far too many people here with long range attacks that can easily topple him. Ironman's team has some pretty serious firepower and strength, problem is without flight they're actually pretty lumbering on the ground. I don't think they have enough mobility to keep up with the other combatants and they'll eventually get thrown out of the ring. Only Spiderman survives from that team. The GoTG also won't last that long. They're stronger than the human teams (1-3) but they're not strong enough to keep up with the Revengers. They get taken out. So basically the factions remaining will be: WandaVision, the Revengers, the Sorcerers, Captain Marvel and Spiderman. Spiderman is tough to take out, what with his heightened agility and reflexes plus his webslinging. Problem is he's now alone, and he won't be able to do much when people team-up against him. Ditto for Captain Marvel. As strong as she is (and her energy absorption abilities would come in really handy), she's alone in this match and the'll get overpowered and thrown out. Now we're down to WandaVision, the Sorcerers and the Revengers. If we take out teleporting and creation of portals (and the mirror dimension) then the Sorcerers doesn't have the weapons to get rid of the others. Their shields are very strong but they lack offensive attacks to throw out the others. They'll last for a bit but eventually they either get knocked out or thrown out. Wanda will be a real pain in the ass in this fight, as her TK will allow her to throw people around and even float herself back into the ring. But like I said previously, she's still a glass canon and if she's not on-point with her shields during the entire fight then she can easily get punched or thrown out of the ring. Vision could have been a winner. He just stays in phase mode and let everyone duke it out till the end. Problem again is Thor can electrocute him. So he's gone as well. Which means that the Revengers are the last group remaining. Even if the other teams gang up on them right at the very start, I doubt they have enough damage output to kick them out of the ring. So now the Revengers take on each other. Hulk gets eliminated first. He's not as quick as the others, not as skilled and definitely not as smart. Valkyrie goes out next. She's more skilled than Loki but doesn't have his magic or illusions. Those illusions will be a pain to deal with in this scenario. Of course, once it's just Loki and Thor, Thor can just keep spamming his lightning. Doesn't matter how many illusions Loki makes, he'll eventually get hit and will be sent flying. So in the end, here's your winner: Edit: Actually, I've changed my mind. Loki will probably backstab Thor just as they're throwing out Valkyrie or Hulk. So Loki for the win. I like both your answers. Consequently I also wonder what MCU characters would use for ring entrance music sometimes.
Terrific stuff. The first time I read it the answer was Thor. Now that I see Loki it reminds me of a finish of a certain battle royal with a similar 2 on 1. I guess there's just no such thing as counting out Loki. The man's too good.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 27, 2020 2:49:01 GMT
Ok, let me revise my answer then to specifically fit a WWE Royal Rumble. I will go further and remove flying and teleporting/portal abilities because that's just cheating and will make this a boring fight. Let's say the ring size is also adjusted so we can compensate all combatants and make it indestructible. First, we know that there will automatically be factions. 1. Cap, Bucky, Falcon, Sharon Rogers 2. Black Panther, Shuri, Okoye and M'Baku (can probably join group 1 to form a bigger group) 3. Black Widow and Hawkeye (can also possibly join group 1) 4. Vision and Wanda 5. Ironman, Warmachine, Spiderman, Pepper Potts 6. Thor, Hulk, Loki, Valkyrie + any of the other Asgardians like the Warriors 3 and Sif) 7. Quill, Gamora, Drax, Groot, Rocket, Mantis, Nebula 8. Dr. Strange, Ancient One, Wong 9. Antman and Wasp (might be convinced to join group #1) 10. Captain Marvel (doesn't seem to be friends with enough people to group up) Group 1 seems like they'd be the most numerous, especially when the merge with other groups. Problem is they're also the weakest, and if Thor does even one of his lightning-charged ground slams then pretty much all of them are eliminated. In fact, because flying and portals are taken out, I'd say anyone who doesn't have power jumping abilities or shielding abilities will immediately be eliminated with one or two of Thor's ground slams. That means groups 1-3 are immediately eliminated. Probably even Antman and Wasp. Without flight, a lightning slam like that would either throw Antman and Wasp out of the ring or outright electrocute them. Antman has a chance if he goes Giantman but there are far too many people here with long range attacks that can easily topple him. Ironman's team has some pretty serious firepower and strength, problem is without flight they're actually pretty lumbering on the ground. I don't think they have enough mobility to keep up with the other combatants and they'll eventually get thrown out of the ring. Only Spiderman survives from that team. The GoTG also won't last that long. They're stronger than the human teams (1-3) but they're not strong enough to keep up with the Revengers. They get taken out. So basically the factions remaining will be: WandaVision, the Revengers, the Sorcerers, Captain Marvel and Spiderman. Spiderman is tough to take out, what with his heightened agility and reflexes plus his webslinging. Problem is he's now alone, and he won't be able to do much when people team-up against him. Ditto for Captain Marvel. As strong as she is (and her energy absorption abilities would come in really handy), she's alone in this match and the'll get overpowered and thrown out. Now we're down to WandaVision, the Sorcerers and the Revengers. If we take out teleporting and creation of portals (and the mirror dimension) then the Sorcerers doesn't have the weapons to get rid of the others. Their shields are very strong but they lack offensive attacks to throw out the others. They'll last for a bit but eventually they either get knocked out or thrown out. Wanda will be a real pain in the ass in this fight, as her TK will allow her to throw people around and even float herself back into the ring. But like I said previously, she's still a glass canon and if she's not on-point with her shields during the entire fight then she can easily get punched or thrown out of the ring. Vision could have been a winner. He just stays in phase mode and let everyone duke it out till the end. Problem again is Thor can electrocute him. So he's gone as well. Which means that the Revengers are the last group remaining. Even if the other teams gang up on them right at the very start, I doubt they have enough damage output to kick them out of the ring. So now the Revengers take on each other. Hulk gets eliminated first. He's not as quick as the others, not as skilled and definitely not as smart. Valkyrie goes out next. She's more skilled than Loki but doesn't have his magic or illusions. Those illusions will be a pain to deal with in this scenario. Of course, once it's just Loki and Thor, Thor can just keep spamming his lightning. Doesn't matter how many illusions Loki makes, he'll eventually get hit and will be sent flying. So in the end, here's your winner: Edit: Actually, I've changed my mind. Loki will probably backstab Thor just as they're throwing out Valkyrie or Hulk. So Loki for the win. I like both your answers. Consequently I also wonder what MCU characters would use for ring entrance music sometimes.
Terrific stuff. The first time I read it the answer was Thor. Now that I see Loki it reminds me of a finish of a certain battle royal with a similar 2 on 1. I guess there's just no such thing as counting out Loki. The man's too good.
Thor is the definite favorite. He has the strength, he has the skill, he has the greatest damage output and AOE's, and he's the leader of the strongest posse. The only reason he might lose is if someone from his own posse betrays him, which is why Loki has a shot. We know Loki has done it successfully before. That said, maybe Thor is too smart to get fooled now. Didn't work last time Loki tried it.
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