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Post by Sarge on Mar 26, 2020 4:51:58 GMT
Kim is a Mary Sue attracted to the bad boy, she will never be a Saul Goodman, it's not in her nature. She works in BCS as a contrast to Jimmy but wouldn't be interesting on her own.
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Post by Honolulu on Mar 26, 2020 8:33:05 GMT
Do you think they might spin-off Kim to her own series? Two episodes have alluded to her past as coming from a rough background similar to Jimmy’s and she finally succumbs to being a shyster lawyer herself? I kinda hope so. Of course, still a few episodes left. I can see her emerging from the Heisenberg era to become a famous, sensationalist attorney whom “Gene” turns to at the end of BCL. I don't like Kim enough to see an entire spin-off series for that character. |
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Post by davidmt on Apr 3, 2020 2:23:40 GMT
Wexler of course was not in Breaking Bad, and of course she's not mentioned in any of the flash forward episodes of BCS, so it will be interesting to learn what became of her, in fact it would be interesting to see hat becomes of all of the BB and BCS characters, I doubt there's enough there for a movie like El Camino, but perhaps an episode of BCS.
For that matter I wonder how Saul will end, we know that he's blown in his new life.
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Post by mykel on Apr 3, 2020 3:26:31 GMT
I doubt we'll see a spin-off but I think she will show up at some point in the future with 'Gene'.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 3, 2020 13:58:40 GMT
I think she will be a tragic character like Hank as will Tuco[sp]
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Post by davidmt on Apr 4, 2020 17:22:09 GMT
I tend to agree, there's not enough of the Kim Wexler character for a spin off, or even a one off movie, but learning the long term Fates of Howard Hamlin, Kim Wexler, Mike's daughter in law and granddaughter, and for that matter Skyler and Hank JR, and Marie would be worthwhile.
As for Kim herself, I assume if she will have been murdered by the cartel I think Jimmy's story would have unfolded in a different fashion, one disturbing possibility is, did Jimmy kill her at some point? A more positive outcome would be if she returned to HHM as a partner and eventually becoming managing partner, or if she founds her own firm perhaps buying out a failing HHM.
I would like to see some form of happy endings for Stacey and Marie, as in the BB and BCS universe, they are the most innocent.
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Post by poelzig on Apr 8, 2020 5:36:29 GMT
I tend to agree, there's not enough of the Kim Wexler character for a spin off, or even a one off movie, but learning the long term Fates of Howard Hamlin, Kim Wexler, Mike's daughter in law and granddaughter, and for that matter Skyler and Hank JR, and Marie would be worthwhile. As for Kim herself, I assume if she will have been murdered by the cartel I think Jimmy's story would have unfolded in a different fashion, one disturbing possibility is, did Jimmy kill her at some point? A more positive outcome would be if she returned to HHM as a partner and eventually becoming managing partner, or if she founds her own firm perhaps buying out a failing HHM. I would like to see some form of happy endings for Stacey and Marie, as in the BB and BCS universe, they are the most innocent. Stacey although not innocent can be forgiven for what seemed at times to be emotional manipulation of Mike because she wanted her child and herself to live more comfortably. Mike is an old guy but she had no problem volunteering him to pour concrete and do manual labor for a church. They have made her character more sympathetic in recent seasons so she's more likable but still not innocent. Marie however is not only far from innocent, she's a criminal and a terrible person in general. She committed numerous felony thefts and never showed regret or apologized and thanks to her hypocritical douchebag cop husband was never punished. She was even ready to let her sister be charged with her crimes. She also attempted to steal her niece and nephew (the baby girl in particular) when she saw an opportunity to capitalize off Walt and Skyler having marital issues. Hank at least did the right thing that time and I won't even mention Marie's personality issues and cruel streak but innocent people don't take pleasure in making bad situations worse. I know people love to make excuses for Hank and Marie but to call either of them innocent is ridiculous.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 8, 2020 16:18:11 GMT
Do you think they might spin-off Kim to her own series? Two episodes have alluded to her past as coming from a rough background similar to Jimmy’s and she finally succumbs to being a shyster lawyer herself? I kinda hope so. Of course, still a few episodes left. I can see her emerging from the Heisenberg era to become a famous, sensationalist attorney whom “Gene” turns to at the end of BCL. I'd rather a Nacho spinoff possibly.
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Post by Nora on Apr 9, 2020 20:04:17 GMT
Kim is a Mary Sue attracted to the bad boy, she will never be a Saul Goodman, it's not in her nature. She works in BCS as a contrast to Jimmy but wouldn't be interesting on her own. kim is not a Mary Sue. She doesnt have any unreasonable success isnt the best at everything, she has flaws (including moral ones) and failures. she is a complex character. i would be interested in learning more about her, yes. |
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Post by Nora on Apr 9, 2020 20:08:06 GMT
I think she will be a tragic character like Hank as will Tuco[sp] must be, thats the only outcome that makes sense at this point in Gilighans universe. |
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Post by Nora on Apr 9, 2020 20:08:48 GMT
I doubt we'll see a spin-off but I think she will show up at some point in the future with 'Gene'. i wish you were right i really do, however i think she will be dead before BB time... |
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Post by Nora on Apr 9, 2020 20:14:49 GMT
Do you think they might spin-off Kim to her own series? Two episodes have alluded to her past as coming from a rough background similar to Jimmy’s and she finally succumbs to being a shyster lawyer herself? I kinda hope so. Of course, still a few episodes left. I can see her emerging from the Heisenberg era to become a famous, sensationalist attorney whom “Gene” turns to at the end of BCL. I would like that yes and I havent seen such complex and strong yet not overtly feminist/perfect female character in a long time. tbh she is the only female character in the entire bb and bcs universe that i actually like and respect. there really was nobody else so far. 1. skyler - horrible - nag who doesnt respect her husband, cheats on him and is the direct cause of many bad things 2. marie - horrible - thief with a cruel streak 3. jane - horrible - gave Jesse heroin 4. lydia - horrible - actual psychopat, uptight and neurotic 5. andrea - least horrible so far, but still a junkie so no. So Kim really outshines them all, even though she too is a criminal. Sadly I think she will die. not by the hands of the cartel perhaps but will die before BB time. would i like another outcome better? yes. do i think she has the smarts and drive and skills to be a top dog? absolutely. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 9, 2020 21:52:11 GMT
Do you think they might spin-off Kim to her own series? Two episodes have alluded to her past as coming from a rough background similar to Jimmy’s and she finally succumbs to being a shyster lawyer herself? I kinda hope so. Of course, still a few episodes left. I can see her emerging from the Heisenberg era to become a famous, sensationalist attorney whom “Gene” turns to at the end of BCL. I would like that yes and I havent seen such complex and strong yet not overtly feminist/perfect female character in a long time. tbh she is the only female character in the entire bb and bcs universe that i actually like and respect. there really was nobody else so far. 1. skyler - horrible - nag who doesnt respect her husband, cheats on him and is the direct cause of many bad things 2. marie - horrible - thief with a cruel streak 3. jane - horrible - gave Jesse heroin 4. lydia - horrible - actual psychopat, uptight and neurotic 5. andrea - least horrible so far, but still a junkie so no. So Kim really outshines them all, even though she too is a criminal. Sadly I think she will die. not by the hands of the cartel perhaps but will die before BB time. would i like another outcome better? yes. do i think she has the smarts and drive and skills to be a top dog? absolutely. Before I watched Breaking Bad I kept seeing stuff about how horrible Skyler was so I assumed she sucked. However she doesn’t. She’s a victim of people sympathizing with the bad guy. Walter is fifty gabillion times worse than she ever would be and her biggest mistake was supporting him after learning the truth about what a lowlife he was. |
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Post by Nora on Apr 9, 2020 22:02:14 GMT
I would like that yes and I havent seen such complex and strong yet not overtly feminist/perfect female character in a long time. tbh she is the only female character in the entire bb and bcs universe that i actually like and respect. there really was nobody else so far. 1. skyler - horrible - nag who doesnt respect her husband, cheats on him and is the direct cause of many bad things 2. marie - horrible - thief with a cruel streak 3. jane - horrible - gave Jesse heroin 4. lydia - horrible - actual psychopat, uptight and neurotic 5. andrea - least horrible so far, but still a junkie so no. So Kim really outshines them all, even though she too is a criminal. Sadly I think she will die. not by the hands of the cartel perhaps but will die before BB time. would i like another outcome better? yes. do i think she has the smarts and drive and skills to be a top dog? absolutely. Before I watched Breaking Bad I kept seeing stuff about how horrible Skyler was so I assumed she sucked. However she doesn’t. She’s a victim of people sympathizing with the bad guy. Walter is fifty gabillion times worse than she ever would be and her biggest mistake was supporting him after learning the truth about what a lowlife he was. I completely agree with you that walt is a worse human being. And I was not always rooting for Walt, especially toward the later season. But Skyler is a bad human being also. The birthday handjob is in the first episode after all  All jokes aside, she escalated things too much, cheated, was willing to cook books (hence becoming a criminal) at that point still under no duress. She became a victim of Walt I agree, but she was very unsympathetic to begin with. And really was up his ass too much. I mean you spend 20 years with the guy and freak out when he doesnt come home for a few hours or doesnt report everything to you right away/? Controlling woman with poor judgement and weak morals.
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Post by Power Ranger on Apr 12, 2020 12:17:32 GMT
I haven’t seen series 5 yet but I think her fate will be a tragic one. Not as bad as Chuck’s, but I think she’ll get busted and it will haunt Jimmy who corrupted her.
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Post by Nora on Apr 13, 2020 0:48:15 GMT
I haven’t seen series 5 yet but I think her fate will be a tragic one. Not as bad as Chuck’s, but I think she’ll get busted and it will haunt Jimmy who corrupted her. it must be, right? What else would it be. It must be something that completes his journey or rather metamorphoses.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 13, 2020 3:06:51 GMT
Do you think they might spin-off Kim to her own series? Two episodes have alluded to her past as coming from a rough background similar to Jimmy’s and she finally succumbs to being a shyster lawyer herself? I kinda hope so. Of course, still a few episodes left. I can see her emerging from the Heisenberg era to become a famous, sensationalist attorney whom “Gene” turns to at the end of BCL. Kim may very well be my favorite character that would be until I remember Mike and Nacho also exist as well.
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Post by Sarge on Apr 13, 2020 7:13:10 GMT
A likely scenario is Jimmy dumps Kim to protect her from the cartel; alternately she gets disbarred for one of her schemes with Jimmy and leaves him.
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Post by Nora on Apr 13, 2020 16:39:08 GMT
A likely scenario is Jimmy dumps Kim to protect her from the cartel; alternately she gets disbarred for one of her schemes with Jimmy and leaves him. yeah both possible. especially since if Kim dies, it cannot be due to the cartel, as that would likely not move Jimmy in the right direciton (being a friend of the cartel in BB). So my guess is she dies of something completely unconnected like a random car crash or ilness, or she lives on but they separate, would be kinda nice of Jimmy to do it to protect her yes, or she leaves him because of it and then we could hope that Gene will one day find her…to tell her she was right. 
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Post by davidmt on Apr 14, 2020 23:13:02 GMT
After the most recent episode, I doubt any type of positive ending will happen for Kim, I could be wrong, after all look at Pinkman at the end of El Camino, but when you think about Mike's lecture to Jimmy, I suspect that was a foreshadowing of Kim's fate, when she lied to Lalo she went all in down Saul's road, and I doubt there will be an exit lane for her.
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