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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 1, 2020 11:09:11 GMT
Does the highlighting help? And what is that number? It isn't your "vivid imagination" (putting it politely) that bothers me. It is that you apparently can't tell the difference between it and reality. By the way, dark matter and the Higgs boson are very highly speculative theories with a rather tenuous connection to any data.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Apr 2, 2020 8:31:09 GMT
One could easily ask you the same question since you appear to know all the possibilities of what could and couldn't have happened ~4 billion years ago during Earth's Archean eon when the environment was radically different than what it is now. Apparently, even though scientists are not able to recreate the conditions of Earth ~4 billion years ago in a lab (much less replicate the number of trials that such an Earth would've had), you can say conclusively what could and couldn't have happened there. No, I wasn't there, but anyone can find out about it in the library. And how many books on abiogenesis have you checked out?
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Apr 2, 2020 8:50:00 GMT
By the way, dark matter and the Higgs boson are very highly speculative theories with a rather tenuous connection to any data. Unsurprisingly, this is quite wrong. Dark matter is whatever that can account for the discrepancy between the gravitational effects scientists observe and what they should/would be given the matter they can account for. With dark matter, either our theories of gravity are wrong (which is possible; though it'd be hard to explain why they work so well), or there's something else there that we can't see/detect; those are the options. The Higgs boson's existence was confirmed via the Large Hadron Collider at CERN in 2012. Not only that, but it was independently discovered by two independent teams and experiments and tests were done over the course of the next year in order to confirm all the predictions made about the Higgs boson, and it matched. Of course, given your attitude of "if I can't do it in my basement it's not science and trusting what scientists say about their fields of expertise is faith" I expect this will fall on deaf ears.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 2, 2020 9:50:26 GMT
No, I wasn't there, but anyone can find out about it in the library. And how many books on abiogenesis have you checked out? If no one knows how many there are, what difference would that make? If you find one that disagrees with me please do let me know.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 2, 2020 10:12:59 GMT
Eva Yojimbo said [ full text here] < clips >
1) Unsurprisingly, this [> dark matter and Higg's boson are highly speculative theories] is quite wrong. 2) The Higgs boson's ... was independently discovered by two independent teams 3) Of course, given your attitude of "if I can't do it in my basement it's not science and trusting what scientists say about their fields of expertise is faith" I expect this will fall on deaf ears. 1) Thank you for your opinion, but it is just an opinion. I know how to do geometric, trigonometric and other proofs. I won a state wide competition in trigonometry. I do know how to go step by step from one observation to the logical next. You are obviously skipping quite many steps here. Time constraints? 2) Independent teams received revelation from a god. 3) Congratulations you got something right. Mostly that is, you left out how pleased I would be to receive an invitation to your demonstrations of anything. Don't stop. It's fun watching you do the same things "theists" do but with absolutely no clue it is the same thing.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Apr 3, 2020 3:47:12 GMT
And how many books on abiogenesis have you checked out? If no one knows how many there are, what difference would that make? If you find one that disagrees with me please do let me know. One can go to the Wiki page on abiogenesis and check the references. Many are from books, many are from peer-reviewed papers. There's 50 references just in the intro. Plenty to read.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Apr 3, 2020 3:55:38 GMT
Eva Yojimbo said [ full text here] < clips >
1) Unsurprisingly, this [> dark matter and Higg's boson are highly speculative theories] is quite wrong. 2) The Higgs boson's ... was independently discovered by two independent teams 3) Of course, given your attitude of "if I can't do it in my basement it's not science and trusting what scientists say about their fields of expertise is faith" I expect this will fall on deaf ears. 1) Thank you for your opinion, but it is just an opinion. I know how to do geometric, trigonometric and other proofs. I won a state wide competition in trigonometry. I do know how to go step by step from one observation to the logical next. You are obviously skipping quite many steps here. Time constraints? 2) Independent teams received revelation from a god. 3) Congratulations you got something right. Mostly that is, you left out how pleased I would be to receive an invitation to your demonstrations of anything. Don't stop. It's fun watching you do the same things "theists" do but with absolutely no clue it is the same thing. 1. My statement that your opinion that those things were speculative theories was false was a fact. But thanks for demonstrating you don't understand the difference between fact and opinion. 2. Never heard the Large Hadron Collider referred to as "a god," but OK. 3. I think everyone here would be pleased if you could demonstrate any of your controversial claims as well. I'm sure actual scientists would like to see it too. Yeah, you've pulled that "same as theists" crap before, as if trusting scientists when they say they've discovered a new particle is the same as trusting what theists say about their religion. When was the last time that all the world's religious leaders came forward to announce they'd discovered anything about God? Oh, right, that's never happened. Meanwhile, all the world's physicists agree the Higgs boson was discovered, and you'd have us think it's likely they're lying.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Apr 3, 2020 4:54:30 GMT
Im an agnostic who does not take religion seriously. If fact I find it a little scary when people do.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 3, 2020 7:56:36 GMT
If no one knows how many there are, what difference would that make? If you find one that disagrees with me please do let me know. One can go to the Wiki page on abiogenesis and check the references. Many are from books, many are from peer-reviewed papers. There's 50 references just in the intro. Plenty to read. I have that already. What do I need you for?
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Post by goz on Apr 3, 2020 23:27:40 GMT
One can go to the Wiki page on abiogenesis and check the references. Many are from books, many are from peer-reviewed papers. There's 50 references just in the intro. Plenty to read. I have that already. What do I need you for? Attempt to read it and understand it with your superlative reading powers and your over inflated intelligence?LOL Pigs might fly! You neither have the reading capacity nor the intelligence to absorb such ground breaking material.
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Post by Catman on Apr 3, 2020 23:29:18 GMT
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Apr 4, 2020 6:23:42 GMT
One can go to the Wiki page on abiogenesis and check the references. Many are from books, many are from peer-reviewed papers. There's 50 references just in the intro. Plenty to read. I have that already. What do I need you for? I wasn't aware I ever implied you did need me.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 4, 2020 12:02:53 GMT
I have that already. What do I need you for? Attempt to read it and understand it with your superlative reading powers and your over inflated intelligence?LOL Pigs might fly! You neither have the reading capacity nor the intelligence to absorb such ground breaking material. That's what I've been trying to tell you, but you're so s l o w. The page is obviously trying to keep up the hopes of the product of inferior public schools and make them feel better about the fact they have lower salaries than people who are not stupid.
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