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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 7:34:10 GMT
Should have the nerve to insult Our Lord by calling themselfs Christian.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2020 7:35:28 GMT
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 29, 2020 20:00:35 GMT
Anyone who's hardcore anti-Trump and claims to be Christian I would question them being Christian as it's obvious the left in general is more anti-Christian than the right. those who disagree got a distorted view on Christianity. the left favors disorder over order.
like I always say... those who take Christianity a bit more seriously tend to be conservative and those atheist types tend to be liberal. this says a lot right off the start.
politics aside... COVID-19 is very largely spread through hands to face contact (through eyes/nose/mouth) anyways (catching it in the air is more difficult to do as you got to be breathing it in for something like 15-30min etc) as it's much more difficult to get it from breathing the air given what a doctor says in the following video from March 28th on Waters World (only need to watch the first 7 minutes max since that's the section that pertains to COVID-19)...
so those who are freaking out over COVID-19, that's actually great news because if it mostly spread through the air that would make it much more contagious. but since that doctor says it's almost always through hands to face contact it's much easier to avoid. but since people tend to touch their face out of random habit that's why people need to be more award of what they touch. but on a personal level... I generally have been cautious about what I touch and tend to wash my hands shortly after returning home after being out in public etc.
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Post by progressiveelement on Mar 29, 2020 20:28:38 GMT
Anyone who's hardcore anti-Trump and claims to be Christian I would question them being Christian as it's obvious the left in general is more anti-Christian than the right. those who disagree got a distorted view on Christianity. the left favors disorder over order. like I always say... those who take Christianity a bit more seriously tend to be conservative and those atheist types tend to be liberal. this says a lot right off the start. politics aside... COVID-19 is very largely spread through hands to face contact (through eyes/nose/mouth) anyways (catching it in the air is more difficult to do as you got to be breathing it in for something like 15-30min etc) as it's much more difficult to get it from breathing the air given what a doctor says in the following video from March 28th on Waters World (only need to watch the first 7 minutes max since that's the section that pertains to COVID-19)... so those who are freaking out over COVID-19, that's actually great news because if it mostly spread through the air that would make it much more contagious. but since that doctor says it's almost always through hands to face contact it's much easier to avoid. but since people tend to touch their face out of random habit that's why people need to be more award of what they touch. but on a personal level... I generally have been cautious about what I touch and tend to wash my hands shortly after returning home after being out in public etc.
Why would it be Christian to like that twat in the first place? He's an asshole. He sold his soul like everyone who sits in a seat of power! They're all fucking evil, devoid of morals, they'd run over their grannies to get more power. Left AND right. Fuck them all!!!!
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Post by mslo79 on Mar 29, 2020 20:35:51 GMT
progressiveelementSimply because while he's not squeaky clean (who is?) at least he's not anti-USA/common person/Christianity like the left pretty much is. but in general it's the left who will do and say anything for more power as they don't really have a certain set of standards they won't cross as if they can grab more power they will shift their views to whatever they think will get it. another thing I always say... conservative/Christians generally base their moral code around Jesus Christ, which is basically objective morality, where as a typical person on the left seems to think morality is subjective as they make it up as they go along. so it's not surprising that morality is declining on the left given that kind of mindset (the left seems to be more of the worldly type who goes with the flow of whatever is popular at any given time regardless if it opposes Jesus Christ or not). I realize no one is perfect, as we all make mistakes, but some people really go off the rails and favor disorder over order etc.
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Post by progressiveelement on Mar 29, 2020 23:00:35 GMT
progressiveelement Simply because while he's not squeaky clean (who is?) at least he's not anti-USA/common person/Christianity like the left pretty much is. but in general it's the left who will do and say anything for more power as they don't really have a certain set of standards they won't cross as if they can grab more power they will shift their views to whatever they think will get it. another thing I always say... conservative/Christians generally base their moral code around Jesus Christ, which is basically objective morality, where as a typical person on the left seems to think morality is subjective as they make it up as they go along. so it's not surprising that morality is declining on the left given that kind of mindset (the left seems to be more of the worldly type who goes with the flow of whatever is popular at any given time regardless if it opposes Jesus Christ or not). I realize no one is perfect, as we all make mistakes, but some people really go off the rails and favor disorder over order etc.
We'll know how revered he truly is when he gets a warship named after him.
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Post by Catman on Mar 29, 2020 23:29:54 GMT
We'll know how revered he truly is when he gets a warship named after him. Like as not he'll be first in line to have a garbage scow named after him.
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Post by progressiveelement on Mar 29, 2020 23:41:31 GMT
We'll know how revered he truly is when he gets a warship named after him. Like as not he'll be first in line to have a garbage scow named after him.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 1, 2020 11:28:20 GMT
Anyone who's hardcore anti-Trump and claims to be Christian I would question them being Christian as it's obvious the left in general is more anti-Christian than the right. those who disagree got a distorted view on Christianity. the left favors disorder over order. like I always say... those who take Christianity a bit more seriously tend to be conservative and those atheist types tend to be liberal. this says a lot right off the start. politics aside... COVID-19 is very largely spread through hands to face contact (through eyes/nose/mouth) anyways (catching it in the air is more difficult to do as you got to be breathing it in for something like 15-30min etc) as it's much more difficult to get it from breathing the air given what a doctor says in the following video from March 28th on Waters World (only need to watch the first 7 minutes max since that's the section that pertains to COVID-19)... <video> so those who are freaking out over COVID-19, that's actually great news because if it mostly spread through the air that would make it much more contagious. but since that doctor says it's almost always through hands to face contact it's much easier to avoid. but since people tend to touch their face out of random habit that's why people need to be more award of what they touch. but on a personal level... I generally have been cautious about what I touch and tend to wash my hands shortly after returning home after being out in public etc. At some point it might make sense to recognize that simply because someone claims to be Christian it doesn't mean they are. Some people who do not even claim to be Christian can be more scriptural than those.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 1, 2020 11:43:53 GMT
Should have the nerve to insult Our Lord by calling themselfs Christian. Something about the "serenity to accept the things I cannot change"? Maybe take advice from your own avatar and think about puppies and kitties for a while. Or watch "Animals Unscripted" on TBD. They have loads of puppies and kitties. Later you might figure out how to change something after all.
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Post by Aj_June on May 30, 2020 19:23:27 GMT
Karl AkselAs a person living in one of the Nordic countries, I would like to know your thoughts on Sweden. Here's an article I read on the Wired Sweden’s coronavirus experiment has well and truly failed
The country gained early praise from some for shunning lockdown, but it now has one of the highest per-capita rates of coronavirus death in the world.
Read the full article here: www.wired.co.uk/article/sweden-coronavirus-herd-immunityI am seeing a very widespread attack on US and UK for not being able to handle the virus. Even I am one of those people who believe countries like the US and the UK mishandled the situation. But I am not seeing much of criticism on Sweden (partly because the American right wing wanted the US to emulate Sweden). I try to be a politically unbiased person and as per me Sweden's strategy has not been good and I have been saying that for a long time. What are your thoughts?
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Post by lowtacks86 on May 30, 2020 19:52:01 GMT
Anyone who's hardcore anti-Trump and claims to be Christian I would question them being Christian as it's obvious the left in general is more anti-Christian than the right. those who disagree got a distorted view on Christianity. the left favors disorder over order. like I always say... those who take Christianity a bit more seriously tend to be conservative and those atheist types tend to be liberal. this says a lot right off the start. politics aside... COVID-19 is very largely spread through hands to face contact (through eyes/nose/mouth) anyways (catching it in the air is more difficult to do as you got to be breathing it in for something like 15-30min etc) as it's much more difficult to get it from breathing the air given what a doctor says in the following video from March 28th on Waters World (only need to watch the first 7 minutes max since that's the section that pertains to COVID-19)... so those who are freaking out over COVID-19, that's actually great news because if it mostly spread through the air that would make it much more contagious. but since that doctor says it's almost always through hands to face contact it's much easier to avoid. but since people tend to touch their face out of random habit that's why people need to be more award of what they touch. but on a personal level... I generally have been cautious about what I touch and tend to wash my hands shortly after returning home after being out in public etc. It doesn't strike you as rather odd that Trump for the longest time never really expressed much religiosity until coincidently when he ran on the GOP ballot in 2016 and pandered to evangelicals? Even going by your Christian purity testing, there's skepticism to be made. Keep in mind this a guy that went to gay wedding as was quoted as saying "Its was one of the mot beautiful things he had ever seen". He gave a tacit defense of Planned Parenthood, saying it does "wonderful things".There was also the infamous incident where he was asked his favorite Bible verse and he could name a single one. I'm not gonna go as far as calling him an atheist or anything, but I get the feeling if I injected with truth serum and asked him if he geuinly believes the Bible, I feel his response would probably be "not really".
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 31, 2020 3:33:19 GMT
Karl Aksel As a person living in one of the Nordic countries, I would like to know your thoughts on Sweden. Here's an article I read on the Wired Sweden’s coronavirus experiment has well and truly failed
The country gained early praise from some for shunning lockdown, but it now has one of the highest per-capita rates of coronavirus death in the world.
Read the full article here: www.wired.co.uk/article/sweden-coronavirus-herd-immunityI am seeing a very widespread attack on US and UK for not being able to handle the virus. Even I am one of those people who believe countries like the US and the UK mishandled the situation. But I am not seeing much of criticism on Sweden (partly because the American right wing wanted the US to emulate Sweden). I try to be a politically unbiased person and as per me Sweden's strategy has not been good and I have been saying that for a long time. What are your thoughts? You asked Karl, but I'll simply say that, one, I didn't expect Sweden to do such a stupid thing by ignoring science and, two, they're pretty much now the shining example of what comes from ignoring science, and anyone arguing for a zero-policy approach to combat CV should be pointed towards their "example."
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Post by Aj_June on May 31, 2020 17:32:10 GMT
Karl Aksel As a person living in one of the Nordic countries, I would like to know your thoughts on Sweden. Here's an article I read on the Wired Sweden’s coronavirus experiment has well and truly failed
The country gained early praise from some for shunning lockdown, but it now has one of the highest per-capita rates of coronavirus death in the world.
Read the full article here: www.wired.co.uk/article/sweden-coronavirus-herd-immunityI am seeing a very widespread attack on US and UK for not being able to handle the virus. Even I am one of those people who believe countries like the US and the UK mishandled the situation. But I am not seeing much of criticism on Sweden (partly because the American right wing wanted the US to emulate Sweden). I try to be a politically unbiased person and as per me Sweden's strategy has not been good and I have been saying that for a long time. What are your thoughts? You asked Karl, but I'll simply say that, one, I didn't expect Sweden to do such a stupid thing by ignoring science and, two, they're pretty much now the shining example of what comes from ignoring science, and anyone arguing for a zero-policy approach to combat CV should be pointed towards their "example." The latest statistics is that Sweden has 10 times higher Corona related mortality per million than its neighbour Norway. They were looking for herd immunity of about 70% of their citizens (or at least in Stockholm) but the latest data shows they reached immunity of about 7.3%. I might have kept hopes alive that Sweden will be net better off after 2 or 3 waves of this virus but given that this virus affects different age groups asymmetrically, it seems now countries like Norway and Finland can concentrate on devising plans to protect people who are 60+. I think herd immunity was not a bad strategy in the long run but that should not have been their first tactics. They needed to give themselves time before endangering the vulnerable groups. But the vulnerable group already has faced a lot of deaths. So it seems Sweden's strategy may not pay off at all. Because people less than 60 are not greatly in danger from this virus. And the fact that Sweden has highest % of people working from home and highest single member households in the world meant Sweden was expected to have one of the lowest mortality rates in Europe. But things didn't unfold as expected.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jun 1, 2020 2:13:38 GMT
You asked Karl, but I'll simply say that, one, I didn't expect Sweden to do such a stupid thing by ignoring science and, two, they're pretty much now the shining example of what comes from ignoring science, and anyone arguing for a zero-policy approach to combat CV should be pointed towards their "example." The latest statistics is that Sweden has 10 times higher Corona related mortality per million than its neighbour Norway. They were looking for herd immunity of about 70% of their citizens (or at least in Stockholm) but the latest data shows they reached immunity of about 7.3%. I might have kept hopes alive that Sweden will be net better off after 2 or 3 waves of this virus but given that this virus affects different age groups asymmetrically, it seems now countries like Norway and Finland can concentrate on devising plans to protect people who are 60+. I think herd immunity was not a bad strategy in the long run but that should not have been their first tactics. They needed to give themselves time before endangering the vulnerable groups. But the vulnerable group already has faced a lot of deaths. So it seems Sweden's strategy may not pay off at all. Because people less than 60 are not greatly in danger from this virus. And the fact that Sweden has highest % of people working from home and highest single member households in the world meant Sweden was expected to have one of the lowest mortality rates in Europe. But things didn't unfold as expected. Herd immunity only works if you can protect the vulnerable, and that's nearly impossible with a virus that can be asymptomatic, especially for as long as CV can. I also think trying for herd immunity when a vaccine would only be 1-2 years away is pretty stupid as it's doubtful you're going to reach herd immunity in that time frame anyway.
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Post by goz on Jun 1, 2020 3:13:17 GMT
You asked Karl, but I'll simply say that, one, I didn't expect Sweden to do such a stupid thing by ignoring science and, two, they're pretty much now the shining example of what comes from ignoring science, and anyone arguing for a zero-policy approach to combat CV should be pointed towards their "example." The latest statistics is that Sweden has 10 times higher Corona related mortality per million than its neighbour Norway. They were looking for herd immunity of about 70% of their citizens (or at least in Stockholm) but the latest data shows they reached immunity of about 7.3%. I might have kept hopes alive that Sweden will be net better off after 2 or 3 waves of this virus but given that this virus affects different age groups asymmetrically, it seems now countries like Norway and Finland can concentrate on devising plans to protect people who are 60+. I think herd immunity was not a bad strategy in the long run but that should not have been their first tactics. They needed to give themselves time before endangering the vulnerable groups. But the vulnerable group already has faced a lot of deaths. So it seems Sweden's strategy may not pay off at all. Because people less than 60 are not greatly in danger from this virus. And the fact that Sweden has highest % of people working from home and highest single member households in the world meant Sweden was expected to have one of the lowest mortality rates in Europe. But things didn't unfold as expected. The tradeoff for not shutting down is supposed to protect the economy. This didn't work out as expected either. www.cnbc.com/2020/04/30/coronavirus-sweden-economy-to-contract-as-severely-as-the-rest-of-europe.html
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Post by Karl Aksel on Jun 1, 2020 12:56:51 GMT
Karl Aksel As a person living in one of the Nordic countries, I would like to know your thoughts on Sweden. Here's an article I read on the Wired Sweden’s coronavirus experiment has well and truly failed
The country gained early praise from some for shunning lockdown, but it now has one of the highest per-capita rates of coronavirus death in the world.
Read the full article here: www.wired.co.uk/article/sweden-coronavirus-herd-immunityI am seeing a very widespread attack on US and UK for not being able to handle the virus. Even I am one of those people who believe countries like the US and the UK mishandled the situation. But I am not seeing much of criticism on Sweden (partly because the American right wing wanted the US to emulate Sweden). I try to be a politically unbiased person and as per me Sweden's strategy has not been good and I have been saying that for a long time. What are your thoughts? I'm Norwegian, and our story is quite a bit different from that of Sweden. First of all, we were hit pretty hard early on in the pandemic - much harder than Sweden. But then we took steps, and we got it more or less under control. We are currently one of the most successful countries in Europe, Corona-wise. Of course, things are opening up more and more, and who knows what the second wave will be like. We'll see. Sweden, on the other hand, didn't get it so hard at first, and they basically took no steps at all. Their government issued recommendations, but left it up to the people whether or not they wanted to follow them. They've had a rough time with the virus. They have among the highest death rates in the world (relative to the population), but still not quite as much as Italy, Spain or Great Britain. On the one hand, they've paid a high price for their carelessness. On the other hand, it's made a lesser dent on their economy. But we won't know who has the last laugh until this whole pandemic is over - much could still happen. Sweden has a pretty small population, though - 10 million or so. Even if Sweden turns out to have the golden ticket here, I think it would be very ill advised for a country with a significantly higher population and population density to emulate them. Norway has an even smaller population, about half that of Sweden - which I do believe was why we managed to turn things around the way we did. Now consider Italy: a significantly smaller country in terms of area, but a population 12 times more numerous than that of Norway. It stands to reason that the dynamics of the pandemic will be completely different for the two countries. As for herd immunity - that's what they said they were going for in the UK as well, but they're even worse off than Sweden. Herd immunity doesn't work with this virus, because people seem to develop alarmingly few antibodies to it - many who have recovered, have no antibodies to Covid-19 at all.
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Post by Karl Aksel on Jun 1, 2020 13:09:31 GMT
Anyone who's hardcore anti-Trump and claims to be Christian I would question them being Christian as it's obvious the left in general is more anti-Christian than the right. Yeees, but it's always been the case that the left has been more anti-Christian than the right. That doesn't mean that leaders on the right are paragons of Christianity either, you know. By your logic, it would have been anti-Christian not to support Hitler. After all, he was on the right, and he argued for Christian values even more frequently than Trump does. So was Hitler on the side of Christianity? I'm not saying Trump is a Hitler. But your logic does mean that you'd be a staunch follower of Hitler, for the exact same reasons you follow Trump. I'm here to tell you that you can be anti-left and anti-Trump at the same time. We all know that Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about Christianity. He knows virtually nothing about it, and uses it only for political gain - to fool the easily led, like yourself. So the question is, whom do you hate more? The collective left, some of whom are outspoken atheists, or the asshole on the right, who tries to hide his atheism?
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 3, 2020 13:26:34 GMT
Karl Aksel As a person living in one of the Nordic countries, I would like to know your thoughts on Sweden. Here's an article I read on the Wired Sweden’s coronavirus experiment has well and truly failed
The country gained early praise from some for shunning lockdown, but it now has one of the highest per-capita rates of coronavirus death in the world.
Read the full article here: www.wired.co.uk/article/sweden-coronavirus-herd-immunityI am seeing a very widespread attack on US and UK for not being able to handle the virus. Even I am one of those people who believe countries like the US and the UK mishandled the situation. But I am not seeing much of criticism on Sweden (partly because the American right wing wanted the US to emulate Sweden). I try to be a politically unbiased person and as per me Sweden's strategy has not been good and I have been saying that for a long time. What are your thoughts? I'm Norwegian, and our story is quite a bit different from that of Sweden. First of all, we were hit pretty hard early on in the pandemic - much harder than Sweden. But then we took steps, and we got it more or less under control. We are currently one of the most successful countries in Europe, Corona-wise. Of course, things are opening up more and more, and who knows what the second wave will be like. We'll see. Sweden, on the other hand, didn't get it so hard at first, and they basically took no steps at all. Their government issued recommendations, but left it up to the people whether or not they wanted to follow them. They've had a rough time with the virus. They have among the highest death rates in the world (relative to the population), but still not quite as much as Italy, Spain or Great Britain. On the one hand, they've paid a high price for their carelessness. On the other hand, it's made a lesser dent on their economy. But we won't know who has the last laugh until this whole pandemic is over - much could still happen. Sweden has a pretty small population, though - 10 million or so. Even if Sweden turns out to have the golden ticket here, I think it would be very ill advised for a country with a significantly higher population and population density to emulate them. Norway has an even smaller population, about half that of Sweden - which I do believe was why we managed to turn things around the way we did. Now consider Italy: a significantly smaller country in terms of area, but a population 12 times more numerous than that of Norway. It stands to reason that the dynamics of the pandemic will be completely different for the two countries. As for herd immunity - that's what they said they were going for in the UK as well, but they're even worse off than Sweden. Herd immunity doesn't work with this virus, because people seem to develop alarmingly few antibodies to it - many who have recovered, have no antibodies to Covid-19 at all. Thanks Karl for your views. On another board I wrote this: Strange reporting pattern of Sweden continues. If somebody put a daily table and found standard deviation of daily reported deaths and daily new cases then Sweden will have bigger standard deviation than any other major country. If this sort of figure/table was there for a company reporting its daily revenue/net monthly profit I might have thought the company was indulging in accounting shenanigans. Okay, I know that Sweden is honestly reporting it except for the fact that they are not testing aggressively which means that actual number of cases are under-reported. It seems they don't report many deaths that occur on the weekends until Monday or Tuesday. Probably that is why we see so many ups and downs. Today, Sweden has reported 2,214 new cases which is a record number for them. There previous highest number of new cases for a one day was 812 on 24th April. So it seems to me the flattening of the curve is no where near at the moment.
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