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Post by gameboy on Apr 6, 2020 4:20:13 GMT
Actually, non-citizens are counted in the census. So their numbers are used to decide the size of congressional districts and the number of representatives each state gets in the House. So yes, if you bring over 100 million Mexicans then California gets over a fourth of the House. But the Mexicans still can't vote. So the state with the most Mexicans wins the House? Better not let Texas hear about that. At any rate, I'm sure there were many back then who truly believed that blacks were not "fully human," (not unlike how Jews were viewed by the Nazis), but that isn't why only 66% of them were counted for the census. As stated, the reason only three out of five slaves were counted for the census was... drum roll please...
for legislative representation and taxing purposes based on population.
But bottom line, Americans were still counted as 3/5 of a human being. Slavery is enshrined in the Constitution.
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Post by Admin on Apr 6, 2020 4:44:24 GMT
So the state with the most Mexicans wins the House? Better not let Texas hear about that. At any rate, I'm sure there were many back then who truly believed that blacks were not "fully human," (not unlike how Jews were viewed by the Nazis), but that isn't why only 66% of them were counted for the census. As stated, the reason only three out of five slaves were counted for the census was... drum roll please...
for legislative representation and taxing purposes based on population.
But bottom line, Americans were still counted as 3/5 of a human being. Slavery is enshrined in the Constitution. 
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Post by gameboy on Apr 6, 2020 5:38:52 GMT
But bottom line, Americans were still counted as 3/5 of a human being. Slavery is enshrined in the Constitution. Yeah, you are running around in circles. I won the argument. I tried to extricate but you keep beating your dead horse. 
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Post by Admin on Apr 6, 2020 5:48:22 GMT
Yeah, you are running around in circles. I won the argument. I tried to extricate but you keep beating your dead horse. Yup. You got me.
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Post by gameboy on Apr 6, 2020 5:59:21 GMT
No, it's an issue of slavery that blacks are still behind whites in matters of income. What other explanation could there be? You tell me? Are blacks genetically inferior? Or did slavery set them back? There are all sorts of injustices in the past. Slavery is different in that it was enshrined in the Constitution while at the same time it was at odds with the Bill of Rights. Latinos and homosexuals may suffer discrimination, but we were never shackled and deprived of our freedom to leave. Behind compared to whom? Is there another reason for this besides using slavery as a scapegoat? One only need look at Africa and its history and culture to see how the continent has developed. Africa has been exploited by whites, but also exploited by its own people.
The constitution has always been a source of contention regarding what it says and how things get administered. It is a buffer only to protect those that can use and manipulate it for their own self-serving means. It is man-made, so therefore very flawed and disingenuous.
Homosexuality operates on a different sphere, as that is a subtext within all races and creeds. It still operates as a subterfuge and does come wrapped up in a human rights package, due to others sense of attitude, ignorance, prejudice and bigotry and all based purely on sexual attraction.
Toasty, I've told you umpteen times already blacks are behind whites in income. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States And this income gap applies only to African-Americans whose ancestors were slaves. New immigrants from Africa don't suffer the same disparity with whites. Slavery is the cause of the disparity. You seem to be blaming African culture. That's nonsense. Immigrants come here from poor backwards Asian nations and flourish.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Apr 6, 2020 9:06:13 GMT
Behind compared to whom? Is there another reason for this besides using slavery as a scapegoat? One only need look at Africa and its history and culture to see how the continent has developed. Africa has been exploited by whites, but also exploited by its own people.
The constitution has always been a source of contention regarding what it says and how things get administered. It is a buffer only to protect those that can use and manipulate it for their own self-serving means. It is man-made, so therefore very flawed and disingenuous.
Homosexuality operates on a different sphere, as that is a subtext within all races and creeds. It still operates as a subterfuge and does come wrapped up in a human rights package, due to others sense of attitude, ignorance, prejudice and bigotry and all based purely on sexual attraction.
Toasty, I've told you umpteen times already blacks are behind whites in income. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States And this income gap applies only to African-Americans whose ancestors were slaves. New immigrants from Africa don't suffer the same disparity with whites. Slavery is the cause of the disparity. You seem to be blaming African culture. That's nonsense. Immigrants come here from poor backwards Asian nations and flourish. I know they can use census stats to gauge things, but it will never be absolute accuracy and the majority of African-Americans are only in the US due to slavery. There are other factors why they are behind in income, not due to antecedence. That seems an absurd strawman argument to me.
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Post by Sarge on Apr 6, 2020 18:23:50 GMT
Behind compared to whom? Is there another reason for this besides using slavery as a scapegoat? One only need look at Africa and its history and culture to see how the continent has developed. Africa has been exploited by whites, but also exploited by its own people.
The constitution has always been a source of contention regarding what it says and how things get administered. It is a buffer only to protect those that can use and manipulate it for their own self-serving means. It is man-made, so therefore very flawed and disingenuous.
Homosexuality operates on a different sphere, as that is a subtext within all races and creeds. It still operates as a subterfuge and does come wrapped up in a human rights package, due to others sense of attitude, ignorance, prejudice and bigotry and all based purely on sexual attraction.
Toasty, I've told you umpteen times already blacks are behind whites in income. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States And this income gap applies only to African-Americans whose ancestors were slaves. New immigrants from Africa don't suffer the same disparity with whites. Slavery is the cause of the disparity. You seem to be blaming African culture. That's nonsense. Immigrants come here from poor backwards Asian nations and flourish. How many African immigrants do you know? None I'd guess or would know they come from money. |
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Post by gameboy on Apr 6, 2020 19:07:05 GMT
Toasty, I've told you umpteen times already blacks are behind whites in income. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States And this income gap applies only to African-Americans whose ancestors were slaves. New immigrants from Africa don't suffer the same disparity with whites. Slavery is the cause of the disparity. You seem to be blaming African culture. That's nonsense. Immigrants come here from poor backwards Asian nations and flourish. How many African immigrants do you know? None I'd guess or would know they come from money. Nigerian immigrants are rich? Well there is one who claims to be a prince and wants you to invest money.
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Post by pennypacker on Apr 6, 2020 20:41:45 GMT
As a snowflake, I’m quite sorry I missed the OP.
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Post by ProjectError on Apr 6, 2020 20:45:44 GMT
What was the question?
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Post by Sarge on Apr 7, 2020 17:22:30 GMT
How many African immigrants do you know? None I'd guess or would know they come from money. Nigerian immigrants are rich? . Yeah, how do you think they afford to change countries. Did you think the Dutch are still bringing them over. |
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Post by gameboy on Apr 7, 2020 17:27:49 GMT
Nigerian immigrants are rich? . Yeah, how do you think they afford to change countries. Did you think the Dutch are still bringing them over. Sure, any immigrant needs to be able to buy an airline ticket to actually move here. But they're not wealthy. Can you explain to me why African immigrants do better than the descendants of slaves if it's not the legacy of slavery?
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Post by Sarge on Apr 7, 2020 17:33:03 GMT
Yeah, how do you think they afford to change countries. Did you think the Dutch are still bringing them over. Sure, any immigrant needs to be able to buy an airline ticket to actually move here. But they're not wealthy. Can you explain to me why African immigrants do better than the descendants of slaves if it's not the legacy of slavery? I already did. You should think things through. |
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Post by gameboy on Apr 7, 2020 17:45:37 GMT
Sure, any immigrant needs to be able to buy an airline ticket to actually move here. But they're not wealthy. Can you explain to me why African immigrants do better than the descendants of slaves if it's not the legacy of slavery? I already did. You should think things through. That's right. You said they come here with wealth. They don't.
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Post by onethreetwo on Apr 7, 2020 22:25:40 GMT
As a snowflake, I’m quite sorry I missed the OP. He asked if Gandhi was a racist for using what is now a racial slur. In the OP's defense he was merely asking a question. He didn't call Gandhi a racist. Maybe he just wanted to know what other people thought. I don't know. But from what I've seen from him here, the OP seems like a good guy. |
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Post by Admin on Apr 7, 2020 22:38:01 GMT
As a snowflake, I’m quite sorry I missed the OP. He asked if Gandhi was a racist for using what is now a racial slur. In the OP's defense he was merely asking a question. He didn't call Gandhi a racist. Maybe he just wanted to know what other people thought. I don't know. But from what I've seen from him here, the OP seems like a good guy. FTR, I did not edit the OP or the thread title. I know, you didn't say I did, but I feel the need to clear that up anyway.
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Post by pennypacker on Apr 7, 2020 22:42:34 GMT
As a snowflake, I’m quite sorry I missed the OP. He asked if Gandhi was a racist for using what is now a racial slur. In the OP's defense he was merely asking a question. He didn't call Gandhi a racist. Maybe he just wanted to know what other people thought. I don't know. But from what I've seen from him here, the OP seems like a good guy. He’s cool. |
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Post by pennypacker on Apr 7, 2020 22:44:51 GMT
He asked if Gandhi was a racist for using what is now a racial slur. In the OP's defense he was merely asking a question. He didn't call Gandhi a racist. Maybe he just wanted to know what other people thought. I don't know. But from what I've seen from him here, the OP seems like a good guy. FTR, I did not edit the OP or the thread title. I know, you didn't say I did, but I feel the need to clear that up anyway. It makes me sad that you have to dispel shit before it even begins. 😕 |
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Post by Admin on Apr 7, 2020 23:18:10 GMT
FTR, I did not edit the OP or the thread title. I know, you didn't say I did, but I feel the need to clear that up anyway. It makes me sad that you have to dispel shit before it even begins. 😕 Me too, but I didn't dispel anything here. /wave Penny 
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Post by pennypacker on Apr 7, 2020 23:24:26 GMT
It makes me sad that you have to dispel shit before it even begins. 😕 Me too, but I didn't dispel anything here. /wave Penny Didn’t you? Hey! I hope you’re doing well, A. 👊 |
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