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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2020 19:07:22 GMT
After years of trying to persuade him I have recently convinced my brother to try the genre of film noir. He borrowed a few blu Rays from me last week.
So far, he likes them! But... I was mortified and stupefied to find out that he was watching them during the DAY! In the bright Spring sun!
Naturally I explained to him that film Noirs must be watched at NIGHT! Or at the very least, on a rainy day. Not under the clear blue sky with birds chirping and children singing! But he wouldn't hear it. The fool!
I feel compelled to intervene.
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Post by jervistetch on Apr 4, 2020 19:17:35 GMT
Get him the help that he needs!
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Post by mattgarth on Apr 4, 2020 19:31:29 GMT
be sure to draw the blinds too.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Apr 4, 2020 19:50:35 GMT
be sure to draw the blinds too. That's especially effective if they're left open just a bit to allow thin shafts of light to cascade across the room. Smokers can add to that atmosphere as the tendrils wafting from their cigarettes are caught in the patterned illumination (although a vigorous feather-dusting may achieve a similar effect).
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Post by cynthiagreen on Apr 4, 2020 19:59:42 GMT
If he watches a rare colour noir the experience can be rendered noirer by adjusting the colour control to black & white.... in fact the truly noir of heart will leave it there for Romcoms, westerns and sword & sandal epics as well. And/or wear shades....
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Post by jervistetch on Apr 4, 2020 20:26:58 GMT
be sure to draw the blinds too.
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Post by teleadm on Apr 4, 2020 22:42:36 GMT
Well, squeeky stairs and dark houses is a bit easier to watch in broad daylight.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Apr 4, 2020 22:55:16 GMT
@forceghostackbar A Trench coat (belt optional) is essential !
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Post by mikef6 on Apr 5, 2020 0:56:42 GMT
He needs to find a double-crossing dame to watch them with.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 5, 2020 1:08:37 GMT
Didn't Sam Spade go to see the fat man in the middle of the day?
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Post by Doghouse6 on Apr 5, 2020 1:19:42 GMT
Didn't Sam Spade go to see the fat man in the middle of the day? I'm glad you brought that up. There are any number of well-respected examples of the genre - or style - featuring a good deal of sunlit scenes: Double Indemnity, Out Of the Past, Pitfall, Impact, The Postman Always Rings Twice, The Man Who Cheated Himself, The Big Sleep, On Dangerous Ground and, well, so on and so on. Noir is as much about mood as it is about visuals, and to reference Agatha Christie, there's often evil under the sun.
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Post by mikef6 on Apr 5, 2020 1:22:39 GMT
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Post by Doghouse6 on Apr 5, 2020 1:38:23 GMT
The deeper I went into the flow chart, the less sure I was of anything. Like a stranger in town with no friends, no street map and only a sawbuck in his pocket, I didn't know where to go, what to do or who to trust. All I knew was that I needed a stiff drink and a soft place to lay my head. And maybe a softer voice to tell me everything would be okay. If only I could believe it. Nah, I ain't in no film noir.
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Post by mikef6 on Apr 5, 2020 2:25:21 GMT
The deeper I went into the flow chart, the less sure I was of anything. Like a stranger in town with no friends, no street map and only a sawbuck in his pocket, I didn't know where to go, what to do or who to trust. All I knew was that I needed a stiff drink and a soft place to lay my head. And maybe a softer voice to tell me everything would be okay. If only I could believe it. Nah, I ain't in no film noir. "The rain was comin' down like all the angels in heaven decided to take a piss at the same time. When you're in a situation like mine, you can only think in metaphors." — Dick Justice, Max Payne 2
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Post by BATouttaheck on Apr 5, 2020 2:43:32 GMT
Rigby Reardon: All dames are alike: they reach down your throat so they can grab your heart, pull it out and they throw it on the floor, and they step on 'em with their high heels, they spit on it, shove it in the oven and they cook the shit out of it. Then they slice it into little pieces, slam it on a hunk of toast, and they serve it to you. And they expect you to say, "Thanks, honey, it's delicious." Rigby Reardon: I hadn't seen a body put together like that since I'd solved the case of the Murdered Girl with the Big Tits.
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Post by mikef6 on Apr 5, 2020 2:58:27 GMT
Rigby Reardon: All dames are alike: they reach down your throat so they can grab your heart, pull it out and they throw it on the floor, and they step on 'em with their high heels, they spit on it, shove it in the oven and they cook the shit out of it. Then they slice it into little pieces, slam it on a hunk of toast, and they serve it to you. And they expect you to say, "Thanks, honey, it's delicious." Rigby Reardon: I hadn't seen a body put together like that since I'd solved the case of the Murdered Girl with the Big Tits. Nobody can write noir novels and tough guy talk like Andrew Vachss. This is an actual sentence from an actual novel: Hong watched me approach his table like I was a bad biopsy result - "Pain Management" by Andrew Vachss (NY: Knopf, 2001), p. 277.
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Post by mikef6 on Apr 5, 2020 3:00:35 GMT
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Post by BATouttaheck on Apr 5, 2020 3:08:45 GMT
Noir phraseology: Sentences that make for great mental images ! Sometimes quite long and complicated requiring re-reading to follow the convolutions! Bogart had some of the best exchanges, including: Wilmer Cook: Keep on riding me and they're gonna be picking iron out of your liver. Sam Spade: The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter.
Sam Spade: [ranting] Now, both you and the police have as much as accused me of being mixed up in the other night's murders. Well, I've had trouble with both of you before. And as far as I can see my best chance of clearing myself of the trouble you're trying to make for me, is by bringing in the murderers all tied up. And the only chance I've got of catching them, and tying them up, and bringing them in, is by staying as far away as possible from you and the police, because you'd only gum up the works. [turns to stenographer] Sam Spade: You getting this all right, son, or am I goin' too fast for ya? Stenographer: No, sir, I'm getting it all right. Sam Spade: Good work.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2020 17:55:14 GMT
Rigby Reardon: All dames are alike: they reach down your throat so they can grab your heart, pull it out and they throw it on the floor, and they step on 'em with their high heels, they spit on it, shove it in the oven and they cook the shit out of it. Then they slice it into little pieces, slam it on a hunk of toast, and they serve it to you. And they expect you to say, "Thanks, honey, it's delicious." Rigby Reardon: I hadn't seen a body put together like that since I'd solved the case of the Murdered Girl with the Big Tits. I just google searched Rigby Reardon... How did I not know that Steve Martin made a film noir?! I must watch it immediately!
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Post by BATouttaheck on Apr 5, 2020 20:50:01 GMT
@forceghostackbar You get extra points if you can identify all of the clips in Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid
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