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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 5, 2020 23:38:33 GMT
I was so religious when i was 18-20 that i seriously contemplated becoming a monk and going into the Order of Friars Minor i was sure that God had called me to the life as a monk, but than i started to read science books and i understood that there is no God and religion is not true, at least there is no actual proof that any of it is real. Not that anybody cares.
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Post by northern on Apr 5, 2020 23:42:43 GMT
You got the last sentence right.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 5, 2020 23:43:21 GMT
You got the last sentence right. Blocked for being an ass
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Post by buckyv2 on Apr 5, 2020 23:59:48 GMT
You got the last sentence right. So....you are on the RFS page....curious.
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Apr 7, 2020 5:55:42 GMT
I used to be very religious when I was a teen. Boy did I change.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Apr 7, 2020 6:08:38 GMT
I was very religious too up until about the age of 12-13 when I first started to doubt what I'd been taught growing up. Reading a lot of science and philosophy made me atheist not too long after.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 7, 2020 7:19:26 GMT
I was never a religious person. I was never taught to be religious. I grew up along with cousins in my grandmother's home and I was usually always playing with kids outside of school hours. An uncle of mine had educated me about evolution at a very young age and I found that very interesting although I never studied the topic at an advanced level.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 7, 2020 9:12:11 GMT
I was so religious when i was 18-20 that i seriously contemplated becoming a monk and going into the Order of Friars Minor i was sure that God had called me to the life as a monk, but than i started to read science books and i understood that there is no God and religion is not true, at least there is no actual proof that any of it is real. Not that anybody cares. Science books?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 7, 2020 9:20:51 GMT
I was so religious when i was 18-20 that i seriously contemplated becoming a monk and going into the Order of Friars Minor i was sure that God had called me to the life as a monk, but than i started to read science books and i understood that there is no God and religion is not true, at least there is no actual proof that any of it is real. Not that anybody cares. Science books? Pretty sure i spelled it correctly.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 7, 2020 9:24:43 GMT
Pretty sure i spelled it correctly. Which science books? Does one in particular stand out in your memory?
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 7, 2020 9:34:17 GMT
Pretty sure i spelled it correctly. Which science books? Does one in particular stand out in your memory? The God delusion by Dawkins and also Origin of Species i read the Norwegian translation. Also some other but all in Norwegian.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 7, 2020 9:45:26 GMT
Which science books? Does one in particular stand out in your memory? The God delusion by Dawkins and also Origin of Species i read the Norwegian translation. Also some other but all in Norwegian. Being plainspoken can be a very admirable trait. Everybody including children knows exactly what you mean. Religion deals with things that are abstract, highly symbolic, and somewhat beyond the reach of plain speech.. "Science" suits plainspoken folk much better because its words only have one meaning that is readily available to everyone. Perhaps you made the right choice. Of course life is probably not as simple as science would have it, but it might be best if you let other people deal with that.
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Post by mslo79 on Apr 7, 2020 20:13:14 GMT
There is at least a plausible level of proof for those who can see it  -Eucharistic Miracles -Our Lady of Guadalupe image from the year 1531 -Shroud of Turin etc. don't let those godless atheists brainwash you into thinking there is no God when stuff like that is out there to say otherwise 
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Post by general313 on Apr 7, 2020 20:26:20 GMT
I read the book The Universe by Isaac Asimov in my late teens, and for me it had tremendous educational value in how science operates and how through inference and experimentation we know so much about the universe. It's a great read, with a story that goes from the Ancient Greeks to modern times. Since then I have greatly appreciated dicovery made by rational thinking. It started me on the road to questioning my religious beliefs.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 7, 2020 21:16:10 GMT
There is at least a plausible level of proof for those who can see it  -Eucharistic Miracles -Our Lady of Guadalupe image from the year 1531 -Shroud of Turin etc. don't let those godless atheists brainwash you into thinking there is no God when stuff like that is out there to say otherwise  The difference between me and you in this is probably that i am willing to admit that i can be wrong and that God may exist but i find it unlikely, i have a feeling you are not willing to admit that its possible that God does not exist. And non of those things are proof also the Shroud of Turin is only 728 years old. And non of the other things proves anything. Its not me not being able to see, its you seeing what you want to see. And when it comes to brainwashing nobody does that better than Christians and other religious people.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Apr 7, 2020 23:09:52 GMT
The notion of religion for me at the very least, did assist in paving the way into a more connected sense of spirituality, or holistic awareness.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Apr 7, 2020 23:33:14 GMT
There is at least a plausible level of proof for those who can see it  -Eucharistic Miracles -Our Lady of Guadalupe image from the year 1531 -Shroud of Turin etc. don't let those godless atheists brainwash you into thinking there is no God when stuff like that is out there to say otherwise  These are not proof of God.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Apr 7, 2020 23:46:55 GMT
I care. Many atheists/agnostics were religious at some point. I went through a long religious spell and even started studying for the diaconate, but I couldn’t reconcile my doubts and skepticism. However, I’m grateful for my time in the church. It taught me a lot about lovingkindness and being “God” in the world.
I don’t know if you know about Slavoj Zizek, but he addresses the nature of ideology including religious ideology using film to illustrate his points. His section on The Last Temptation of Christ.
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Post by mikef6 on Apr 9, 2020 1:07:31 GMT
I, like others on this thread, was very religious when I graduated from high school. I thought I wanted to be a Baptist (yes, Baptist) minister so went to a fundamentalist university for my undergrad. I lost most of my interest in that vocation by getting busy in the school’s excellent theater program and brand new staging facilities. By graduation, I had given up the idea entirely but never lost my interest in religious studies on an academic level, particularly the history of Judaism & Christianity, the formation of the Biblical canon, and the literary critical-historical study of how the books of the Bible, esp. the Gospels, came into existence through entirely human means (source, form, and redaction criticism). Except in a general way, e.g. Jesus’ teachings of love of neighbor and the poor, the Bible doesn’t have any direct effect on me or on any spirituality. I usually get my spirituality by way of music, Shakespeare, live theater, and great films.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 4:52:27 GMT
I used to be very religious in the legalistic sense. I didn't come to faith until my 20's, and spent many years studying the Bible. I became disillusioned with organized religion for a number of reasons, although my faith has not diminished. My nursing degree is a science degree, and all my science classes just added to my faith. The natural world is a magical place, and I see God's fingerprints on all of it.
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