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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 3:49:10 GMT
Singer was never grounded. Nolan's take was perfect for Batman, it just doesn't work with anyone else. Proof of the success of the MCU isn't only in the box office numbers, but in the fact that everybody is doing shared universes now. DC heroes, Universal classic monster movies, Godzilla/King Kong, that odd collection of 80s toys that are alleged to be in the works as a film series (Visionaries, GoBots, GI Joe, MASK). Every studio wants to recreate Marvel's successful formula now. Singer's way is grounded. It's why even after 17 years they still have trouble considering doing a cool space movie with the Shi'Ar and stuff. Singer just dislikes the comic. And Nolan's take worked so well because of the lack of real competition. He basically said "Look everyone, it's okay to be ashamed of comics. Have my stuff instead." and people ate it up. It's why MCU still has a hard time getting accepted and more requests for it being "grounded", because Nolan and Singer left a real scar on the genre. Well personally I think X Men, TDK trilogy and MCU are equal. I hope you don't think less of me for liking X Men and Nolan given that we're both fans of the MCU. That's why I tend to agree with you on DCEU being ashamed but I disagree with you on X Men but that's just my opinion. Trust me you and I both know I'm a neutral Singer-verse X Men fan unlike Question7 and Wormhole. There's no denying that the X Men franchise is leaps and bounds less ashamed than DCEU. Hopefully you're fine with me liking both.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 3:50:56 GMT
Ah, I see. I admit I like poking colden as well. The fact he's never figured out he's the only one getting riled up most of the time is hilarious. I'm still waiting for someone to notice that, too. Yeah, the only thing funnier is when AH_Fan starts using the colored text. Gods and Monsters was great, it's what inspired me to do a Marvel version of it. Or starts making crap up about Steve Rogers joining the army to get dates.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 3:52:53 GMT
Yeah, the only thing funnier is when AH_Fan starts using the colored text. Gods and Monsters was great, it's what inspired me to do a Marvel version of it. Or starts making crap up about Steve Rogers joining the army to get dates. The different colored text is a sign of his butthurt levels increasing.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 3:54:14 GMT
Or starts making crap up about Steve Rogers joining the army to get dates. The different colored text is a sign of his butthurt levels increasing. Someone's been giving him a royal ass-pounding lately, then.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 1, 2017 4:00:44 GMT
Yeah, the only thing funnier is when AH_Fan starts using the colored text. Gods and Monsters was great, it's what inspired me to do a Marvel version of it. Or starts making crap up about Steve Rogers joining the army to get dates. Despite it being shown that anytime Steve got any it was because the woman always came onto HIM (that army Private, Peggy) with him doing nothing to encourage it. It was just a side-effect of him just doing his job. Heck, Bruce Wayne shows more active women-hunting than him.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 4:01:26 GMT
The different colored text is a sign of his butthurt levels increasing. Someone's been giving him a royal ass-pounding lately, then. Probably Zack Snyder
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 4:04:37 GMT
Or starts making crap up about Steve Rogers joining the army to get dates. Despite it being shown that anytime Steve got any it was because the woman always came onto HIM (that army Private, Peggy) with him doing nothing to encourage it. It was just a side-effect of him just doing his job. Heck, Bruce Wayne shows more active women-hunting than him. Shh! Facts confuse Anne Hathaway Fan! A corpse is a more active skirt-hunter than Steve.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 4:04:55 GMT
Someone's been giving him a royal ass-pounding lately, then. Probably Zack Snyder And David Goyer.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 4:07:11 GMT
Probably Zack Snyder And David Goyer. Along with Patty Jenkins fingering him and David Ayer spanking him.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 4:10:11 GMT
Along with Patty Jenkins fingering him and David Ayer spanking him. And you just know Jared Leto was getting in on this action, because that man's a freak!
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Post by formersamhmd on May 1, 2017 4:17:54 GMT
Along with Patty Jenkins fingering him and David Ayer spanking him. And you just know Jared Leto was getting in on this action, because that man's a freak! You know, they had a perfectly good reason for why his Joker seems "off" and didn't take it. It would've resolved a lot of BvS' lead-up issues too. At some point in the past, Joker and Harley Quinn murder Robin and are spray painting his uniform when Batman finds them. He's so enraged by this he starts beating Joker worse than he ever has before, knocking some teeth out and everything. He stops when he sees Robin isn't dead yet so he gets him out of there and back to the Cave, leaving the battered Joker and terrified Harley. Joker's gone into a coma and was so thrashed he needed to have reconstructive surgery done and teeth replaced while Harley goes to jail. Robin dies despite Bruces' efforts, and he's so devastated from the loss he hangs up the cape and becomes a semi-recluse with Alfred. This explains why Clark didn't care about Batman until BvS, Bruce wasn't active during Man of Steel. Years later, Superman becoming active gets Bruce to come out of retirement except now he's become jaded and bitter and is more wiling to maim and kill while before he was more a straightforward hero. Some people wonder if it's the same Batman or a copycat. This is what gets Clarks' attention. Joker is still in a coma at the hospital, when he hears a news report about Batman. This wakes him from his coma and he escapes. First order of business is to rescue Harley. Why does he seem even more off than usual in Suicide Squad? He ha some brain damage from the beating and coma.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 1, 2017 4:19:39 GMT
Eh, same reason I liked driving Wormhole as crazy as he got. Admittedly, I went a tad too far with him. EDIT: I'm a little surprised none of the DC-Nutters have called me out on having a DC Avatar. Ah, I see. I admit I like poking colden as well. The fact he's never figured out he's the only one getting riled up most of the time is hilarious. I'm still waiting for someone to notice that, too.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 4:20:28 GMT
And you just know Jared Leto was getting in on this action, because that man's a freak! You know, they had a perfectly good reason for why his Joker seems "off" and didn't take it. It would've resolved a lot of BvS' lead-up issues too. At some point in the past, Joker and Harley Quinn murder Robin and are spray painting his uniform when Batman finds them. He's so enraged by this he starts beating Joker worse than he ever has before, knocking some teeth out and everything. He stops when he sees Robin isn't dead yet so he gets him out of there and back to the Cave, leaving the battered Joker and terrified Harley. Joker's gone into a coma and was so thrashed he needed to have reconstructive surgery done and teeth replaced while Harley goes to jail. Robin dies despite Bruces' efforts, and he's so devastated from the loss he hangs up the cape and becomes a semi-recluse with Alfred. This explains why Clark didn't care about Batman until BvS, Bruce wasn't active during Man of Steel. Years later, Superman becoming active gets Bruce to come out of retirement except now he's become jaded and bitter and is more wiling to maim and kill while before he was more a straightforward hero. Some people wonder if it's the same Batman or a copycat. This is what gets Clarks' attention. Joker is still in a coma at the hospital, when he hears a news report about Batman. This wakes him from his coma and he escapes. First order of business is to rescue Harley. Why does he seem even more off than usual in Suicide Squad? He ha some brain damage from the beating and coma. And that would have worked great. Infinitely better than anything they've actually done.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 1, 2017 4:23:28 GMT
You know, they had a perfectly good reason for why his Joker seems "off" and didn't take it. It would've resolved a lot of BvS' lead-up issues too. At some point in the past, Joker and Harley Quinn murder Robin and are spray painting his uniform when Batman finds them. He's so enraged by this he starts beating Joker worse than he ever has before, knocking some teeth out and everything. He stops when he sees Robin isn't dead yet so he gets him out of there and back to the Cave, leaving the battered Joker and terrified Harley. Joker's gone into a coma and was so thrashed he needed to have reconstructive surgery done and teeth replaced while Harley goes to jail. Robin dies despite Bruces' efforts, and he's so devastated from the loss he hangs up the cape and becomes a semi-recluse with Alfred. This explains why Clark didn't care about Batman until BvS, Bruce wasn't active during Man of Steel. Years later, Superman becoming active gets Bruce to come out of retirement except now he's become jaded and bitter and is more wiling to maim and kill while before he was more a straightforward hero. Some people wonder if it's the same Batman or a copycat. This is what gets Clarks' attention. Joker is still in a coma at the hospital, when he hears a news report about Batman. This wakes him from his coma and he escapes. First order of business is to rescue Harley. Why does he seem even more off than usual in Suicide Squad? He ha some brain damage from the beating and coma. And that would have worked great. Infinitely better than anything they've actually done. I just figured we were owed an explanation for why Clark suddenly NOW cared about Batman when he had all the time before MOS to do so and why this murderous Batman hadn't killed Joker or Harley. So I put this together.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 5:09:15 GMT
And that would have worked great. Infinitely better than anything they've actually done. I just figured we were owed an explanation for why Clark suddenly NOW cared about Batman when he had all the time before MOS to do so and why this murderous Batman hadn't killed Joker or Harley. So I put this together. And you did very well. I can't imagine it was difficult, either.
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Post by merh on May 1, 2017 9:01:10 GMT
Why the giant hate for Disney? Disney's wonderful world of color was a big part of my childhood. You one of those guys that will hate Disney forever for buying Pixar?Nope. Star Wars. You think the prequels were good? I joined the Sci fi club at BYU when my sister went there. They did their own version of Star Wars where Leia says "Get this walking carpet out of my way" & Han says "No reward is worth this" our Han dropped to his knee, saying "except for you, princess". They did up wedding announcements straight & a set as Han & Leia. I turned 17 that week Star Wars came out, but I didn't see it then. We were at the mall & there was a huge line so I asked what it was & my sister said it was probably Star Wars so we went early another day to see it. It was amazing. So I'm a bit pissed I can't get that version. Lucas is an Ass for that whole blocking the original version just because it was too clunky. The clunky was endearing. I was pissed at the prequels as well. The whole Jesus/Virgin Mary thing. We heard A baking was this huge hero of the clone wars & pooof, that was it? I enjoyed TFA. As someone who has seen every SW movie in a theater during each original release
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 1, 2017 10:09:27 GMT
Nope. Star Wars. You think the prequels were good? I joined the Sci fi club at BYU when my sister went there. They did their own version of Star Wars where Leia says "Get this walking carpet out of my way" & Han says "No reward is worth this" our Han dropped to his knee, saying "except for you, princess". They did up wedding announcements straight & a set as Han & Leia. I turned 17 that week Star Wars came out, but I didn't see it then. We were at the mall & there was a huge line so I asked what it was & my sister said it was probably Star Wars so we went early another day to see it. It was amazing. So I'm a bit pissed I can't get that version. Lucas is an Ass for that whole blocking the original version just because it was too clunky. The clunky was endearing. I was pissed at the prequels as well. The whole Jesus/Virgin Mary thing. We heard A baking was this huge hero of the clone wars & pooof, that was it? I enjoyed TFA. As someone who has seen every SW movie in a theater during each original release Yes, I think the prequels were good. Particularly as Star Wars films/sequels, as there're very few criticisms of them that can't be equally applied to the original trilogy for those willing to take off their childhood blinders -- this from someone who watched the OT hundreds upon hundreds of times growing up and loved them -- including everything from shitty acting to stilted dialogue. (Indeed the shittiest acting, crappiest effects, and most stilted dialogue all comes from the OT.) Not sure why people (a) cling to this obsession with the theatrical releases and (b) claim they "can't get" that version. I have pretty much those versions on DVD, via the 2006 release, and whatever differences exist between the so-called "1977" cut and that one are minimal/negligible. I watch them regularly. I also find the clunky endearing but understand why it was re-released and tweaked, IV in particular. Sorry the prequels pissed you off. The "virgin birth" plot device predates both the fictional stories of Anakin and Jesus. We indeed heard Anakin was a huge hero and got three movies and a television series about him. You can -- "poof" -- watch about fifty hours of Anakin and friends during the Clone Wars, not counting the seminal moments we got of them in Episodes II and III. So, there's quite a bit of material that has been released regarding Anakin Skywalker's exploits. I despised TFA, and I don't think seeing Star Wars in 1977 at a cinema makes your opinion any more valid than mine or anyone else's. Kinda sad and shameless, though, to be an intelligent person and lifelong fan duped by -- in the parlance of Han Solo -- "a lot of simple tricks and nonsense" just because a movie condescended to you at the fan service level to the point of all but having Threepio, Chewie, and R2 in the aisles of the movie theaters all over America in 2015 selling popcorn and Coca Cola. To each his -- or her -- own, I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 19:53:37 GMT
We weren't fooled by anything. We decided we liked TFA on its merits. "Threepio, Chewie, and R2 in the aisles of the movie theaters all over America in 2015 selling popcorn and Coca Cola." Yes, because that NEVER happened under George Lucas.
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Post by merh on May 2, 2017 1:36:45 GMT
Yes, I think the prequels were good. Particularly as Star Wars films/sequels, as there're very few criticisms of them that can't be equally applied to the original trilogy for those willing to take off their childhood blinders -- this from someone who watched the OT hundreds upon hundreds of times growing up and loved them -- including everything from shitty acting to stilted dialogue. (Indeed the shittiest acting, crappiest effects, and most stilted dialogue all comes from the OT.) Not sure why people (a) cling to this obsession with the theatrical releases and (b) claim they "can't get" that version. I have pretty much those versions on DVD, via the 2006 release, and whatever differences exist between the so-called "1977" cut and that one are minimal/negligible. I watch them regularly. I also find the clunky endearing but understand why it was re-released and tweaked, IV in particular. Sorry the prequels pissed you off. The "virgin birth" plot device predates both the fictional stories of Anakin and Jesus. We indeed heard Anakin was a huge hero and got three movies and a television series about him. You can -- "poof" -- watch about fifty hours of Anakin and friends during the Clone Wars, not counting the seminal moments we got of them in Episodes II and III. So, there's quite a bit of material that has been released regarding Anakin Skywalker's exploits. I despised TFA, and I don't think seeing Star Wars in 1977 at a cinema makes your opinion any more valid than mine or anyone else's. Kinda sad and shameless, though, to be an intelligent person and lifelong fan duped by -- in the parlance of Han Solo -- "a lot of simple tricks and nonsense" just because a movie condescended to you at the fan service level to the point of all but having Threepio, Chewie, and R2 in the aisles of the movie theaters all over America in 2015 selling popcorn and Coca Cola. To each his -- or her -- own, I suppose. www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-flashback-george-lucas-making-star-wars-20151206-story.htmlLucas was all about making a buck. I felt the prequels were indulgent. We heard Anakin was a great hero, but then the war lasted 2 minutes. My personal belief was Lucas blew it going with an 8 yr old Anakin. We should have met Anakin when he was Luke's age. Going back to age 8, he should have added a 4th movie because 3 wasn't enough to tell the story
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 2, 2017 3:22:37 GMT
Yes, I think the prequels were good. Particularly as Star Wars films/sequels, as there're very few criticisms of them that can't be equally applied to the original trilogy for those willing to take off their childhood blinders -- this from someone who watched the OT hundreds upon hundreds of times growing up and loved them -- including everything from shitty acting to stilted dialogue. (Indeed the shittiest acting, crappiest effects, and most stilted dialogue all comes from the OT.) Not sure why people (a) cling to this obsession with the theatrical releases and (b) claim they "can't get" that version. I have pretty much those versions on DVD, via the 2006 release, and whatever differences exist between the so-called "1977" cut and that one are minimal/negligible. I watch them regularly. I also find the clunky endearing but understand why it was re-released and tweaked, IV in particular. Sorry the prequels pissed you off. The "virgin birth" plot device predates both the fictional stories of Anakin and Jesus. We indeed heard Anakin was a huge hero and got three movies and a television series about him. You can -- "poof" -- watch about fifty hours of Anakin and friends during the Clone Wars, not counting the seminal moments we got of them in Episodes II and III. So, there's quite a bit of material that has been released regarding Anakin Skywalker's exploits. I despised TFA, and I don't think seeing Star Wars in 1977 at a cinema makes your opinion any more valid than mine or anyone else's. Kinda sad and shameless, though, to be an intelligent person and lifelong fan duped by -- in the parlance of Han Solo -- "a lot of simple tricks and nonsense" just because a movie condescended to you at the fan service level to the point of all but having Threepio, Chewie, and R2 in the aisles of the movie theaters all over America in 2015 selling popcorn and Coca Cola. To each his -- or her -- own, I suppose. www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-flashback-george-lucas-making-star-wars-20151206-story.htmlLucas was all about making a buck. I felt the prequels were indulgent. We heard Anakin was a great hero, but then the war lasted 2 minutes. My personal belief was Lucas blew it going with an 8 yr old Anakin. We should have met Anakin when he was Luke's age. Going back to age 8, he should have added a 4th movie because 3 wasn't enough to tell the story Groovy. I disagree. This was fun.
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