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Post by theravenking on Apr 16, 2020 14:24:17 GMT
To me this seems like a bond film made by someone who doesn’t like or understand bond films and is liked by the same kind of people. The unsexiest film of them all, very dreary and relies completely on coincidence to push the plot forward. More so than normal. Technically it may be a better film than some other in the franchise but it’s the worst bond film and the one o enjoy the least amount of scenes from. Even the worst bond films I can rewatch for fun, but not this one. It’s no fun, blech also much like rob zombies Halloween remake it needlessly tries to delve into the mysterious background of the main character... which is always lamer than what you’d imagine on your own fuck this film While I'm not as negative about it as you are, you raise some good points.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 16, 2020 14:40:43 GMT
Yay The coolest James Bond movie of them all, though it steals quite a bit from Nolan's Batman trilogy. Javier Bardem and Roger Deakins's masterful cinematography are what make this movie bad-ass. It is only the third Bond movie that perfectly mixes a serious tone with more silly James Bond stuff. GoldenEye and On Her Majesty's Secret Service are the other 2. It also has the best opening titles and theme song of the entire franchise imo. I need to revisit this one. I hated it in the theater because, as you pointed out, it embraced the campy Bond elements they had gone away from in the two previous installments. Campy Bond is still fun, but I really thought the franchise had upped its game with Casino Royale and QoS. Bardem is great but a little too cartoonish for my taste. He takes out his dentures and his face instantly CGI melts? The mix of seriousness and camp really threw me, but after the mess that was Spectre, Skyfall will surely feel like an improvement on rewatch. Agreed about the cinematography, top notch stuff. And yeah, the theme song is an all time Bond franchise classic.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 16, 2020 14:44:12 GMT
To me this seems like a bond film made by someone who doesn’t like or understand bond films and is liked by the same kind of people. The unsexiest film of them all, very dreary and relies completely on coincidence to push the plot forward. More so than normal. Technically it may be a better film than some other in the franchise but it’s the worst bond film and the one o enjoy the least amount of scenes from. Even the worst bond films I can rewatch for fun, but not this one. It’s no fun, blech also much like rob zombies Halloween remake it needlessly tries to delve into the mysterious background of the main character... which is always lamer than what you’d imagine on your own fuck this film
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Post by theravenking on Apr 16, 2020 14:52:43 GMT
Meh
Positive:
Javier Bardem does some enjoyable scenery-chewing as Silva
The Scottish Highlands are an inspired location for a Bond movie
Nice to have Q back
Liked the Albert Finney cameo
Negative:
The plot is all over the place and makes little sense
Judi Dench is great but I wouldn’t have minded having some pretty young lass along for the ride
It has little humour or charm
As enjoyable as Javier Bardem is sometimes he goes just a bit too over-the-top
It is more of a generic action movie and lacks the characteristics of a Bond film
Delving into Bond’s past might have seemed like an interesting idea, but it bears disappointing results, there should’ve been a stronger mystery element to the plot
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 16, 2020 16:09:13 GMT
Yay The coolest James Bond movie of them all, though it steals quite a bit from Nolan's Batman trilogy. Javier Bardem and Roger Deakins's masterful cinematography are what make this movie bad-ass. It is only the third Bond movie that perfectly mixes a serious tone with more silly James Bond stuff. GoldenEye and On Her Majesty's Secret Service are the other 2. It also has the best opening titles and theme song of the entire franchise imo. I need to revisit this one. I hated it in the theater because, as you pointed out, it embraced the campy Bond elements they had gone away from in the two previous installments. Campy Bond is still fun, but I really thought the franchise had upped its game with Casino Royale and QoS. Bardem is great but a little too cartoonish for my taste. He takes out his dentures and his face instantly CGI melts? The mix of seriousness and camp really threw me, but after the mess that was Spectre, Skyfall will surely feel like an improvement on rewatch. Agreed about the cinematography, top notch stuff. And yeah, the theme song is an all time Bond franchise classic. I don't love Casino Royale is probably why I don't have the same problem. It is the best written Bond movie, but it isn't as much fun because it takes itself too seriously. I think these movies work best when they have the more campy element to them, but only when they find a good balance and I think that Skyfall does this very well. The cgi face melt doesn't bother me because the movie rarely relies on cgi besides that scene. The cgi komodo dragon is the only other overly obvious use of cgi in the movie that I can remember.
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Apr 16, 2020 16:54:59 GMT
A monumental Yay.
Skyfall allows us to bathe in nostalgia whilst also forcing us to re- evaluate just where we are at in terms of our beloved super secret agent. One of the great things about this Bond is that there is a bubbling under current of time's importance delicately perched on each side of James Bond's shoulders. Is he (and M etc) outdated? Or is the future still in need of such operatives/organisations? Director Mendes and his team don't take any of the easy options that were clearly available to them to answer the question, they instead build a film around Bond and M as characters, embrace the traditions of the series and hit us hard in head and heart.
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