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Post by sdm3 on Apr 21, 2020 17:07:10 GMT
I actually had this question in mind earlier but Frank posted his around the same time, and I wanted to wait for his to be solved.
Since 1995, only six players taken first overall have won the Super Bowl. Name them.
(listed in order of answers given)
1. Peyton Manning
2. Keyshawn Johnson
3. Orlando Pace
4. Eli Manning
5. Eric Fisher
6. David Carr
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Post by Xeliou66 on Apr 21, 2020 17:09:36 GMT
Peyton Manning immediately comes to mind.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Apr 21, 2020 17:11:07 GMT
Troy Aikman
EDIT: Shit, nevermind.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Apr 21, 2020 17:11:56 GMT
Keyshawn Johnson and Orlando Pace.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Apr 21, 2020 17:12:37 GMT
Eli Manning was technically a #1 overall pick too, right? Sorry, don't mean to be shotgunning the thread. I'm just very excited!
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Apr 21, 2020 17:12:40 GMT
pace
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Post by sdm3 on Apr 21, 2020 17:13:00 GMT
Peyton Manning immediately comes to mind. Correct. Peyton, under multiple coaches in multiple offensive systems, took multiple franchises to four Super Bowls, winning two.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Apr 21, 2020 17:13:43 GMT
Eli Manning was technically a #1 overall pick too, right? Sorry, don't mean to be shotgunning the thread. I'm just very excited! it's addicting ain't it?
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Post by sdm3 on Apr 21, 2020 17:13:55 GMT
Troy Aikman EDIT: Shit, nevermind.
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Post by sdm3 on Apr 21, 2020 17:15:18 GMT
Keyshawn Johnson and Orlando Pace. Correct on both. I thought people might struggle to remember ol' Keyshawn. He won with the Bucs in 2002. And Orlando Pace was part of the Greatest Show on Turf Rams team that won in 1999.
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Post by sdm3 on Apr 21, 2020 17:16:23 GMT
Eli Manning was technically a #1 overall pick too, right? Sorry, don't mean to be shotgunning the thread. I'm just very excited! Yes, Eli was a first overall pick, and toppled the Patriots not once, but twice. He is DC Fan's all-time favorite human being.
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Post by _ on Apr 21, 2020 17:16:36 GMT
I actually had this question in mind earlier but Frank posted his around the same time, and I wanted to wait for his to be solved. Since 1995, only six players taken first overall have won the Super Bowl. Name them. 1. Orlando Pace 2. Peyton Manning 3. Eli Manning 4. 5. 6.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Apr 21, 2020 17:16:49 GMT
Keyshawn Johnson and Orlando Pace. Correct on both. I thought people might struggle to remember ol' Keyshawn. He won with the Bucs in 2002. And Orlando Pace was part of the Greatest Show on Turf Rams team that won in 1999. That was back in my heyday of following football. If I had to name anyone drafted #1 overall in the past 10 years, I'd probably really struggle to name a single one, let alone guys who also won a SB.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Apr 21, 2020 17:52:09 GMT
Eric Fisher on the Chiefs just did it I think.
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Post by sdm3 on Apr 21, 2020 17:57:54 GMT
Eric Fisher on the Chiefs just did it I think. He did, correct. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 21, 2020 18:07:50 GMT
Has to be Derek Carr. He must have been a 3rd string QB on a winner. Went through who it isn't. Carr or Tim Couch
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Post by sdm3 on Apr 21, 2020 18:10:21 GMT
Has to be Derek Carr. He must have been a 3rd string QB on a winner. Went through who it isn't. Carr or Tim Couch Derek Carr? 2014, taken 36th overall in the 2nd round?
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 21, 2020 18:39:05 GMT
Has to be Derek Carr. He must have been a 3rd string QB on a winner. Went through who it isn't. Carr or Tim Couch Derek Carr? 2014, taken 36th overall in the 2nd round? David, his brother. I tried not to do that specifically
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Apr 21, 2020 19:00:58 GMT
Warren Sapp - can't remember if you was taken 1st though
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Apr 21, 2020 19:14:41 GMT
Peyton Manning immediately comes to mind. Correct. Peyton, under multiple coaches in multiple offensive systems, took multiple franchises to four Super Bowls, winning two. A curious distinction. Wasn't the system based around Manning? How different was the offense in any given year in Indy? He had Harrison and Wayne almost his entire career there. Denver loaded up for Manning and ended up getting their asses handed to them by the Seahawks, and when they beat the Panthers, my mother could've put up numbers similar to Manning in SB 50. Brady took multiple coordinators and a head coach, all of whom have accomplished literally nothing before or since to nine Super Bowls and won six of them. The Patriots offensive system changes radically from the early dynasty era to the Moss/Welker years to the heavy TE sets of the early 2010s to a slot routes & RB as receiver offense from about 2013-2018. There's a reason Brady owns the record for throwing TDs to more receivers than any other QB in history. The offense changed, the faces changed, and Brady kept throwing TDs and winning Super Bowls. He won two Super Bowls with Chris Hogan as a starting receiver. He turned a college QB into a Super Bowl MVP at receiver. Deion Branch was a Super Bowl MVP and got traded. Moss set a record for TDs in a season, and they traded him. Gronk spent 1/4 of his career on IR (and missed the entire championship run culminating in the greatest SB comeback of all time). They let Welker walk (to Denver and Manning, no less). Did Manning ever have to start from scratch (besides his rookie season where he threw a million picks)? The Patriots basically went through rebuilds on both sides of the ball multiple times during Brady's tenure in NE, only nobody noticed because he stayed consistent and kept the team competitive. And I can't stress enough that Charlie Weiss, Romeo Crennel, Josh McDaniels, Matt Patricia (multiple OCs and DCs), Bill O'Brien (well at least he hasn't been fired, I'll give him that) and even Belichick have been absolute failures at every other coaching stop. BB won two rings as a Defensive coordinator and did nothing but lose as a head coach until Brady fell into his lap. Peyton Manning was a great QB, he could make every throw (unless it was cold, or in the postseason). But those teams were built around him, geared specifically for him to excel. Taking two franchises to championships is less impressive when both spared no expense to give you personally the best chance to succeed, and the second team literally won the title in spite of you that season. Peyton put up numbers because he was great, period. The fact that teams were built around him is a compliment to his talent in itself. But I wouldn't say they were 'multiple offensive systems.' (This was originally going to be a quick jab at Manning, but I turned it into 'Brady vs. Manning' in jimanchower's honor. I'd love to have this conversation with him, but his soul left his mortal coil after Super Bowl LI.)
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