Fans of the DCEU: Any DCEU movie you don't like?

Jun 2, 2020 22:04:25 GMT Jason143 said:

Jun 2, 2020 7:15:55 GMT blockbusted said:

Prove it, or eat sh!t.

League of shadows Batman Begins - "Every time a civilization reaches the pinnacle of its decadence, we return to restore the balance"

Except the only commonality is the word balance, the League of Shadows step in once a population has devolved into a seemingly irreversible level of corruption, at which point they interfere and destroy said civilisation resetting things, Thanos does what he does because he see's existence at it's current path and growth to be unsustainable so he wants to eradicate half of all life in the universe at random to restore the balance of nature, the LoS are motivated by societies corruption and they make judgements over individual societies, Thanos is motivated by a theoretical ideology and doesn't judge any individual society by their actions, good bad or indifferent his actions remain the same regardless.

This is like saying Spider-Man rips off Superman because they both wear red and blue costumes regardless of the fundamental differences in their characters.

I mean Hydra feels more similar to the LoS, both are secret organisations responsible for mass murder and terror who try to guide civilisations fate from the shadows holding themselves as judge and jury over the masses with their solution to their perceived problems being to murder people on mass to achieve their goals, but then this isn't strictly a DC or Marvel issue as it's a common trope in entertainment, as are most of the similarities people point out between the various movies.

Jun 6, 2020 16:24:35 GMT Jason143 said:

Jun 6, 2020 2:01:59 GMT dazz said:

Except the only commonality is the word balance, the League of Shadows step in once a population has devolved into a seemingly irreversible level of corruption, at which point they interfere and destroy said civilisation resetting things, Thanos does what he does because he see's existence at it's current path and growth to be unsustainable so he wants to eradicate half of all life in the universe at random to restore the balance of nature, the LoS are motivated by societies corruption and they make judgements over individual societies, Thanos is motivated by a theoretical ideology and doesn't judge any individual society by their actions, good bad or indifferent his actions remain the same regardless.

This is like saying Spider-Man rips off Superman because they both wear red and blue costumes regardless of the fundamental differences in their characters.

I mean Hydra feels more similar to the LoS, both are secret organisations responsible for mass murder and terror who try to guide civilisations fate from the shadows holding themselves as judge and jury over the masses with their solution to their perceived problems being to murder people on mass to achieve their goals, but then this isn't strictly a DC or Marvel issue as it's a common trope in entertainment, as are most of the similarities people point out between the various movies.

The commonality is both villain characters restoring balance to a civilisation through perceived exaggerated violent acts. The deeper exact reasons are not really relevant because the broad concept is the same. And since Thanos originally was designed to have motivations to please Death who wasn't around in the movie, they had to take inspiration from somewhere which was probably Batman Begins.

Again not really, the LoS do what they do to restore balance to civilisations on the brink of destruction, the idea probably being that they purge or cut out the diseased part of the civilisation allowing for a second chance for the healthy part of it to flourish.

Thanos isn't interested in civilisations, that has no impact on his actions, he simply believes the current level of life in the universe and continued growth is unsustainable so he wipes out half of all life, this isn't just on civilisations, he kills half of all life sentient or not, it doesn't matter how populated a world or a civilisation is 50% of the and 50% of any other living creature is getting taken away, and again Thanos makes sweeping action regardless of circumstances, the LoS take focused action based entirely on circumstances.

Also this is not a thing only Batman Begins ever did, to say well it was probably because of Batman Begins is ridiculous, it's a trope and was a trope even when Batman Begins did it, genocide bad guys isn't something new nor is genocidal bad guys who think they are good guys new either.