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Post by Jan El Señor on Apr 24, 2020 17:13:05 GMT
I'm doing a rewatch during this crisis, and also watching a lot of fan commentaries/reviews on Youtube. While there are many valid criticisms of verious aspects of the franchise, there are some repeated stupid criticisms that are widespread. Let me give you this example of a criticism of the prequels:
"The prequels retroactively make the skepticism of both Han Solo and Motti (in ANH) towards the Jedi and their powers look completely nonsensical. Both men were alive and at least in their teens when the Jedi fought in the Clone Wars and were hailed as the guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy. Solo and Motti treating the Jedi and the Force like an ancient superstition is the equivalent of a man in his thirties in 1960 having doubts about the existence of the Nazis."
The last sentence in bold is the dumbest part, as both characters clearly acknowledge the existence of the Jedi. They just think the stories of their powers and the Force are bullshit.
The best part is that this criticism has nothing to do with the prequels. This timeline is set in the 77 film. According to the 77 movie, the Jedi were hunted down by Vader and Luke's father was killed. Obviously, Luke's father could only have died 20 years earlier as Luke was supposed to be 19 in the film. So, that means, according to the 1977 film itself, the Jedi were killed about 20 years prior to the events of the movie. The prequels literally did not retroactively change anything.
What do you think? What are some of the dumbest criticisms you've heard?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 1:22:34 GMT
Well, just straight up boycotting the films with religious nuts. Havent been lucky enough to hear or read any dumb criticisms until now. Maybe I just dont remember them right now
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 27, 2020 9:42:29 GMT
It has a female lead is a stupid criticism i have seen some people on youtube make.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Apr 28, 2020 16:39:03 GMT
One of my favourites is criticism of fans criticising the prequels and in particular The Phantom Menace, with the disclaimer "Oh they're kids films, they were always just meant for kids".
Yeah right! Because George Lucas gets a pass on not being able to do basic math and calculate that the fans of the OT are now 20 years older 😂
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Post by Jan El Señor on Apr 28, 2020 17:18:25 GMT
One of my favourites is criticism of fans criticising the prequels and in particular The Phantom Menace, with the disclaimer "Oh they're kids films, they were always just meant for kids". Plus, they were never meant JUST for kids anyway.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jun 29, 2022 0:19:45 GMT
"Yoda shouldn't use a lightsaber" - he's a Jedi. A lightsaber is consistently referred to as a Jedi weapon. Kinda self-explanatory.
I could go on about the Luke critiques in TLJ, but life is too short.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Jun 29, 2022 23:07:33 GMT
ONe criticism that makes the least sense to me anyway... Is complaining about them not planning out the entire sequel trilogy beforehand.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jun 30, 2022 0:00:59 GMT
ONe criticism that makes the least sense to me anyway... Is complaining about them not planning out the entire sequel trilogy beforehand. That’s only a criticism if we get a good story, which we didn’t. |
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Post by mstreepsucks on Jun 30, 2022 0:08:57 GMT
ONe criticism that makes the least sense to me anyway... Is complaining about them not planning out the entire sequel trilogy beforehand. That’s only a criticism if we get a good story, which we didn’t. Exactly.
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Post by shinnickneth on Jun 30, 2022 4:40:41 GMT
"No one hates Star Wars like Star Wars fans!" is one of the most over-used, obnoxious, regurgitated sayings on the internet in regards to this franchise.
Those that use it don't even understand what being a fan means. Without the fans, the value wouldn't have been there for Disney to pay $1 billion for it from Lucas. Without the fans, the franchise would have died during the years where there were no new Star Wars movies or TV shows. Star Wars fans kept it going.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 7, 2022 22:48:45 GMT
The "woke" criticism is ridiculous. Just because a movie's lead is female or black does not make it woke. Other movies have had female and or black leads and didnt get this accusation. But when its Star Wars something ugly comes out in people!
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Post by novastar6 on Jul 8, 2022 16:04:37 GMT
The "woke" criticism is ridiculous. Just because a movie's lead is female or black does not make it woke. Other movies have had female and or black leads and didnt get this accusation. But when its Star Wars something ugly comes out in people!
Who was the bitch that said women couldn't relate to Luke Skywalker? Yeah that's about the dumbest criticism yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2022 5:09:06 GMT
I LITERALLY came across this racist negative review on IMDB of one of the Star Wars Prequels back in late 2013 LITERALLY criticizing the Prequels for giving us a strong black Star Wars Jedi in Samuel L. Jackson’s Mace Windu and he was saying something along the lines of how he preferred the Original Trilogy because the cast of OT was far less diverse and there were much more white people in the older movies.
I could be remembering it wrong…but it really shocked that certain so-called “Star Wars fans” out there could be a little racist with their criticism of the Star Wars franchise and stuff just there REALLY IS racism in the Star Wars fanbase and THERE ARE ALT-RIGHT/TRUMPLICAN-LEANING “fans” out there that dislike the Prequels for RACIST and SEXIST REASONS or because they feel the Prequels are “too woke” or “two-anti-Alt-Right/Trumplican” or some stupid bullshit like that.
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Post by Midi-Chlorian_Count on Jul 17, 2022 8:03:48 GMT
I LITERALLY came across this racist negative review on IMDB of one of the Star Wars Prequels back in late 2013 LITERALLY criticizing the Prequels for giving us a strong black Star Wars Jedi in Samuel L. Jackson’s Mace Windu and he was saying something along the lines of how he preferred the Original Trilogy because the cast of OT was far less diverse and there were much more white people in the older movies. I could be remembering it wrong…but it really shocked that certain so-called “Star Wars fans” out there could be a little racist with their criticism of the Star Wars franchise and stuff just there REALLY IS racism in the Star Wars fanbase and THERE ARE ALT-RIGHT/TRUMPLICAN-LEANING “fans” out there that dislike the Prequels for RACIST and SEXIST REASONS or because they feel the Prequels are “too woke” or “two-anti-Alt-Right/Trumplican” or some stupid bullshit like that. mmm, I don't know - Isn't there the same level of diversity in the OT and PT, i.e. Lando and Mace Windu, or one person?! Plus I think we must remember that racists - when all is said and done - are still human beings. Even for them non white characters are surely low down on the list of problems with the prequels! Love the use of literallies though... |
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Post by mstreepsucks on Jul 17, 2022 13:35:10 GMT
The "woke" criticism is ridiculous. Just because a movie's lead is female or black does not make it woke. Other movies have had female and or black leads and didnt get this accusation. But when its Star Wars something ugly comes out in people! I think you have to go by a case by case basis, to determine which films are woke or not...
Also, it depends on many factors that have to do with the individual films. It also has to do with how the films are written and things like that. I don't think it's as simple as, some films had female / black leads weren't accused of being woke, so now we can't say that any modern films are woke .
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Post by merh on Jul 20, 2022 22:40:34 GMT
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Post by James on Jul 21, 2022 1:28:36 GMT
The "woke" criticism is ridiculous. Just because a movie's lead is female or black does not make it woke. Other movies have had female and or black leads and didnt get this accusation. But when its Star Wars something ugly comes out in people! And not just Star Wars, but nearly every film and series to come out the past 5-6 years to have that.
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