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Post by baj2 on Apr 29, 2017 11:59:11 GMT
Maybe your friend was in the Musical Theatre course and knew him only for a semester. Hugh was in the Drama curriculum, which is why the plays he was involved in were straight plays while at WAAPA. Not to belabor the point, but the article also mentions this -- What is interesting is that the detour to the comicbook/superhero genre proved to be his career-defining role. But given his interests, it is not surprising that he would want to consider other career options at this point. Have you ever seen him onstage? It is not just for musical theatre, but he was outstanding in 2 straight plays on Broadway. The first one was a gripping two-hander with Daniel Craig about two rogue cops who were lifelong friends but whose relationship changed because of an unexpected turn of events. In a more poetic and enigmatic play called THE RIVER by Jez Butterworth ( a favorite playwright at the West End), the New York Times talked about how Hugh has matured in his stage acting. www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/theater/hugh-jackman-stars-in-the-river-on-broadway.html?_r=0Maybe he wants to explore the challenges of other aspects of acting in the next phase of his performing career? Seventeen years as Wolverine - that seems like he has already paid his dues to support the franchise that launched his Hollywood career  Cheers! |
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Post by politicidal on Apr 29, 2017 12:24:06 GMT
I'm just gonna say it. Keira Knightley and Pirates of the Caribbean. What other roles that she did are as memorable as Elizabeth Swann? To her credit, she's done everything from drama to romance and action thrillers or oscar bait fluff. But what's the quintessential Keira Knightley performance?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 12:24:14 GMT
Maybe your friend was in the Musical Theatre course and knew him only for a semester. Hugh was in the Drama curriculum, which is why the plays he was involved in were straight plays while at WAAPA. Not to belabor the point, but the article also mentions this -- What is interesting is that the detour to the comicbook/superhero genre proved to be his career-defining role. But given his interests, it is not surprising that he would want to consider other career options at this point. Have you ever seen him onstage? It is not just for musical theatre, but he was outstanding in 2 straight plays on Broadway. The first one was a gripping two-hander with Daniel Craig about two rogue cops who were lifelong friends but whose relationship changed because of an unexpected turn of events. In a more poetic and enigmatic play called THE RIVER by Jez Butterworth ( a favorite playwright at the West End), the New York Times talked about how Hugh has matured in his stage acting. www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/theater/hugh-jackman-stars-in-the-river-on-broadway.html?_r=0Maybe he wants to explore the challenges of other aspects of acting in the next phase of his performing career? Seventeen years as Wolverine - that seems like he has already paid his dues to support the franchise that launched his Hollywood career Cheers! I've heard he's got a great voice and is a good dancer. I don't think my friend performed or studied with Hugh or even knew him very well. The six month story may be bogus. There is a great deal of bashing of WAAPA, particularly from former students. The story may have generated from that. Then again I'm sure I've heard it from elsewhere and I think history changes twenty years after the fact. I could definitely see a both parties ignoring details like a couple of years of study. But I have no proof and yeah, it's likely bogus. You may be a fan of Hugh. I'm not exactly that. I think the Wolverine character is a dream character to have and many actors could have done it admirably. Hugh did ok, and I do admire the levels of fitness he achieved. What I don't like is his creative input into the franchise. The first two solo films are offesively bad, two squandered opportunities and I hardly think the third made up for it. Aside from that I as an Australian can hear his accent come through in the X-Films in all his dialogue. Any Aussie high school kid could have done better. Hugh may be very talented and has a high level of success but I don't like his Wolverine. |
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Post by hi224 on Apr 29, 2017 13:44:52 GMT
Wat
He's been in every XMen movie outside of First Class plus 3 movies as Wolverine.
Plus his career arguably did improve.
EDIT: I haven't seen Apocalypse so not sure if he's in that one.
He has a cameo in First Class but that's the point. A lead role was there for him in a fourth X-Men film but he didn't want it. Once First Class had success and there was shown to be life in the franchise he was interested again. And his career had some flops like the Peter Pan film but he keeps returning to X-films. Yeah but really his career was alright honestly. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 14:18:04 GMT
He has a cameo in First Class but that's the point. A lead role was there for him in a fourth X-Men film but he didn't want it. Once First Class had success and there was shown to be life in the franchise he was interested again. And his career had some flops like the Peter Pan film but he keeps returning to X-films. Yeah but really his career was alright honestly. Sure his career was going fine but his most financially successful films were the X-Men films. |
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Post by gromel on Apr 29, 2017 23:29:24 GMT
Connery and Lazenby.
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Post by Spike Del Rey on May 1, 2017 13:57:59 GMT
Alec Baldwin in Jack Ryan Michael Keaton in Batman Will Smith IDR Biggest loser is probably Crispin Glover in BTTF Baldwin was dumped as Jack Ryan in favor of Ford; he didn't leave on his own Keaton read the script for Batman Forever and decided correctly that it sucked (and the franchise didn't really rebound with its next effort, did it?) Will Smith was a genius not to get involved with the train wreck of a sequel that nobody was asking for. Three pretty poor examples. |
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Post by Spike Del Rey on May 1, 2017 14:02:01 GMT
I'm just gonna say it. Keira Knightley and Pirates of the Caribbean. What other roles that she did are as memorable as Elizabeth Swann? To her credit, she's done everything from drama to romance and action thrillers or oscar bait fluff. But what's the quintessential Keira Knightley performance? She's been nominated for two Oscars and probably should have been for another 2-3 roles in all honesty. Keira has never really sought out a career in huge blockbusters; in fact she's stated several times that she really would prefer the exact opposite. As far as her quintessential performance, I'd say that honor definitely goes to Pride & Prejudice. She is returning for what is probably nothing more than a cameo in the upcoming Pirates movie though. |
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Post by Phoenix101 on May 3, 2017 1:46:03 GMT
After X-Men: The Last Stand. Cameos don't count. ? didn't he do origins right after? That film doesn't exist anymore. Everyone who worked on it even said so. |
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Post by brownstones on May 3, 2017 1:48:15 GMT
? didn't he do origins right after? That film doesn't exist anymore. Everyone who worked on it even said so. in "canon" yeah not it has been removed, but the film itself still exists, Jackman still acted in it, someone still directed it, people got paid, things were blown up. |
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Post by ᵗʰᵉᵃᵘˣᵖʰᵒᵘ on May 3, 2017 2:07:21 GMT
Well Terence Howard left Iron Man after finding out he would take a pay cut for the sequels (apparentley he was the highest paid in the 1st film). Seeing how much money the subsequent Iron Man films, Avengers Ultron and Civil War made, seems to be a (financially) dumb move. From what I understand, the studio promised him a certain amount of money for the first film and then proposed he'd get significantly more for the sequel. To this, he agreed, but then the execs realised after the first film's success, they probably didn't really need Howard for the sequel to work, so they offered him way less - he passed on it. He also claims Robert Downey Jr. sold him out, with RDJ accepting more money for the sequel that Howard believes should've gone to him. More here: wegotthiscovered.com/movies/terrence-howard-fired-iron-man-2-robert-downey-jr |
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Post by Dayodead on May 3, 2017 5:26:18 GMT
Crispin Glover - Back to the Future The Crispin Glover situation is more akin to Robert Duvall for Godfather III...Glover merely wanted to get paid at least half of what the others were going to get for the sequels and the producers balked, so he walked...He didn't think he was "Too Good", he just wanted a little credit for doing such a good job in the first film (Personally, I think he's the saving grace of BTTF) |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 3, 2017 11:42:03 GMT
Crispin Glover - Back to the Future The Crispin Glover situation is more akin to Robert Duvall for Godfather III...Glover merely wanted to get paid at least half of what the others were going to get for the sequels and the producers balked, so he walked...He didn't think he was "Too Good", he just wanted a little credit for doing such a good job in the first film (Personally, I think he's the saving grace of BTTF) Well, I think of the "too good" to be a catch all phrase. However, thinking you are more valuable than the producers think is a form of too good imo. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 3, 2017 15:14:14 GMT
Not at all. Too good means the project is beneath you, not that you think you should be paid accordingly to what you feel is fair.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 3, 2017 15:25:33 GMT
So, to be clear, Glover absolutely loved the Bttf franchise but only refused to do it because of money?
What do we call those people since they appear to be even dumber than the "too good" people?
People who thought they were too valuable to lose only to see their value plummet down to the B villain in a Charlie's Angels movie?
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 3, 2017 15:34:10 GMT
False. You don't have to love something to not think you're above it. I neither said nor implied that.
And you don't have to think you're above something to want a raise.
They aren't mutually exclusive.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 3, 2017 15:38:36 GMT
PreachCalebI think you are overly complicating this or I'm not taking it seriously enough. Crispin Glover for whatever reason chose to not participate in Bttf. Whether it was for money or art or whatever, the bottom line is it didn't appear to end well for him. If it was for money alone and it involved a raise, then one is at least thinking they are above what others think of them and that's pretty much the standard for being above something. Still I will gladly admit to being wrong to avoid a semantics battle.
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Post by Dayodead on May 3, 2017 16:09:45 GMT
PreachCaleb I think you are overly complicating this or I'm not taking it seriously enough. Crispin Glover for whatever reason chose to not participate in Bttf. Whether it was for money or art or whatever, the bottom line is it didn't appear to end well for him. If it was for money alone and it involved a raise, then one is at least thinking they are above what others think of them and that's pretty much the standard for being above something. Still I will gladly admit to being wrong to avoid a semantics battle. Glover was initially offered HALF the pay of what Lea Thompson and Tom Wilson would be getting for the same size role...Apparently, he had a bad relationship with producer Bob Gale, after Glover bad mouthed the original movie's ending in the press...The salary BS was Gale's way of digging at Glover..After his agent tried to negotiate a proper deal, Gale then LOWERED the offer even more...Glover turned it down and the role was recast and script was rewritten to lessen the role of George McFly, to the detriment of the film's quality... |
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 3, 2017 16:23:03 GMT
PreachCaleb I think you are overly complicating this or I'm not taking it seriously enough. Crispin Glover for whatever reason chose to not participate in Bttf. Whether it was for money or art or whatever, the bottom line is it didn't appear to end well for him. If it was for money alone and it involved a raise, then one is at least thinking they are above what others think of them and that's pretty much the standard for being above something. Still I will gladly admit to being wrong to avoid a semantics battle. Glover was initially offered HALF the pay of what Lea Thompson and Tom Wilson would be getting for the same size role...Apparently, he had a bad relationship with producer Bob Gale, after Glover bad mouthed the original movie's ending in the press...The salary BS was Gale's way of digging at Glover..After his agent tried to negotiate a proper deal, Gale then LOWERED the offer even more...Glover turned it down and the role was recast and script was rewritten to lessen the role of George McFly, to the detriment of the film's quality... Not to mention, their sneaky tactics actually led to a lawsuit and the Screen Actor's Guild actually revised their clauses so this could not be done again without an actor's permission. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 3, 2017 16:48:37 GMT
PreachCaleb I think you are overly complicating this or I'm not taking it seriously enough. Crispin Glover for whatever reason chose to not participate in Bttf. Whether it was for money or art or whatever, the bottom line is it didn't appear to end well for him. If it was for money alone and it involved a raise, then one is at least thinking they are above what others think of them and that's pretty much the standard for being above something. Still I will gladly admit to being wrong to avoid a semantics battle. Glover was initially offered HALF the pay of what Lea Thompson and Tom Wilson would be getting for the same size role...Apparently, he had a bad relationship with producer Bob Gale, after Glover bad mouthed the original movie's ending in the press...The salary BS was Gale's way of digging at Glover..After his agent tried to negotiate a proper deal, Gale then LOWERED the offer even more...Glover turned it down and the role was recast and script was rewritten to lessen the role of George McFly, to the detriment of the film's quality... It would be interesting to see how his role changed if it was the equal of Biff's.
I guess he at least made up with Zemeckis considering he was Grendel.
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