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Post by mothersayadina on May 1, 2017 20:49:43 GMT
Well, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to defend myself against your mind, Terry. It simply is not a viable threat. As if having a forum that is almost a complete rip off of imdb's message board home page makes you smarter than me. I just think that it's suspicious how you're always at forums where former members are and then coming back her to discuss what they said over there like you did with ProjectError and Ben. Now you're doing the same with Gottaluvafriend. Anyone else would be thinking the same as me. I just think what you did with ProjectError at that other forum was unethical, but whatever.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 21:00:54 GMT
Well, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to defend myself against your mind, Terry. It simply is not a viable threat. As if having a forum that is almost a complete rip off of imdb's message board home page makes you smarter than me. I just think that it's suspicious how you're always at forums where former members are and then coming back her to discuss what they said over there like you did with ProjectError and Ben. Now you're doing the same with Gottaluvafriend. Anyone else would be thinking the same as me. I just think what you did with ProjectError at that other forum was unethical, but whatever. I wouldn't call it "suspicious" but it is unprofessional to get involved in drama on those other sites. Of course, this isn't his profession, so... eh? I'd prefer to see that come to a close but as long as he's as fair as possible around here, I'm not going to complain too much.
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Post by Nalkarj on May 1, 2017 21:04:28 GMT
Well, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to defend myself against your mind, Terry. It simply is not a viable threat. As if having a forum that is almost a complete rip off of imdb's message board home page makes you smarter than me. I just think that it's suspicious how you're always at forums where former members are and then coming back her to discuss what they said over there like you did with ProjectError and Ben. Now you're doing the same with Gottaluvafriend. Anyone else would be thinking the same as me. I just think what you did with ProjectError at that other forum was unethical, but whatever. Not trying to pick a fight with you, but, respectfully, I think this is pure silliness, Mothersayadina.
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Post by mothersayadina on May 1, 2017 21:06:47 GMT
As if having a forum that is almost a complete rip off of imdb's message board home page makes you smarter than me. I just think that it's suspicious how you're always at forums where former members are and then coming back her to discuss what they said over there like you did with ProjectError and Ben. Now you're doing the same with Gottaluvafriend. Anyone else would be thinking the same as me. I just think what you did with ProjectError at that other forum was unethical, but whatever. I wouldn't call it "suspicious" but it is unprofessional to get involved in drama on those other sites. Of course, this isn't his profession, so... eh? I'd prefer to see that come to a close but as long as he's as fair as possible around here, I'm not going to complain too much. I'm not complaining either. He pressed the issue. It just looked like a pattern to me. I was just trying to clarify because that's how it looked. 4 different former members left here and went elsewhere and the Admin tells us what they did on that other site. He could have just kept it to himself if he didn't want anyone asking questions. I get asked a million questions whenever I am on here so what makes Admin above it all especially since he's always somewhere where banned or deleted members leave here to be at AND bad mouthing this site? Why come back and tell us what was said over there particularly when those members are making negative comments about this place.
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Post by SomebodyWicked on May 1, 2017 21:06:51 GMT
Well, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to defend myself against your mind, Terry. It simply is not a viable threat. I just think what you did with ProjectError at that other forum was unethical, but whatever. What happened?
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Post by mothersayadina on May 1, 2017 21:08:26 GMT
As if having a forum that is almost a complete rip off of imdb's message board home page makes you smarter than me. I just think that it's suspicious how you're always at forums where former members are and then coming back her to discuss what they said over there like you did with ProjectError and Ben. Now you're doing the same with Gottaluvafriend. Anyone else would be thinking the same as me. I just think what you did with ProjectError at that other forum was unethical, but whatever. Not trying to pick a fight with you, but, respectfully, I think this is pure silliness, Mothersayadina. So you condone that behavior? Mkay. I suppose that I am among the few...
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Post by Nalkarj on May 1, 2017 21:15:40 GMT
I'm going to be quiet on this point after this, but... Thing is, mothersayadina, you didn't prove any "behavior," one way or another. You asserted, without evidence, that Admin had engaged in incorrect behavior. Fine, that's your opinion, even if I don't agree with it, which I showed by stating that I found it "pure silliness." When I made my statement, you responded by criticizing me for condoning the behavior that you never proved, but merely asserted, to have happened. That is comparable to saying a tax cut is bad because you believe it would hurt the poor. Then someone else argues that the tax cut is good, and, instead of critiquing his argument, you say that he's wrong because he supports hurting the poor. Then you're just repeating your original assertion again. It's called circular reasoning, or (in this case) " begging the question," and it's a logical fallacy.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 21:17:12 GMT
I wouldn't call it "suspicious" but it is unprofessional to get involved in drama on those other sites. Of course, this isn't his profession, so... eh? I'd prefer to see that come to a close but as long as he's as fair as possible around here, I'm not going to complain too much. I'm not complaining either. He pressed the issue. It just looked like a pattern to me. I was just trying to clarify because that's how it looked. 4 different former members left here and went elsewhere and the Admin tells us what they did on that other site. He could have just kept it to himself if he didn't want anyone asking questions. I get asked a million questions whenever I am on here so what makes Admin above it all especially since he's always somewhere where banned or deleted members leave here to be at AND bad mouthing this site? Why come back and tell us what was said over there particularly when those members are making negative comments about this place. Well, clearly he's eager to defend this board and his decisions. Whether it's the right call to do that on other sites and whether he conducts himself in a professional way on those sites, eh, I think no, probably not. It'd be better just to ignore them and not get into a pissing match with them. I know that doesn't answer all your questions but that's my overall stance on it so you can infer the rest.
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Post by Admin on May 1, 2017 22:28:06 GMT
Well, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to defend myself against your mind, Terry. It simply is not a viable threat. As if having a forum that is almost a complete rip off of imdb's message board home page makes you smarter than me. You're being silly again. It has nothing to do with rank. There's nothing "suspicious" about it, Terry. When I'm being talked about on a public platform, I feel I have a right to be a part of the discussion, and being admin of this forum doesn't preclude that right. In the case of this thread, I was simply dispelling the rumors and addressing the concerns of some of the members of this forum that I kicked or banned Gottaluvafriend for whatever reason. I am not the who brought this up. All I did was delete an account by the request of the account holder, and next thing I know, it's the subject of a thread in which people are stating things that are not true, speculating reasons, and accusing me of banning members because of mob rule. Apparently my first response to this thread wasn't good enough, so I eventually provided evidence. That's really all there is to it. The rest is just tangential discussion, which I welcome. After all, this is a discussion board, is it not?
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Post by Admin on May 1, 2017 22:30:30 GMT
Whether it's the right call to do that on other sites and whether he conducts himself in a professional way on those sites, eh, I think no, probably not. I'm just another member on those other forums. If the conduct of others should not apply here, why should mine? Why should I be held accountable here for what I say there if no one else is?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 22:36:30 GMT
Whether it's the right call to do that on other sites and whether he conducts himself in a professional way on those sites, eh, I think no, probably not. I'm just another member on those other forums. If the conduct of others should not apply here, why should mine? Why should I be held accountable here for what I say there if no one else is? Because you are acting as the voice and owner of this site over on those sites. Unlike users, you have a higher standard to live up to and your conduct reflects on the entire board as opposed to just yourself. It would be better if you didn't get into it with them.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 22:43:31 GMT
gottaluvafriend was truly an odd one from my stand point. Brilliant at times,inept to the rules of bakers dozen at times and an asehole many times. I don't miss his fowl language or braiding of other here.
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Post by mothersayadina on May 1, 2017 22:52:37 GMT
As if having a forum that is almost a complete rip off of imdb's message board home page makes you smarter than me. You're being silly again. It has nothing to do with rank. There's nothing "suspicious" about it, Terry. When I'm being talked about on a public platform, I feel I have a right to be a part of the discussion, and being admin of this forum doesn't preclude that right. In the case of this thread, I was simply dispelling the rumors and addressing the concerns of some of the members of this forum that I kicked or banned Gottaluvafriend for whatever reason. I am not the who brought this up. All I did was delete an account by the request of the account holder, and next thing I know, it's the subject of a thread in which people are stating things that are not true, speculating reasons, and accusing me of banning members because of mob rule. Apparently my first response to this thread wasn't good enough, so I eventually provided evidence. That's really all there is to it. The rest is just tangential discussion, which I welcome. After all, this is a discussion board, is it not? All that is true. It just seemed suspicious that you saw former members talking crap about you at other online forums. You have every right to defend yourself against haters like Ben, Project and Gottaluvafriend. It's strange that Gottaluvafriend threatened you. I didn't know he was like that. What a putz. Lol
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Post by Admin on May 1, 2017 22:53:37 GMT
I'm just another member on those other forums. If the conduct of others should not apply here, why should mine? Why should I be held accountable here for what I say there if no one else is? Because you are acting as the voice and owner of this site over on those sites. Unlike users, you have a higher standard to live up to and your conduct reflects on the entire board as opposed to just yourself. Well, it's not like I'm conducting myself in a manner there that isn't consistent with my conduct here. Aside from maybe a few snide (and, IMO, totally justified, lol) comments to Ben, I'm not doing anything on any of those other sites that I wouldn't do and haven't done here. Dispelling rumors, squashing lies, and addressing concerns...just like I'm doing in this thread. The location should not be relevant. However... This is actually the subject of an ongoing private conversation between myself and a few others. I can see both sides clearly because I'm sitting on the fence about it. On one hand, I probably should let them spread lies about me, this site, and the members here, but on the other hand is the question of why I should...
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Post by Admin on May 1, 2017 22:58:13 GMT
All that is true. It just seemed suspicious that you saw former members talking crap about you at other online forums. Terry, these are sites that most all of us know about. If it's suspicious that I see them, why is it not equally as suspicious that you do too? To be honest, most times it's someone else who brings the posts on those sites to my attention, as was the case with this very thread. Thank you, but apparently the question is whether or not I should exercise that right. I didn't take that as a threat.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 23:08:13 GMT
Because you are acting as the voice and owner of this site over on those sites. Unlike users, you have a higher standard to live up to and your conduct reflects on the entire board as opposed to just yourself. Well, it's not like I'm conducting myself in a manner there that isn't consistent with my conduct here. Aside from maybe a few snide (and, IMO, totally justified, lol) comments to Ben, I'm not doing anything on any of those other sites that I wouldn't do and haven't done here. Dispelling rumors, squashing lies, and addressing concerns...just like I'm doing in this thread. The location should not be relevant. However... This is actually the subject of an ongoing private conversation between myself and a few others. I can see both sides clearly because I'm sitting on the fence about it. On one hand, I probably should let them spread lies about me, this site, and the members here, but on the other hand is the question of why I should... Why? Because you simply don't need to. The board speaks for itself, does it not?
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Post by Admin on May 1, 2017 23:23:15 GMT
Well, it's not like I'm conducting myself in a manner there that isn't consistent with my conduct here. Aside from maybe a few snide (and, IMO, totally justified, lol) comments to Ben, I'm not doing anything on any of those other sites that I wouldn't do and haven't done here. Dispelling rumors, squashing lies, and addressing concerns...just like I'm doing in this thread. The location should not be relevant. However... This is actually the subject of an ongoing private conversation between myself and a few others. I can see both sides clearly because I'm sitting on the fence about it. On one hand, I probably should let them spread lies about me, this site, and the members here, but on the other hand is the question of why I should... Why? Because you simply don't need to. The board speaks for itself, does it not? I like to believe so, but when it doesn't, I'd rather it be me than someone else, especially when that someone else is not speaking for me or this board truthfully. Take this very thread, for example. Do you think I should not have gotten involved and just let people think and believe whatever they're being told by others while knowing full well that it simply isn't true? Or are you saying that I should refrain from setting it straight only when it's not on this forum?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 23:35:43 GMT
Why? Because you simply don't need to. The board speaks for itself, does it not? I like to believe so, but when it doesn't, I'd rather it be me than someone else, especially when that someone else is not speaking for me or this board truthfully. Take this very thread, for example. Do you think I should not have gotten involved and just let people think and believe whatever they're being told by others while knowing full well that it simply isn't true? Or are you saying that I should refrain from setting it straight only when it's not on this forum? I'm saying that you should only endeavor to set things straight on this forum and leave it at that and avoid getting embroiled in drama elsewhere. It's not worth the little bit of honey you get by sticking your tongue into a beehive, if you get me. That's my take on it.
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Post by Admin on May 1, 2017 23:44:04 GMT
I like to believe so, but when it doesn't, I'd rather it be me than someone else, especially when that someone else is not speaking for me or this board truthfully. Take this very thread, for example. Do you think I should not have gotten involved and just let people think and believe whatever they're being told by others while knowing full well that it simply isn't true? Or are you saying that I should refrain from setting it straight only when it's not on this forum? I'm saying that you should only endeavor to set things straight on this forum and leave it at that and avoid getting embroiled in drama elsewhere. It's not worth the little bit of honey you get by sticking your tongue into a beehive, if you get me. That's my take on it. That would be the first hand I mentioned above. I know in the grand scheme of things, it ultimately does not matter what's being said on what I affectionately call the Isle of Misfits, but damn if it isn't difficult to ignore, especially when it's so easily debunked. Thanks for your input, Bartlesby. It is not falling upon deaf ears. -John
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 23:55:53 GMT
yawns Lock the topic Admin gottaluvafriend got more time then he deserved
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