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Post by DC-Fan on May 1, 2017 15:50:45 GMT
The Fantastic Four (and by extension, the X-Men and the Avengers later on) would never have existed without the Justice League. Stan Lee ONLY created the Fantastic Four because his boss at Marvel told him to create a superhero team after he saw how popular the Justice League comics were. Nope, the Fantastic Four would've existed regardless. They were based on the idea of "A superhero family" that didn't always get along, which has little to do with the Justice League who were a much much more generic group. And as such, the Avengers and X-Men didn't need the Justice League either. Nope, the Fantastic Four (and by extension, the X-Men and the Avengers later on) wouldn't have existed without the Justice League. The Fantastic Four was based on the idea of a superhero team, which DC first introduced with the Justice Society in the 1940s and then made popular with the Justice League in the 1960s. So you dumb MCU fans don't want to admit it, but the fact is that without the Justice League, there's no Fantastic Four, no X-Men, and no Avengers.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 1, 2017 15:57:12 GMT
Nope, the Fantastic Four would've existed regardless. They were based on the idea of "A superhero family" that didn't always get along, which has little to do with the Justice League who were a much much more generic group. And as such, the Avengers and X-Men didn't need the Justice League either. Nope, the Fantastic Four (and by extension, the X-Men and the Avengers later on) wouldn't have existed without the Justice League. The Fantastic Four was based on the idea of a superhero team, which DC first introduced with the Justice Society in the 1940s and then made popular with the Justice League in the 1960s. So you dumb MCU fans don't want to admit it, but the fact is that without the Justice League, there's no Fantastic Four, no X-Men, and no Avengers.Nope, the FF were based on the idea "What if there were Superheroes who were a family and had family problems instead of superhero problems" which DC never had the balls to create. It had nothing to do with the Justice League or the Justice Society. In fact, if it hadn't been for Marvel showing just how good a team book could be DC would've pulled the plug on Justice League early on. So Marvel once again beat DC at the game. So yeah, Marvel again is self-made. They got the FF which led to the X-Men and the Avengers.
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Post by DC-Fan on May 1, 2017 16:14:42 GMT
Nope, the Fantastic Four (and by extension, the X-Men and the Avengers later on) wouldn't have existed without the Justice League. The Fantastic Four was based on the idea of a superhero team, which DC first introduced with the Justice Society in the 1940s and then made popular with the Justice League in the 1960s. So you dumb MCU fans don't want to admit it, but the fact is that without the Justice League, there's no Fantastic Four, no X-Men, and no Avengers.Nope, the FF were based on the idea "What if there were Superheroes who were a family and had family problems instead of superhero problems" which DC never had the balls to create. It had nothing to do with the Justice League or the Justice Society. In fact, if it hadn't been for Marvel showing just how good a team book could be DC would've pulled the plug on Justice League early on. So Marvel once again beat DC at the game. So yeah, Marvel again is self-made. They got the FF which led to the X-Men and the Avengers. Nope, you're clearly so bothered by the fact that the Fantastic Four, the X-Men, and the Avengers wouldn't even exist without the Justice League that you're trying to re-write history. But no matter how much you try to re-write history, you can't change the fact that the fact is that without the Justice League, there's no Fantastic Four, no X-Men, and no Avengers.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 1, 2017 16:18:11 GMT
Nope, the FF were based on the idea "What if there were Superheroes who were a family and had family problems instead of superhero problems" which DC never had the balls to create. It had nothing to do with the Justice League or the Justice Society. In fact, if it hadn't been for Marvel showing just how good a team book could be DC would've pulled the plug on Justice League early on. So Marvel once again beat DC at the game. So yeah, Marvel again is self-made. They got the FF which led to the X-Men and the Avengers. Nope, you're clearly so bothered by the fact that the Fantastic Four, the X-Men, and the Avengers wouldn't even exist without the Justice League that you're trying to re-write history. But no matter how much you try to re-write history, you can't change the fact that the fact is that without the Justice League, there's no Fantastic Four, no X-Men, and no Avengers.Nope, the Justice League were too irrelevant and generic to have anything to do with Marvels' works. The FF were based on a more solid concept and that led to the other Marvel team books. Take away the Justice League, Marvel would still have the FF the X-Men and the Avengers. The League had nothing to do with it. In fact, if it weren't for Marvel pioneering new concepts in ways DC was too cowardly to do the Justice League comic would've been canceled. If DC hadn't copied Marvel, DC would've closed its offices years ago.
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Post by formersamhmd on May 1, 2017 16:33:08 GMT
Yeah, they would. Superman was an archetype, not a character. And those are easy to create. Other Comic Heroes existed before Superman and they didn't need him to get by. The Fantastic Four was enough of a success that it would've led to a team eventually. The Justice League thing is just an excuse. Dude, you're making an asshole out of yourself. Nah, I just know the best way to get to a DC Fanatic is to hit them where it hurts. By pointing out how Marvel did stuff DC was too cowardly to do.
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Post by zoilus on May 1, 2017 16:35:54 GMT
Dude, you're making an asshole out of yourself. Nah, I just know the best way to get to a DC Fanatic is to hit them where it hurts. By pointing out how Marvel did stuff DC was too cowardly to do. DC-FanYou know how stupid DC Comics is? DC stands for Detective Comics. Their name is Detective Comics Comics. LOLOLOLOL
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Post by formersamhmd on May 1, 2017 16:39:07 GMT
Nah, I just know the best way to get to a DC Fanatic is to hit them where it hurts. By pointing out how Marvel did stuff DC was too cowardly to do. DC-Fan You know how stupid DC Comics is? DC stands for Detective Comics. Their name is Detective Comics Comics. LOLOLOLOL Redundant much, redundant? XD
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Post by DC-Fan on May 1, 2017 21:56:41 GMT
In terms of the top 5 most iconic superheroes in American comics history, the top 4 ("the Mount Rushmore of superheroes") are obvious: Superman, Batman, Spider-Man, and Wonder Woman. No other superheroes come close to those 4.
At #5, I would go with Captain America. He's been around since the early 1940s so even most non-comic book fans have heard of him before.
It's so weird that the DC folks can't get over their trinity When are you going to start to realize that aren't as great as you think they are? Actually, it's not just me or DC folks who agree that Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman are in the top 3 for all-time most iconic superheroes in American comics history. This is Part 1 of a documentary called "Superheroes Decoded" which just premiered on the History Channel last night.
www.history.com/shows/superheroes-decoded/season-1/episode-1
Watching this documentary, it's very obvious that they consider the top 5 all-time most iconic superheroes to be the same ones on my list: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, and Captain America.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 22:05:28 GMT
And yet Marvel is kicking the asses of those most iconic superheroes EVA at the box office.
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Post by zoilus on May 1, 2017 22:10:32 GMT
It's so weird that the DC folks can't get over their trinity When are you going to start to realize that aren't as great as you think they are? Actually, it's not just me or DC folks who agree that Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman are in the top 3 for all-time most iconic superheroes in American comics history. This is Part 1 of a documentary called "Superheroes Decoded" which just premiered on the History Channel last night.
www.history.com/shows/superheroes-decoded/season-1/episode-1
Watching this documentary, it's very obvious that they consider the top 5 all-time most iconic superheroes to be the same ones on my list: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, and Captain America. Iconic doesn't mean best, and it damn sure doesn't mean their movies are guaranteed to be the best.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on May 1, 2017 23:17:05 GMT
Actually, it's not just me or DC folks who agree that Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman are in the top 3 for all-time most iconic superheroes in American comics history. This is Part 1 of a documentary called "Superheroes Decoded" which just premiered on the History Channel last night.
www.history.com/shows/superheroes-decoded/season-1/episode-1
Watching this documentary, it's very obvious that they consider the top 5 all-time most iconic superheroes to be the same ones on my list: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, and Captain America. Funny so few people went to see the movie all 3 of those DC characters were in. Why was that?
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Post by politicidal on May 3, 2017 16:09:35 GMT
Superman - nuff said
Batman - The successor to the costumed vigilantes of old.
Wonder Woman - The best example of comic book characters serving as modern mythical figures. Literally pulled from Greek mythology.
SpiderMan - The reluctant hero who matures over the course of his story.
Wolverine - The iconic quintessential antihero.
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