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Post by dirtypillows on May 13, 2020 12:53:46 GMT
I just got done watching the movie. It was underwhelming to say the least. For all the dramatic hoopla, not much happened.
This movie was the food equivalent of a potato. No butter, no sour cream, no salt or pepper, no chives, no cheese, no bacon bits and no steak sauce. Just a potato, half-baked. Starchy and heavy. And no substance whatsoever. Robert DeNiro's performance was dense, cloddish. (I could not have cared less about the dumbass boxer.) Like Susan Tyrell once said, "buried overacting".
I liked Cathy Moriarty. That was it. I also found it pretty boring. I give this movie * 3/4.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on May 13, 2020 14:34:07 GMT
Masterpiece
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Post by movielover on May 13, 2020 14:35:28 GMT
Cinematically, it's a masterpiece. Somewhat depressing to watch, but still a very good movie.
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Post by jamesbamesy on May 13, 2020 15:03:47 GMT
Well I think it’s really good, but not quite a masterpiece.
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Post by bravomailer on May 13, 2020 15:31:45 GMT
I don't care for it, though I would not say it's dull, boring, pretentious, pointless. It is, however, cold and unengaging.
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Post by mslo79 on May 13, 2020 16:34:34 GMT
Clearly overrated!
it's a pretty average/forgettable movie overall.
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Post by Archelaus on May 13, 2020 17:14:16 GMT
It's a masterpiece to me. Robert De Niro gives a tour de force performance. I wouldn't call the best film of the 1980s, but it's up there and it's among the best works from Martin Scorsese and De Nro.
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Post by gspdude on May 13, 2020 17:36:30 GMT
Didn't vote either. Didn't love the movie, but thought DeNiro had a great performance.
When I left the theater (yes, I'm that old) I said if DeNiro doesn't win the Oscar, no one should ever win the Oscar.(he did)
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on May 13, 2020 17:48:52 GMT
Haven't voted as the two choices don't weigh up to me personally. There are far more Scorsese films wildly over praised ahead of Raging Bull, which as it happens is a great movie. Tough going, but great cinematic art exists, but I certainly wouldn't have it as one of the best of the decade
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Post by dirtypillows on May 13, 2020 18:40:16 GMT
I don't care for it, though I would not say it's dull, boring, pretentious, pointless. It is, however, cold and unengaging. I would agree with "cold and unengaging". |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 18:48:04 GMT
I thought it was really good. Better than I expected because what are the odds it can live up to its reputation? It's the first thing to tune out while trying to watch. The notable things that elevated the experience for me were: the black and white, the snapshots and accompanying glimpses of happiness and the anger reaching a boiling point when it spills into family violence.
My two favorite Scorsese's are Mean Streets and The King of Comedy, neither of which are the so-called unassailable masterpieces of his work. Nonetheless I got through Raging Bull and felt like it's pretty much worth the accolades. Not under or overrated, but more less where it should be. I wouldn't not recommend watching it at least once.. The ending I didn't care for as much, not that it took away from it, I just find it oddly unmemorable compared to the rest.
My sister didn't care for it, thought it was just relentlessly masculine which is fine if you're into that sort of thing.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 13, 2020 20:48:20 GMT
I thought it was really good. Better than I expected because what are the odds it can live up to its reputation? It's the first thing to tune out while trying to watch. The notable things that elevated the experience for me were: the black and white, the snapshots and accompanying glimpses of happiness and the anger reaching a boiling point when it spills into family violence.
My two favorite Scorsese's are Mean Streets and The King of Comedy, neither of which are the so-called unassailable masterpieces of his work. Nonetheless I got through Raging Bull and felt like it's pretty much worth the accolades. Not under or overrated, but more less where it should be. I wouldn't not recommend watching it at least once.. The ending I didn't care for as much, not that it took away from it, I just find it oddly unmemorable compared to the rest.
My sister didn't care for it, thought it was just relentlessly masculine which is fine if you're into that sort of thing.
My two favorite Scorsese films are "Mean Streets" and "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore". The only Robert DeNiro performance that I really admire is his Johnny from MS. |
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Post by Marv on May 13, 2020 21:04:16 GMT
Ive never been able to get through it. Ive tried maybe 3-4 different times over the years to sit down and watch this movie all the way through and I get so bored pretty quickly. I dunno. Its one of those movies I feel like I should like on paper. Im a fan of Scorcese, Deniro, Pesci, boxing movies in general I find entertaining probably moreso than any other sport film...I just can never seem to get into this one.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 21:13:53 GMT
I thought it was really good. Better than I expected because what are the odds it can live up to its reputation? It's the first thing to tune out while trying to watch. The notable things that elevated the experience for me were: the black and white, the snapshots and accompanying glimpses of happiness and the anger reaching a boiling point when it spills into family violence.
My two favorite Scorsese's are Mean Streets and The King of Comedy, neither of which are the so-called unassailable masterpieces of his work. Nonetheless I got through Raging Bull and felt like it's pretty much worth the accolades. Not under or overrated, but more less where it should be. I wouldn't not recommend watching it at least once.. The ending I didn't care for as much, not that it took away from it, I just find it oddly unmemorable compared to the rest.
My sister didn't care for it, thought it was just relentlessly masculine which is fine if you're into that sort of thing.
My two favorite Scorsese films are "Mean Streets" and "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore". The only Robert DeNiro performance that I really admire is his Johnny from MS.It's a good one. I really liked it too. Mean Streets had me from the Be My Baby beginning. I said this once before so I'm recycling it, but Mean Streets really struck me as characters from a Ralph Bakshi movie like Heavy Traffic or Hey Good Looking! come to life.
I haven't seen Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore yet. It'll happen soon enough. 
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Post by dirtypillows on May 13, 2020 22:06:07 GMT
My two favorite Scorsese films are "Mean Streets" and "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore". The only Robert DeNiro performance that I really admire is his Johnny from MS.It's a good one. I really liked it too. Mean Streets had me from the Be My Baby beginning. I said this once before so I'm recycling it, but Mean Streets really struck me as characters from a Ralph Bakshi movie like Heavy Traffic or Hey Good Looking! come to life.
I haven't seen Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore yet. It'll happen soon enough. I was just talking to a friend about "Heavy Traffic". I love that movie. I can see the correlation between the two films. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 14, 2020 1:59:22 GMT
For all the acclaim that was lauded over this film, I struggle with it. I find it ugly, repellent and leaden. There is another ugly and repellent film from the same year, William Friedkin's Cruising, that is at least somewhat compelling in its own misguided and dark stance, yet is even more violent.
The Academy got it right with selecting Ordinary People for best picture and that film does leave a lot of food for thought, without a dry and bland aftertaste. Donald Sutherland also gave a far superior performance without any raging histrionics that DeNiro showcased and got all these accolades for. Sutherland wasn't even nominated for what I consider his finest hour.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 14, 2020 2:36:35 GMT
I just got done watching the movie. It was underwhelming to say the least. For all the dramatic hoopla, not much happened. This movie was the food equivalent of a potato. No butter, no sour cream, no salt or pepper, no chives, no cheese, no bacon bits and no steak sauce. Just a potato, half-baked. Starchy and heavy. And no substance whatsoever. Robert DeNiro's performance was dense, cloddish. (I could not have cared less about the dumbass boxer.) Like Susan Tyrell once said, "buried overacting". I liked Cathy Moriarty. That was it. I also found it pretty boring. I give this movie * 3/4. Yes, good analogy. It had no flavor whatsoever. Even a story about a horrid character, can have some flair. This film was all on the surface and yes, not much depth of substance, unlike Ordinary People. Scorsese's Taxi Driver had more style and nuance.
Moriarty is another of those actresses that enhance a film to me. I love watching her in anything she's in. She was only 19 when she made this film.
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Post by OldAussie on May 14, 2020 3:07:59 GMT
Excellently made but unappealing to me. I watch it about every 10 years to check if I feel differently but it never changes my opinion.
Direction 10/10
Acting 10/10
Entertainment value 5/10
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Post by Fox in the Snow on May 14, 2020 3:31:00 GMT
I think it's among Scorsese's best (it's my personal #3 behind After Hours and The Aviator) and it's certainly technically accomplished. There's definitely a cold detached vibe to it, which I can imagine puts some people off.
It'd probably make my top 25 or so of the 80s.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 14, 2020 3:57:12 GMT
I think it's among Scorsese's best (it's my personal #3 behind After Hours and The Aviator) and it's certainly technically accomplished. There's definitely a cold detached vibe to it, which I can imagine puts some people off. It'd probably make my top 25 or so of the 80s. "After Hours" was very entertaining. So offbeat and funny and quirky, I could hardly believe the same man had directed it. |
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