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Post by Prime etc. on May 14, 2020 4:01:20 GMT
Overrated.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on May 14, 2020 4:08:20 GMT
I think it's among Scorsese's best (it's my personal #3 behind After Hours and The Aviator) and it's certainly technically accomplished. There's definitely a cold detached vibe to it, which I can imagine puts some people off. It'd probably make my top 25 or so of the 80s. "After Hours" was very entertaining. So offbeat and funny and quirky, I could hardly believe the same man had directed it. It's great, my clear favorite of his, but quite un-Scorsesian. Griffin Dunne's performance is one of my all time favorites.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 14, 2020 4:12:46 GMT
"After Hours" was very entertaining. So offbeat and funny and quirky, I could hardly believe the same man had directed it. It's great my clear favorite of his, but quite un-Scorsesian. Griffin Dunne's performance is one of my all time favorites. Scorsese did something a little out of the box with After Hours and it worked. He had also done something a little wacky and off-beat with King Of Comedy, which I like too.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on May 14, 2020 4:15:20 GMT
De Niro's acting is spot on, but I found the story uninteresting and the movie dull. Not a fan of the decision to film it in black-and-white either.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on May 14, 2020 4:41:50 GMT
It's great my clear favorite of his, but quite un-Scorsesian. Griffin Dunne's performance is one of my all time favorites. Scorsese did something a little out of the box with After Hours and it worked. He had also done something a little wacky and off-beat with King Of Comedy, which I like too. I like King of Comedy as well. A middle ground between Taxi Driver and After Hours. Would work well as a double feature paired with either one.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 14, 2020 5:02:05 GMT
It's great my clear favorite of his, but quite un-Scorsesian. Griffin Dunne's performance is one of my all time favorites. Scorsese did something a little out of the box with After Hours and it worked. He had also done something a little wacky and off-beat with King Of Comedy, which I like too. Toasted Cheese, what did you think of Shelley Hack in "King"? I haven't seen the movie. Well, only parts of it. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 14, 2020 8:20:20 GMT
Scorsese did something a little out of the box with After Hours and it worked. He had also done something a little wacky and off-beat with King Of Comedy, which I like too. Toasted Cheese, what did you think of Shelley Hack in "King"? I haven't seen the movie. Well, only parts of it. I hardly recall her in it. I think she was a pr person who worked at the t.v station where Jerry had his office that Rupert was trying to get an audience with regarding his stand-up shtick and he kept getting rejected and lied too.
I can't forget Sandra Bernhard. She was just weird man. It was a non-performance really, just a wacky outlandish persona, playing a wacky character. King Of Comedy was a film that I didn't think I was going to like, but after half an hour I settled into it and have found it memorable.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 14, 2020 8:30:46 GMT
Them choices though.  It's not an easy sit given how unlikable the main character is, but it's a fascinating character study and it's *some* of their best work. Not thee best. |
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Post by someguy on May 14, 2020 13:05:01 GMT
I wouldn't call it the best film of Scorsese's career, but it was very possibly the best performance of DeNiro's career.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 14, 2020 15:54:03 GMT
Them choices though. It's not an easy sit given how unlikable the main character is, but it's a fascinating character study and it's *some* of their best work. Not thee best. Yeah, I thought about that after the fact. I should have had a couple other options. When I wrote the poll, I was thinking that "Raging Bull" was a movie that polarized viewers. And I also thought that a good solid 80% were going to be huge fans of the movie. I had no idea there were going to be so many people who disliked it as I did. |
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Post by bd74 on May 14, 2020 16:35:58 GMT
To this day I have never seen it. I watched a clip of a scene where Deniro is talking to himself in a mirror, and another clip where he's talking to some female on the other side of a fence. Honestly, it all looked boring. I don't know that I'd have the patience to sit through it.
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Post by miike80 on May 14, 2020 16:37:13 GMT
Masterpiece and the best DeNiro has ever been
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 18:52:55 GMT
To this day I have never seen it. I watched a clip of a scene where Deniro is talking to himself in a mirror, and another clip where he's talking to some female on the other side of a fence. Honestly, it all looked boring. I don't know that I'd have the patience to sit through it. It's interesting. Even on top of its reputation the first thing that hit me was the black and white. The longer the film goes, the more it plays into the theme. I think it shows there's no warmth to be found in this place. It keeps the characters at a distance, I think. Don't get too attached
Can't promise you'll love it or even like it but it's good enough to watch at least once.
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Post by Dramatic Look Gopher on May 15, 2020 0:26:04 GMT
I guess I should come clean and admit I think Raging Bull is overrated. De Niro's performance was magnificent and he deserved the Oscar, no question about that, but I think the movie itself is meh.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on May 15, 2020 1:25:37 GMT
To this day I have never seen it. I watched a clip of a scene where Deniro is talking to himself in a mirror, and another clip where he's talking to some female on the other side of a fence. Honestly, it all looked boring. I don't know that I'd have the patience to sit through it. It's interesting. Even on top of its reputation the first thing that hit me was the black and white. The longer the film goes, the more it plays into the theme. I think it shows there's no warmth to be found in this place. It keeps the characters at a distance, I think. Don't get too attached
Can't promise you'll love it or even like it but it's good enough to watch at least once.
Well said. The B&W is a huge part of the film. Gives it a distant formality.
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Post by sdm3 on May 15, 2020 1:56:09 GMT
I wouldn’t call it the best film of the 80s but I’m far closer to considering it a masterpiece than overrated.
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Post by moviemouth on May 15, 2020 1:58:00 GMT
Great film and I don't think it is hard to sit through at all. I have to admit that I admire it much more for the directing and the acting then the story though. It is a masterpiece of filmmaking from the opening credits of Robert DeNiro dancing in the boxing ring and the last moment of the movie with Robert DeNiro punching the air.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 15, 2020 3:49:08 GMT
To this day I have never seen it. I watched a clip of a scene where Deniro is talking to himself in a mirror, and another clip where he's talking to some female on the other side of a fence. Honestly, it all looked boring. I don't know that I'd have the patience to sit through it. It's interesting. Even on top of its reputation the first thing that hit me was the black and white. The longer the film goes, the more it plays into the theme. I think it shows there's no warmth to be found in this place. It keeps the characters at a distance, I think. Don't get too attached
Can't promise you'll love it or even like it but it's good enough to watch at least once.
David Lynch's The Elephant Man from the same year did similar and the b&w cinematography in this is both surreal and delicious. It plays into the context of a dark and foreboding era, but does manage to kindle some warmth. I would watch Elephant Man any day over Raging Bull, if not just for the humanity found at the core of its central character. RB appears to have none of this.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 15, 2020 3:54:31 GMT
To this day I have never seen it. I watched a clip of a scene where Deniro is talking to himself in a mirror, and another clip where he's talking to some female on the other side of a fence. Honestly, it all looked boring. I don't know that I'd have the patience to sit through it. Stick to Rocky, if you don't want to be bored or depressed by a film about a boxer who treats the whole world like a ring and his unfunny standup comedy routines. It appears to me that DeNiro got all the accolades he did just for getting fat and ad-libbing his ballistic scenes.
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