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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 15, 2020 2:21:23 GMT
OK, this isn't a problem with this forum but is a problem I've been experiencing in general with Windows 10 since I've had it. The problem is sporadic and I can't tell there's any pattern to when it happens. Basically, Windows Explorer just stops loading thumbnails, and instead I'll get a green "loading bar" that never actually loads. Some folders might still display for a while, perhaps those that are in memory, but eventually they'll all stop loading too. The only solution I've found is to uninstall my graphics driver (Nvidia GTX 1070), restart my computer, and let the graphics driver reinstall.
Though it's not THAT big of a deal to fix, it's rather annoying and seems to be happening more frequently lately. It especially sucks when I have multiple windows open and have to close everything to restart and then reopen everything again. I was just wondering if anyone has any idea what could be causing the problem, or have an idea for how to stop it, or even a better idea for how to fix it when it happens. I don't recall ever having this problem on previous versions of Windows.
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Post by Admin on May 15, 2020 2:27:58 GMT
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 15, 2020 2:35:04 GMT
Admin I've bookmarked that and will try it next time the problem occurs, though it seems even that solution requires restarting the computer, so not sure if it's any easier than uninstalling the graphics driver and restarting.
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Post by Admin on May 15, 2020 2:43:00 GMT
Admin I've bookmarked that and will try it next time the problem occurs, though it seems even that solution requires restarting the computer, so not sure if it's any easier than uninstalling the graphics driver and restarting. It sounds more like a problem with your icon cache than your graphics driver. Tenforum's solution is essentially just an easy way to delete and rebuild your IconCache.db file. I've had to do it a few times over the years and the batch file works like a charm.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 15, 2020 2:46:48 GMT
Admin I've bookmarked that and will try it next time the problem occurs, though it seems even that solution requires restarting the computer, so not sure if it's any easier than uninstalling the graphics driver and restarting. It sounds more like a problem with your icon cache than your graphics driver. Tenforum's solution is essentially just an easy way to delete and rebuild your IconCache.db file. I've had to do it a few times over the years and the batch file works like a charm. I actually found the graphics driver solution from others who've had the same problem, but nobody seems to know what causes it or how to prevent it. It does seem more likely to be a problem with the icon cache, but the graphics driver thing does fix it. I just hate having to close, restart, and reopen everything. Maybe it's just a lesson that I keep too many windows open.
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Post by Admin on May 15, 2020 2:53:58 GMT
It sounds more like a problem with your icon cache than your graphics driver. Tenforum's solution is essentially just an easy way to delete and rebuild your IconCache.db file. I've had to do it a few times over the years and the batch file works like a charm. I actually found the graphics driver solution from others who've had the same problem, but nobody seems to know what causes it or how to prevent it. It does seem more likely to be a problem with the icon cache, but the graphics driver thing does fix it. I just hate having to close, restart, and reopen everything. Maybe it's just a lesson that I keep too many windows open. Unless the graphics driver thing is rebuilding your thumbnail/icon cache, I would dare say it isn't really fixing it, but rather clearing the ones that may be in its memory. I'm still spitballing here, by the way, but I say try the batch file anyway. Couldn't hurt.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 15, 2020 2:59:48 GMT
I actually found the graphics driver solution from others who've had the same problem, but nobody seems to know what causes it or how to prevent it. It does seem more likely to be a problem with the icon cache, but the graphics driver thing does fix it. I just hate having to close, restart, and reopen everything. Maybe it's just a lesson that I keep too many windows open. Unless the graphics driver thing is rebuilding your thumbnail/icon cache, I would dare say it isn't really fixing it, but rather clearing the ones that may be in its memory. I'm still spitballing here, by the way, but I say try the batch file anyway. Couldn't hurt. I will try that batch file next time. I've had this happen like three times in the past week, which is pretty extraordinary as typically it might happens once a month or less.
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Post by mslo79 on May 15, 2020 11:36:40 GMT
This probably ain't specific to the issue your experiencing. but as a general rule you want to keep your GPU driver up to date (or at least reasonably updated since they can contain security fixes etc)... www.geforce.com/drivers ; just do the manual search assuming your know what OS your using etc. but you definitely should not have to reinstall a graphics driver for rebuilding thumbnail cache etc. p.s. but what the admin said about icon cache sounds more in the ball park of the issue than GPU driver. |
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Post by deembastille on May 15, 2020 17:23:32 GMT
I have found that Microsoft edge runs quite well. It's my main go to now for the internet.
Google chrome is also good.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 15, 2020 23:34:42 GMT
This probably ain't specific to the issue your experiencing. but as a general rule you want to keep your GPU driver up to date (or at least reasonably updated since they can contain security fixes etc)... www.geforce.com/drivers ; just do the manual search assuming your know what OS your using etc. but you definitely should not have to reinstall a graphics driver for rebuilding thumbnail cache etc. p.s. but what the admin said about icon cache sounds more in the ball park of the issue than GPU driver. I do try to keep my graphics driver up to date. I usually check about once a month to see if there's anything new.
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Post by mslo79 on May 15, 2020 23:38:55 GMT
deembastille In terms of market share of browsers on desktop/laptop computers, Chrome is the clear cut #1 as no one is even close... 1)Chrome - 68.06% 2)Firefox - 8.21% 3)Internet Explorer - 6.68% 4)Edge - 6.44% those are the only browsers with at least 5%+ market share. but between those four browsers that makes up nearly 90% of the browser market share. personally I have always preferred Firefox in the long term. but I do have Chrome installed as a backup browser. p.s. I suspect you misread the OP as he was referring to 'Windows Explorer', not web browsers like Internet Explorer etc.
Yeah, that's fine.
even every few months or so would probably be good enough as I would imagine someone taking advantage of GPU security flaws is probably a lot less likely than browser/OS exploits as keeping those up to date is much more important for your general security online.
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Post by deembastille on May 16, 2020 4:12:55 GMT
deembastille In terms of market share of browsers on desktop/laptop computers, Chrome is the clear cut #1 as no one is even close... 1)Chrome - 68.06% 2)Firefox - 8.21% 3)Internet Explorer - 6.68% 4)Edge - 6.44% those are the only browsers with at least 5%+ market share. but between those four browsers that makes up nearly 90% of the browser market share. personally I have always preferred Firefox in the long term. but I do have Chrome installed as a backup browser. p.s. I suspect you misread the OP as he was referring to 'Windows Explorer', not web browsers like Internet Explorer etc. Yeah, that's fine. even every few months or so would probably be good enough as I would imagine someone taking advantage of GPU security flaws is probably a lot less likely than browser/OS exploits as keeping those up to date is much more important for your general security online.
Yeah. Sorry. I have never heard it called windows explorer. I just looked the term up now and what came back is FILE explorer. Which is what I have always known file explorer to be. |
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 16, 2020 5:02:07 GMT
deembastille In terms of market share of browsers on desktop/laptop computers, Chrome is the clear cut #1 as no one is even close... 1)Chrome - 68.06% 2)Firefox - 8.21% 3)Internet Explorer - 6.68% 4)Edge - 6.44% those are the only browsers with at least 5%+ market share. but between those four browsers that makes up nearly 90% of the browser market share. personally I have always preferred Firefox in the long term. but I do have Chrome installed as a backup browser. p.s. I suspect you misread the OP as he was referring to 'Windows Explorer', not web browsers like Internet Explorer etc. Yeah, that's fine. even every few months or so would probably be good enough as I would imagine someone taking advantage of GPU security flaws is probably a lot less likely than browser/OS exploits as keeping those up to date is much more important for your general security online.
Yeah. Sorry. I have never heard it called windows explorer. I just looked the term up now and what came back is FILE explorer. Which is what I have always known file explorer to be. It's still called Windows Explorer in Task Manager.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 18, 2020 4:42:16 GMT
Admin Got a chance to try out your "Rebuild Icon Cache" fix today and it definitely worked. So given that the problem seems to have something to do with the icon cache, any idea on how to, errr, permanently fix the problem? Any idea why the icon cache gets fucked up so that Windows Explorer stops loading altogether?
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Post by Admin on May 18, 2020 4:58:37 GMT
Admin Got a chance to try out your "Rebuild Icon Cache" fix today and it definitely worked. So given that the problem seems to have something to do with the icon cache, any idea on how to, errr, permanently fix the problem? Any idea why the icon cache gets fucked up so that Windows Explorer stops loading altogether? I don't know what causes the cache to corrupt, but I'm glad the fix worked, even if just temporarily. 
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 18, 2020 5:06:00 GMT
Admin Got a chance to try out your "Rebuild Icon Cache" fix today and it definitely worked. So given that the problem seems to have something to do with the icon cache, any idea on how to, errr, permanently fix the problem? Any idea why the icon cache gets fucked up so that Windows Explorer stops loading altogether? I don't know what causes the cache to corrupt, but I'm glad the fix worked, even if just temporarily. Well, if nothing else the fix is much quicker than having to go to device manager to uninstall the graphics driver. 
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Post by Admin on May 18, 2020 5:15:03 GMT
I don't know what causes the cache to corrupt, but I'm glad the fix worked, even if just temporarily. Well, if nothing else the fix is much quicker than having to go to device manager to uninstall the graphics driver. Indeed. If you haven't already, you can save the batch file to your hard drive and just run it from there as needed. Very handy. 👍
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Post by mslo79 on May 18, 2020 5:47:16 GMT
on a side note... if your computer runs so-so, or has random glitches etc, as a general rule it's best just to wipe the hard drive and install your OS clean once in a while. this way you can guarantee things are in optimal running order. then just be careful on what you allow to install on it in the future and then you can likely have a good running computer for years and won't have to wipe it as often.
while I am not saying you have to do this in your situation, since your computer may very well be still in decent running order, I think many try avoiding that (as in wipe the hard drive and install the OS clean) when they are best off just doing it and being done with it. because once someones computer gets out of whack beyond a certain point, it's simply not worth troubleshooting and will end up being quicker to just wipe and reinstall from scratch which might burn up a couple hours of your time depending on how much stuff you have to reinstall/tweak etc. but just to get things in decent running order it probably would not take more than a hour or so of your time.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 18, 2020 5:58:57 GMT
Well, if nothing else the fix is much quicker than having to go to device manager to uninstall the graphics driver. Indeed. If you haven't already, you can save the batch file to your hard drive and just run it from there as needed. Very handy. 👍 That's what I did. I've got in on my Desktop. 
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on May 18, 2020 6:02:17 GMT
on a side note... if your computer runs so-so, or has random glitches etc, as a general rule it's best just to wipe the hard drive and install your OS clean once in a while. this way you can guarantee things are in optimal running order. then just be careful on what you allow to install on it in the future and then you can likely have a good running computer for years and won't have to wipe it as often. while I am not saying you have to do this in your situation, since your computer may very well be still in decent running order, I think many try avoiding that (as in wipe the hard drive and install the OS clean) when they are best off just doing it and being done with it. because once someones computer gets out of whack beyond a certain point, it's simply not worth troubleshooting and will end up being quicker to just wipe and reinstall from scratch which might burn up a couple hours of your time depending on how much stuff you have to reinstall/tweak etc. but just to get things in decent running order it probably would not take more than a hour or so of your time. My PC runs fine except for this one thing. I'm also pretty careful about what I install on the main drive that Windows runs on to avoid the very problem you mention.
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