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Post by thenolan on May 23, 2020 19:58:24 GMT
The research has shown James Mangold is no MCU fan. He does not think Jackman should return unless it is worth it and that is something Mangold does not think MCU is. yikes. sports.yahoo.com/james-mangold-hugh-jackman-wolverine-211438493.htmlI have to agree with Mangold. it does seem any Jackaman appearance in the MCU will just be about hype and noise and for cash and nothing of any quality. Though Mangold framed things nicely, I think this just shows how much dislike he has for the MCU as a director. he thinks MCU movies are empty, superficial and questions their quality. I hope Jackman does not return too. I think many xmen fans can make peace that Logan and DOFP were the good send off and they can treat mcu xmen like star wars fans treats disney star wars but any return to the MCU could be a stain to those movies, especially for many iconic actors like Jackman, Mckellen and Stewart. Also what is there for Jackman? I remember the hardship and brutality wolverine went through in X2, DOFP and until the end with Logan, we know Disney movies are watered down , childish and more lighthearted compared to those films, so i think it will be a step down for jackman even from a writing and performance part to make any return to the MCU? I dont even think his jokes will be funny. I hope Jackman listens to such a wise talented director like Mangold who used films like Logan to expose the shortcomings of MCU movies and showed why films like Ford vs Ferrari were true cinema compared to avengers endgame in 2019. Mangold is talking sense. I don't even think Jackman should do a cameo. |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 23, 2020 20:12:25 GMT
thenolan makes a negative thread about the MCU, what else is new?
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Post by thenolan on May 23, 2020 20:39:17 GMT
thenolan makes a negative thread about the MCU, what else is new? its not being negative. Mangold is giving his truthful thoughts and what he is saying makes a lot of sense.seriously if Jackman returns what is there for him? can you try to answer that? MCU could not even give RDJ a Logan? RDJ time travelling in Endgame was more about fun and making peace with daddy compared to jackman in DOFP who brutally suffered and nearly died when he went time travelling. We have already seen Jackman suffer and push the limits of the character to places MCU cant go. this is fact and that is what Mangold is talking about. Additionally Mangold is a story teller and arty-director first. I am not surprised he hates the idea and thinks it will just be a cash grab 
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 23, 2020 20:42:33 GMT
thenolan makes a negative thread about the MCU, what else is new? its not being negative. Mangold is giving his truthful thoughts and what he is saying makes a lot of sense.seriously if Jackman returns what is there for him? can you try to answer that? MCU could not even give RDJ a Logan? RDJ time travelling in Endgame was more about fun and making peace with daddy compared to jackman in DOFP who brutally suffered and nearly died when he went time travelling. We have already seen Jackman suffer and push the limits of the character to places MCU cant go. this is fact and that is what Mangold is talking about. Additionally Mangold is a story teller and arty-director first. I am not surprised he hates the idea and thinks it will just be a cash grab Didn’t read that. Sorry.
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Post by thenolan on May 23, 2020 20:45:45 GMT
Even if I should exclude Logan. DOFP is also a good send off to wolverine.if anyone wants a 50/50 chance that he got a happy ending to the depressing stuff of logan. this is it.
Yes even if the DOFP says the future is not really set , after this scene I think i can still take this end that things could be okay for wolverine who suffered so much and deserved a happy ending.
Looking at the evidence from both last main xmen films Jackman was in (dofp and logan) Jackman should not return. why return to a franchise that has mostly comedic lighthearted action disney flicks compared to DOFP and Logan that were adult dystopian dramas?
its like asking a child with an earned master's degree to go back to high school and redo junior year.
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Post by thenolan on May 23, 2020 20:48:01 GMT
its not being negative. Mangold is giving his truthful thoughts and what he is saying makes a lot of sense.seriously if Jackman returns what is there for him? can you try to answer that? MCU could not even give RDJ a Logan? RDJ time travelling in Endgame was more about fun and making peace with daddy compared to jackman in DOFP who brutally suffered and nearly died when he went time travelling. We have already seen Jackman suffer and push the limits of the character to places MCU cant go. this is fact and that is what Mangold is talking about. Additionally Mangold is a story teller and arty-director first. I am not surprised he hates the idea and thinks it will just be a cash grab Didn’t read that. Sorry. No worries. Mangold case seem to appeal to the more intellectual mature comic book fan base.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 23, 2020 20:54:58 GMT
No worries. Mangold case seem to appeal to the more intellectual mature comic book fan base. Read that and lol’d.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 21:01:25 GMT
No worries. Mangold case seem to appeal to the more intellectual mature comic book fan base. Lol intellectual. There's nothing intellectual about your posts. They're all the same MCU hate threads. Nothing new. |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 23, 2020 21:07:17 GMT
No worries. Mangold case seem to appeal to the more intellectual mature comic book fan base. Lol intellectual. There's nothing intellectual about your posts. They're all the same MCU hate threads. Nothing new. An intellectual who can’t type properly. Derp.
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Post by politicidal on May 23, 2020 21:21:02 GMT
I hope Jackaman thinks deep for any MCU return as well since I dunno who the hell Jackaman is.
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Post by thenolan on May 23, 2020 21:59:01 GMT
Mangold is only saying what is right. Let's stick to that. You all have yet to answer what is in the artistic gain for Jackman?
its not the story telling since MCU cannot tell the best of the Jackman's stories. I remember this first scene we see Jackman's claws. you know you are not watching a Disney theme park MCU flick. The tone and directing is just so gritty and even western themed. this is before Logan that was actually western.
Jackman is rich already and still gets some good roles in hollywood, so it is not really for the money.
X-Men made Jackman a star and help propel the comic genre for mockery to serious. MCU has done the opposite.
MCU cannot give him all these things again, so why should he return?
No chance he should.
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Post by thenolan on May 23, 2020 22:01:34 GMT
I hope Jackaman thinks deep for any MCU return as well since I dunno who the hell Jackaman is. Hugh Jackman.
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Post by lacaboy on May 23, 2020 22:10:45 GMT
I hope Jackaman thinks deep for any MCU return as well since I dunno who the hell Jackaman is. Hugh Jackman. How about Steve Blum as Wolverine instead? |
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Post by thenolan on May 23, 2020 22:24:38 GMT
How about Steve Blum as Wolverine instead? Can wolverine even be in the MCU? MCU has kept Kingpin Daredevil The Punisher Iron Fist Luke Cage Away from movies. Most of their gritty xmen twins was on netflix. We also know mcu xmen will be a cabon copy of Avengers and GOTG movies meaning compared to some of the best Jackman films like Logan or DOFP or X2, MCU X-Men will be parody movies to those films in direct comparison. So from those 2 points, Jackman is the artistic endpoint of Wolverine. there is nothing that can come after him than can be better. it is a statistical fact and that is what Mangold is stressing when he says anything that feels empty , low quality and not up to the story telling standard of Jackman's farewell as logan, Jackman should pass even if the pay is huge. yikes.
Honestly we need more outspoken directors like James Mangold, where it is not all about money.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on May 23, 2020 22:29:58 GMT
How about Steve Blum as Wolverine instead? Jckaman
How do you even make such a typo?
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Post by lacaboy on May 23, 2020 22:32:01 GMT
How about Steve Blum as Wolverine instead? Can wolverine even be in the MCU? MCU has kept Kingpin Daredevil The Punisher Iron Fist Luke Cage Away from movies. Most of their gritty xmen twins was on netflix. We also know mcu xmen will be a cabon copy of Avengers and GOTG movies meaning compared to some of the best Jackman films like Logan or DOFP or X2, MCU X-Men will be parody movies to those films in direct comparison. So from those 2 points, Jackman is the artistic endpoint of Wolverine. there is nothing that can come after him than can be better. it is a statistical fact and that is what Mangold is stressing when he says anything that feels empty , low quality and not up to the story telling standard of Jckaman's farewell as logan, Jackman should pass even if the pay is huge. yikes.
Honestly we need more outspoken directors like James Mangold, where it is not all about money.
Feige was executive producer on Wolverine and The X-Men: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_and_the_X-Men_(TV_series) |
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Post by thenolan on May 23, 2020 22:41:18 GMT
Can wolverine even be in the MCU? MCU has kept Kingpin Daredevil The Punisher Iron Fist Luke Cage Away from movies. Most of their gritty xmen twins was on netflix. We also know mcu xmen will be a cabon copy of Avengers and GOTG movies meaning compared to some of the best Jackman films like Logan or DOFP or X2, MCU X-Men will be parody movies to those films in direct comparison. So from those 2 points, Jackman is the artistic endpoint of Wolverine. there is nothing that can come after him than can be better. it is a statistical fact and that is what Mangold is stressing when he says anything that feels empty , low quality and not up to the story telling standard of Jckaman's farewell as logan, Jackman should pass even if the pay is huge. yikes.
Honestly we need more outspoken directors like James Mangold, where it is not all about money.
Feige was executive producer on Wolverine and The X-Men: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolverine_and_the_X-Men_(TV_series)Feige stood by and let the series get cancelled to be replaced by Disney garbage marvel animations? Feige stood by and let Thor be ruined. One of the best roles Jackman's ever had as wolverine was guiding Xavier back from depression, alcoholism and drug abuse in Days of future past, which made the huge bulk of the film. this is why DOFP is a drama and MCU films are action driven cgi flicks. that is not feige's style. Now we factually know Feige is not capable of this kind of story telling because MCU does not allow any serious convincing human flaws like a depressed abuse storylines. this is the reason thor is joke in endgame and iron man 2 and iron man 3 are weird movies. Feige may have had some talent but even since he started working for mcu disney he is nothing more but a cooperate suit following a disney kid friendly formula. please even the director of DOFP and Mangold did not want their movies to be feel like Feige mcu films. they did not like the tone of feige films.Feige will ruin Jackman's legacy. I dont even think he can get Tobey Maguire because of how bad his mcu spiderman is as disney iron-child, Jackman is a bigger fish to catch.
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Post by lacaboy on May 23, 2020 22:47:21 GMT
Feige stood by and let the series get cancelled to be replaced by Disney garbage marvel animations? Feige stood by and let Thor be ruined. One of the best roles Jackman's ever had as wolverine was guiding Xavier back from depression, alcoholism and drug abuse in Days of future past, which made the huge bulk of the film. this is why DOFP is a drama and MCU films are action driven cgi flicks. that is not feige's style. Now we factually know Feige is not capable of this kind of story telling because MCU does not allow any serious convincing human flaws like a depressed abuse storylines. this is the reason thor is joke in endgame and iron man 2 and iron man 3 are weird movies. Feige may have had some talent but even since he started working for mcu disney he is nothing more but a cooperate suit following a disney kid friendly formula. please even the director of DOFP and Mangold did not want their movies to be feel like Feige mcu films. they did not like the tone of feige films.Feige will ruin Jackman's legacy. I dont even think he can get Tobey Maguire because of how bad his mcu spiderman is as disney iron-child, Jackman is a bigger fish to catch. If you met Feige for dinner what would you want to fucking talk about? |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 23:23:59 GMT
Did he think Hugh Jackman was going to come back, though? Nobody think he's going to come back. That's just silly.
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Post by sostie on May 23, 2020 23:52:03 GMT
The research has shown James Mangold is no MCU fan. He does not think Jackman should return unless it is worth it and that is something Mangold does not think MCU is. yikes. sports.yahoo.com/james-mangold-hugh-jackman-wolverine-211438493.htmlI have to agree with Mangold. it does seem any Jackaman appearance in the MCU will just be about hype and noise and for cash and nothing of any quality. Though Mangold framed things nicely, I think this just shows how much dislike he has for the MCU as a director. he thinks MCU movies are empty, superficial and questions their quality. I hope Jackman does not return too. I think many xmen fans can make peace that Logan and DOFP were the good send off and they can treat mcu xmen like star wars fans treats disney star wars but any return to the MCU could be a stain to those movies, especially for many iconic actors like Jackman, Mckellen and Stewart. Also what is there for Jackman? I remember the hardship and brutality wolverine went through in X2, DOFP and until the end with Logan, we know Disney movies are watered down , childish and more lighthearted compared to those films, so i think it will be a step down for jackman even from a writing and performance part to make any return to the MCU? I dont even think his jokes will be funny. I hope Jackman listens to such a wise talented director like Mangold who used films like Logan to expose the shortcomings of MCU movies and showed why films like Ford vs Ferrari were true cinema compared to avengers endgame in 2019. Mangold is talking sense. I don't even think Jackman should do a cameo. Basically.... Interviewer: Do you think Jackman will return to the role of Wolverine in the MCU despite no indication that he would do and no indication he'd be asked to,. Mangold: I can only guess he would not. What a pointless article I also doubt Hugh Jackaman would return either
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