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Post by bud47 on May 24, 2020 2:28:00 GMT
Nothing to see here folks. Just summers8 doin' his thang. Just lol and move on.
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Post by ThatGuy on May 24, 2020 14:27:37 GMT
I'm thinking he's hoping that Logan is the end of Jackman's Wolverine legacy (even though Apocalypse screwed that).
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Post by dazz on May 25, 2020 5:11:37 GMT
The research has shown James Mangold is no MCU fan. He does not think Jackman should return unless it is worth it and that is something Mangold does not think MCU is. yikes. sports.yahoo.com/james-mangold-hugh-jackman-wolverine-211438493.htmlI have to agree with Mangold. it does seem any Jackaman appearance in the MCU will just be about hype and noise and for cash and nothing of any quality. Though Mangold framed things nicely, I think this just shows how much dislike he has for the MCU as a director. he thinks MCU movies are empty, superficial and questions their quality. I hope Jackman does not return too. I think many xmen fans can make peace that Logan and DOFP were the good send off and they can treat mcu xmen like star wars fans treats disney star wars but any return to the MCU could be a stain to those movies, especially for many iconic actors like Jackman, Mckellen and Stewart. Also what is there for Jackman? I remember the hardship and brutality wolverine went through in X2, DOFP and until the end with Logan, we know Disney movies are watered down , childish and more lighthearted compared to those films, so i think it will be a step down for jackman even from a writing and performance part to make any return to the MCU? I dont even think his jokes will be funny. I hope Jackman listens to such a wise talented director like Mangold who used films like Logan to expose the shortcomings of MCU movies and showed why films like Ford vs Ferrari were true cinema compared to avengers endgame in 2019. Mangold is talking sense. I don't even think Jackman should do a cameo. He didn't say that.
He didn't say that either.
Didn't say that one either so you are agreeing with nothing, sound about right.
Nope that's the same tired bullshit you say, repeatedly ad nauseum and have to lie about famous people's quotes to try and justify yourself, as per usual.
Yeah because survivors guilt, PTSD, child abuse, and a whole litany of other emotional issues is so lighthearted and childish, as opposed to DOFP where Mystique was going to doom her entire species to a war that would leave them and humanity extinct all because Charles always told her what to do, now that is so deep and meaningful.
He probably will which means he wont do anything which you say because Mangold said nothing of the sort or thing you inferred, because well he's a grown up with rational thought, your a mentally deficient bed wetting child who lacks even basic reading comprehension abilities.
Though I agree I think Jackman should be done with Wolverine, though it would be funny if they had him in an MCU movie as himself playing one of the other superheroes for a movie, probably in Deadpool 3 or something.
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Post by thenolan on May 25, 2020 9:33:11 GMT
Did he think Hugh Jackman was going to come back, though? Nobody think he's going to come back. That's just silly. funny enough Jackman's did say he would come back is ask. jackman is more of a gracious guy compared to someone like Ian Mckellen. who once said he would never knowing want to be caught on purpose in a silly superhero movie.
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Post by thenolan on May 25, 2020 9:34:05 GMT
Nothing to see here folks. Just summers8 doin' his thang. Just lol and move on. sorry not summers8.its too bad, MCU fans have no response to mangold. it just shows he is right. Maybe mangold is a mcu hater too? lol. Wonder why you cant never about MCU with artistic richness. You prove Mangold's point that MCU is empty.
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Post by thenolan on May 25, 2020 9:37:12 GMT
I'm thinking he's hoping that Logan is the end of Jackman's Wolverine legacy (even though Apocalypse screwed that). Logan was set in 2023. after Apocalypse. It also came out in 2017 after Apocalypse. Logan also took place in a different timeline. Apocalypse created a new timeline You may want to stick to truth.I guess you can't because sticking to facts and truth only exposes how bad MCU is that not even Mangold wants a return for the character. That is the legacy, classic xmen should distance from MCU.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2020 10:20:45 GMT
Nothing to see here folks. Just summers8 doin' his thang. Just lol and move on. sorry not summers8.its too bad, MCU fans have no response to mangold. it just shows he is right. Maybe mangold is a mcu hater too? lol. Wonder why you cant never about MCU with artistic richness. You prove Mangold's point that MCU is empty. It's quite simple really. Arguing with someone as stubborn as you is pointless.
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Post by thenolan on May 25, 2020 10:54:43 GMT
sorry not summers8.its too bad, MCU fans have no response to mangold. it just shows he is right. Maybe mangold is a mcu hater too? lol. Wonder why you cant never about MCU with artistic richness. You prove Mangold's point that MCU is empty.It's quite simple really. Arguing with someone as stubborn as you is pointless. This reminds me of the so called scorsese controversy. MCU fans just attacked people and called people names. there was no genuine real response to what matrin said, same is said here. i wonder why mcu fans cant make any good points on why mangold is wrong. stop trying to derail the thread. Mangold deserves that respect. anyway, I hope Jackman listens.
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Post by dazz on May 25, 2020 12:59:38 GMT
Nothing to see here folks. Just summers8 doin' his thang. Just lol and move on. sorry not summers8.its too bad, MCU fans have no response to mangold. it just shows he is right. Maybe mangold is a mcu hater too? lol. Wonder why you cant never about MCU with artistic richness. You prove Mangold's point that MCU is empty. Ah yes the intellectual speaks, sadly as usual you speak bollocks, and make up things you claim other people say, you sad little lunkhead
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Post by dazz on May 25, 2020 13:16:32 GMT
It's quite simple really. Arguing with someone as stubborn as you is pointless. This reminds me of the so called scorsese controversy. MCU fans just attacked people and called people names. there was no genuine real response to what matrin said, same is said here. i wonder why mcu fans cant make any good points on why mangold is wrong. stop trying to derail the thread. Mangold deserves that respect. anyway, I hope Jackman listens. Well hilariously all of this is a load of tripe, people did have genuine responses to the Scorsese debate, such as Marty being full of it by claiming that superhero movies pushed The Irishman out of theatres and no studio would back it which is why he had to go to Netflix, when in actuality he had studio funding of $150m for production but he kept increasing the cost months before filming was to take place and the studios knew a Scorsese movie was not going to make enough at the box office to justify any higher a cost based on his previous top hits, and that he went to Netflix because they offered him the most money as other studios did offer to take the film, just not for $150m like he wanted.
Another point was he made asinine statements based on self admitted limited knowledge, he said he never watched any superhero movie properly, which was a point to you being a liar, Scorsese never singled out the MCU as being bad, he said he didn't like any of the superhero movies, his points were also more based on blockbusters, not superhero movies specifically and not the MCU alone, despite your ignorant claims to the contrary.
See the thing is the name calling is directed at you for being s buffoon, you manufacture these points, you read into situation only what suits your own narrative and behave very much like an ignorant dipstick, you never actually challenge any points with even the slightest degree of competence or intellect, despite constantly proclaiming yourself to be one, simply put you make shit up and are a petulant little brat who no one takes seriously and that's on you, not everyone else.
Mangolds "point" is he doesn't think Jackman should return to the role unless the story is interesting to Jackman and he feels a desire to be the character again, and not to take the role if offered just for the money, which Mangold even said is possible, YOU are the one saying everything else, and why would anyone disagree with MANGOLD'S point? Yeah Jackman should only return if he wants to play the character again and not because he wants a $20m payday, but Mangold's point is also based on why Hugh left the character, he's getting older and playing Wolverine takes more and more work and Jackman doesn't want to have to do the extreme workouts and diets to be in Wolverine shape anymore, your "points" are based on you just dislike the MCU and are so insecure in yourself you have to make up stories of other people sharing your opinion whilst burying your head in the sand when people actually challenge your demented illusions.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2020 19:22:11 GMT
It's quite simple really. Arguing with someone as stubborn as you is pointless. This reminds me of the so called scorsese controversy. MCU fans just attacked people and called people names. there was no genuine real response to what matrin said, same is said here. i wonder why mcu fans cant make any good points on why mangold is wrong. stop trying to derail the thread. Mangold deserves that respect. anyway, I hope Jackman listens. Stop trying to derail the thread eh? Oh I could never derail a thread that never had any coherence in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2020 20:52:18 GMT
Did he think Hugh Jackman was going to come back, though? Nobody think he's going to come back. That's just silly. funny enough Jackman's did say he would come back is ask. jackman is more of a gracious guy compared to someone like Ian Mckellen. who once said he would never knowing want to be caught on purpose in a silly superhero movie. It seemed like the send-off for that version of Logan, dead being analogous to retirement. It's interesting Jackman would do that if asked but I'm in no hurry to see him asked. He does seem like a gracious dude, what with playing into the meta feud between himself and Deadpool.
I don't think it would be a good idea to bring him back, but I suppose stranger things have happened.
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Post by miike80 on May 27, 2020 9:30:30 GMT
It's quite simple really. Arguing with someone as stubborn as you is pointless. This reminds me of the so called scorsese controversy. MCU fans just attacked people and called people names. there was no genuine real response to what matrin said, same is said here. i wonder why mcu fans cant make any good points on why mangold is wrong. stop trying to derail the thread. Mangold deserves that respect. anyway, I hope Jackman listens. I love how you always bring Scorsese up, even if he repeatedly said that he doesn't know which is DC and which is Marvel, he's just not into comic book movies. You think he's crazy about Nolan's Batman trilogy? Or any X-men for that matter. He didn't ever bother to see Joker, and he was attached at some point. Until he found out that it's gonna be just a cheap rip-off of his movies
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Post by sostie on May 27, 2020 23:30:00 GMT
This reminds me of the so called scorsese controversy. MCU fans just attacked people and called people names. there was no genuine real response to what matrin said, same is said here. i wonder why mcu fans cant make any good points on why mangold is wrong. stop trying to derail the thread. Mangold deserves that respect. anyway, I hope Jackman listens. I love how you always bring Scorsese up, even if he repeatedly said that he doesn't know which is DC and which is Marvel, he's just not into comic book movies. You think he's crazy about Nolan's Batman trilogy? Or any X-men for that matter. He didn't ever bother to see Joker The list of Scorsese's 1041 favourite films contains one CBM.....Raimi's Spider-Man. No other block busters after ET except Spidey. No Nolan films. No Mangold films. Of course none of that matters when you have a single comment you can twist to suit your "argument". Even funnier is that he sometimes lumps himself in with cineastes like Scorsese, when in truth he wouldn't know a Pressburger from a cheeseburger.
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