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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 27, 2020 5:23:30 GMT
Because they haven't got anything better to do, other than attempt to rearrange God's rule, in some sort of vain attempt to make something "meaningful" out of it, as obvious and blatant as they are.
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Post by gameboy on May 27, 2020 5:30:18 GMT
Because they haven't got anything better to do, other than attempt to rearrange God's rule, in some sort of vain attempt to make something "meaningful" out of it, as obvious and blatant as they are. No, that's not it, Toasty. 
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Post by onethreetwo on May 27, 2020 5:42:19 GMT
Different denominations do that? I didn't know that. You mean they rearrange the order? Isn't the order in the Bible?
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Post by gameboy on May 27, 2020 5:57:05 GMT
Different denominations do that? I didn't know that. You mean they rearrange the order? Isn't the order in the Bible?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 6:23:48 GMT
'Christians' mould the ten commandments and anything else they want in the Bible to suit their own wishes.
EG... Evangelicals now trying to reconfigure "Thou shalt not kill" to "Thou shalt not murder"... Because it gives them wriggle room to justify killings they approve of.
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Post by orkrdrkr on May 27, 2020 6:29:17 GMT
Different denominations do that? I didn't know that. You mean they rearrange the order? Isn't the order in the Bible? I would guess that he is probably referring to the abolishment or moving of the Sabbath day within most denominations and the dispute between Seventh-day Adventists and the rest of the Christians. Then the Jehovah's Witnesses, although many don't count them as Christians, probably think that believing in the Trinity breaks the first commandment. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 27, 2020 6:35:40 GMT
Because they haven't got anything better to do, other than attempt to rearrange God's rule, in some sort of vain attempt to make something "meaningful" out of it, as obvious and blatant as they are. No, that's not it, Toasty. I command you to prove it Gamey.... 
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Post by gameboy on May 27, 2020 7:02:37 GMT
'Christians' mould the ten commandments and anything else they want in the Bible to suit their own wishes. EG... Evangelicals now trying to reconfigure "Thou shalt not kill" to "Thou shalt not murder"... Because it gives them wriggle room to justify killings they approve of. There has always been a difference between the terms "kill" and "murder". Evangelicals did not invent that. For example, when soldiers went to war it was never said they were murderers. And most Jews and Christians have never been pacifists who believed killing was never justified.
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Post by gameboy on May 27, 2020 7:06:50 GMT
Different denominations do that? I didn't know that. You mean they rearrange the order? Isn't the order in the Bible? I would guess that he is probably referring to the abolishment or moving of the Sabbath day within most denominations and the dispute between Seventh-day Adventists and the rest of the Christians. Then the Jehovah's Witnesses, although many don't count them as Christians, probably think that believing in the Trinity breaks the first commandment. No, it has nothing to do with the Sabbath. And no, Jehovah's Witnesses accept the First Commandment and are definitely Christian. The concept of the Trinity was invented in Rome and appears nowhere in the Bible. The Trinity is definitely not in the Ten Commandments.
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Post by gameboy on May 27, 2020 7:07:58 GMT
No, that's not it, Toasty. I command you to prove it Gamey.... I posted some of the real reasons above. 
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 7:16:56 GMT
'Christians' mould the ten commandments and anything else they want in the Bible to suit their own wishes. EG... Evangelicals now trying to reconfigure "Thou shalt not kill" to "Thou shalt not murder"... Because it gives them wriggle room to justify killings they approve of. There has always been a difference between the terms "kill" and "murder". Evangelicals did not invent that. For example, when soldiers went to war it was never said they were murderers. And most Jews and Christians have never been pacifists who believed killing was never justified. Fundos didn't invent the difference, but everyone knows it is "Thou shalt not kill'. Evangelicals are now twisting it to 'murder', because they like killing and need a way to self-justify killing. |
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Post by gameboy on May 27, 2020 7:36:46 GMT
There has always been a difference between the terms "kill" and "murder". Evangelicals did not invent that. For example, when soldiers went to war it was never said they were murderers. And most Jews and Christians have never been pacifists who believed killing was never justified. Fundos didn't invent the difference, but everyone knows it is "Thou shalt not kill'. Evangelicals are now twisting it to 'murder', because they like killing and need a way to self-justify killing. No, the Hebrews had several words for "kill". The Hebrew word in the Torah is closer to "murder". Evangelicals are a comparatively new sect. But Christians and Jews have always understood that "Thou shalt not kill" didn't prohibit killing in war or self defense or other reasons. There are also many Evangelicals who oppose the death penalty. www.nae.net/capital-punishment-2/
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Post by orkrdrkr on May 27, 2020 7:49:53 GMT
I would guess that he is probably referring to the abolishment or moving of the Sabbath day within most denominations and the dispute between Seventh-day Adventists and the rest of the Christians. Then the Jehovah's Witnesses, although many don't count them as Christians, probably think that believing in the Trinity breaks the first commandment. No, it has nothing to do with the Sabbath. And no, Jehovah's Witnesses accept the First Commandment and are definitely Christian. The concept of the Trinity was invented in Rome and appears nowhere in the Bible. The Trinity is definitely not in the Ten Commandments. My point was that Seventh-Day Adventists believe that the Jewish Sabbath must be observed on Saturday, and thus you could say that hence there is disagreement within Christian groups on that commandment. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. - Exodus 20:8 Is one of the ten commandments. I did not say that Jehova's Witnesses didn't accept the first commandment. I said that they would argue believing in Jesus as divine is breaking the first commandment. Most Christian denominations don't consider the JW as Christians, and I think that has to do with more than just dismissing the Trinity (they believe that Jesus is Michael the Archangel and that Jesus is in fact dead), but the JW consider them Babylon the Great anyway, so the question is if they care much.
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Post by Cody™ on May 27, 2020 8:02:52 GMT
'Christians' mould the ten commandments and anything else they want in the Bible to suit their own wishes. EG... Evangelicals now trying to reconfigure "Thou shalt not kill" to "Thou shalt not murder"... Because it gives them wriggle room to justify killings they approve of. “Thou shalt not murder” is closer to it’s original intended meaning. |
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Post by Cody™ on May 27, 2020 8:04:55 GMT
I would guess that he is probably referring to the abolishment or moving of the Sabbath day within most denominations and the dispute between Seventh-day Adventists and the rest of the Christians. Then the Jehovah's Witnesses, although many don't count them as Christians, probably think that believing in the Trinity breaks the first commandment. No, it has nothing to do with the Sabbath. And no, Jehovah's Witnesses accept the First Commandment and are definitely Christian. The concept of the Trinity was invented in Rome and appears nowhere in the Bible. The Trinity is definitely not in the Ten Commandments. Virtually every sentence you just typed is factually inaccurate. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 8:24:33 GMT
'Christians' mould the ten commandments and anything else they want in the Bible to suit their own wishes. EG... Evangelicals now trying to reconfigure "Thou shalt not kill" to "Thou shalt not murder"... Because it gives them wriggle room to justify killings they approve of. “Thou shalt not murder” is closer to it’s original intended meaning. 'Slaves' is closer to the original meaning for Jesus' disciples. 'Young woman' closer to description of Mary, not 'virgin'. People take which version suits their own wishes the most. Go out in any street and ask people to complete the sentence 'Thou shalt not...?' I guarantee you nearly everyone will say kill, not murder. |
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Post by Toasted Cheese on May 27, 2020 8:26:21 GMT
I command you to prove it Gamey.... I posted some of the real reasons above. “Real Reasons” 
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Post by Cody™ on May 27, 2020 8:45:21 GMT
“Thou shalt not murder” is closer to it’s original intended meaning. 'Slaves' is closer to the original meaning for Jesus' disciples. No, sorry, it isn’t. ' Another misconception. Archeology even shows that the Hebrew word “almah” refers to a virgin. The Septuagint, a Jewish translation of the Old Testament written in koine Greek which pre-dates Christianity also translates Almah as virgin. Irrelevant. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 8:53:28 GMT
'Slaves' is closer to the original meaning for Jesus' disciples. No, sorry, it isn’t. 'Another misconception. Archeology even shows that the Hebrew word “almah” refers to a virgin. The Septuagint, a Jewish translation of the Old Testament written in koine Greek which pre-dates Christianity also translates Almah as virgin. Irrelevant. It is the overwhelming Christian understanding, "not kill". Very relevant. |
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Post by Cody™ on May 27, 2020 9:28:50 GMT
No, sorry, it isn’t. 'Another misconception. Archeology even shows that the Hebrew word “almah” refers to a virgin. The Septuagint, a Jewish translation of the Old Testament written in koine Greek which pre-dates Christianity also translates Almah as virgin. Irrelevant. It is the overwhelming Christian understanding, "not kill". Very relevant. Not really. You originally implied that evangelicals were being disingenuous by moving the goalposts of thou shalt not kill to murder for convenience sake. I already clarified to you that murder is far closer to the original Hebrew meaning and context. So Evangelicals are right, and you’re wrong. |
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