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Post by thenolan on Jun 2, 2020 20:51:54 GMT
to be fair marvel does not let any director direct. they all follow a formula but kinberg and mcu are a good fit. what you said about dark Phoenix equates to most of the mcu movies, it is even worse with captain marvel and ant man, it applies, this is why mcu gets trashed by many directors and dark phoenix was trashed. You don't even know what directing is but you keep acting like a movie buff? Have you seen 10 movies that are unrelated to comic books? So how many directors have quit mcu or talked about their bad experience with the MCU? You know how Spiderman 1, X-Men 1 and Blade 1 all have a different looks the first time you see them? Spiderman 1 = Expensive fantasy blockbuster x-men 1= Gritty realism Blade= Gothic underground feel. How come all mcu films look like theme parks and they all look the same. If MCU were actually using directors, the case will factually be different. its like school. mcu is plagiarising. its an offence in school. it make sense why so many directors see mcu movies as offensive. plagiarism is offensive.
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Post by bud47 on Jun 2, 2020 21:07:13 GMT
This guy screwed up the Dark Phoenix saga (The Infinity War for X-Men) not once but twice. If that is the result of Kinberg's love for these characters, being a so-called fan of the X-Men since childhood that grew up reading the comics, Marvel would do best to lose this guy's phone number and ignore him. He's a no talent hack that shouldn't even be directing commercials let alone big budget comic book films with such a rich history as the X-Men. The best scene in Dark Phoenix (the train sequence) wasn't even directed by him. The film was nothing but a rights grab thrown together with little thought or effort. Kinberg was only given the job because Singer was out of the picture and apparently no one else is capable of directing an X-Men film according to Fox. So glad they folded. Just wish it could have happened sooner. But didn't MCU screw up the infinity saga too? infinity war was the beginning of the end for mcu merit. this was when many directors stopped holding back and called out mcu as bad stuff. infinity war should be the comic book LOTR but it was not. hopefully the snyder cut gets there. there is one bright side to Kinberg although Mathew Vaughn wrote most of DOFP, Kinberg can still get some credit as a writer and that movie has proven to be above any MCU so much that mcu fans hate the film for exposing the childishness of mcu Also I am laughing at your senseless fox rant . Fox made the greatest franchise ever with star wars that disney has screwed and fox can still say they made the most respected marvel films with the top 5 xmen films. something mcu cant say they have. always wondered why you seem so keen on making xmen join the mcu? when their fans never wanted it. LOL Summers8 at your desperate attempt to deflect. This is about studio hack Kinberg begging for work and his ineptitude as a director.
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thenolan
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Post by thenolan on Jun 2, 2020 21:17:58 GMT
But didn't MCU screw up the infinity saga too? infinity war was the beginning of the end for mcu merit. this was when many directors stopped holding back and called out mcu as bad stuff. infinity war should be the comic book LOTR but it was not. hopefully the snyder cut gets there. there is one bright side to Kinberg although Mathew Vaughn wrote most of DOFP, Kinberg can still get some credit as a writer and that movie has proven to be above any MCU so much that mcu fans hate the film for exposing the childishness of mcu Also I am laughing at your senseless fox rant . Fox made the greatest franchise ever with star wars that disney has screwed and fox can still say they made the most respected marvel films with the top 5 xmen films. something mcu cant say they have. always wondered why you seem so keen on making xmen join the mcu? when their fans never wanted it. LOL Summers8 at your desperate attempt to deflect. This is about studio hack Kinberg begging for work and his ineptitude as a director. Oh dear, keep calling me summers8? total waste. It seem you are the one attempting to deflect, we can stay on topic. worst xmen director begging to work for the MCU. check.
best xmen director does not like or want to be part of the mcu. checkso why is that? Anytime I am on this board, i always want to talk about mcu artistry but the mcu fanboys just call me stupid names and defelct from that. try and prove scorsese wrong that mcu movies are theme parks not movie because you are proving him right.
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Post by bud47 on Jun 2, 2020 21:36:25 GMT
LOL Summers8 at your desperate attempt to deflect. This is about studio hack Kinberg begging for work and his ineptitude as a director. Anytime I am on this board, i always want to talk about mcu artistry but the mcu fanboys just call me stupid names and defelct from that. You can stop posting here anytime you want. Simple solution really.
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Post by miike80 on Jun 3, 2020 4:59:24 GMT
LOL Summers8 at your desperate attempt to deflect. This is about studio hack Kinberg begging for work and his ineptitude as a director. Oh dear, keep calling me summers8? total waste. It seem you are the one attempting to deflect, we can stay on topic. worst xmen director begging to work for the MCU. check.
best xmen director does not like or want to be part of the mcu. checkso why is that? Anytime I am on this board, i always want to talk about mcu artistry but the mcu fanboys just call me stupid names and defelct from that. try and prove scorsese wrong that mcu movies are theme parks not movie because you are proving him right. Would you please provide a quote where Martin Scorsese praises a comic book movie? You seem to think he's against MCU but somehow really likes other comic book movies. Also how can anyone talk "artistry" with you? you have no idea what that is
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Post by dazz on Jun 3, 2020 5:01:25 GMT
This guy screwed up the Dark Phoenix saga (The Infinity War for X-Men) not once but twice. If that is the result of Kinberg's love for these characters, being a so-called fan of the X-Men since childhood that grew up reading the comics, Marvel would do best to lose this guy's phone number and ignore him. He's a no talent hack that shouldn't even be directing commercials let alone big budget comic book films with such a rich history as the X-Men. The best scene in Dark Phoenix (the train sequence) wasn't even directed by him. The film was nothing but a rights grab thrown together with little thought or effort. Kinberg was only given the job because Singer was out of the picture and apparently no one else is capable of directing an X-Men film according to Fox. So glad they folded. Just wish it could have happened sooner. But didn't MCU screw up the infinity saga too? infinity war was the beginning of the end for mcu merit. this was when many directors stopped holding back and called out mcu as bad stuff. infinity war should be the comic book LOTR but it was not. hopefully the snyder cut gets there. there is one bright side to Kinberg although Mathew Vaughn wrote most of DOFP, Kinberg can still get some credit as a writer and that movie has proven to be above any MCU so much that mcu fans hate the film for exposing the childishness of mcu Also I am laughing at your senseless fox rant . Fox made the greatest franchise ever with star wars that disney has screwed and fox can still say they made the most respected marvel films with the top 5 xmen films. something mcu cant say they have. always wondered why you seem so keen on making xmen join the mcu? when their fans never wanted it. For someone so pompous you have almost no understanding of anything, and I mean ANYTHING you actually say, Fox didn't make Star Wars, they distributed it and bankrolled the first film that's it, that's why Lucasfilm owned the IP and everything except the original theatrical print of A New Hope, but after ANH Lucasfilm self financed all the other SW films including the later editions of A New Hope.
Also the top 5 X-Men movies don't make up the top 5 Marvel movies, even if someone despises every MCU movies, such as yourself that still leaves the Sony films and the Blade trilogy, Spiderverse for one being one of the best cbm's ever in many peoples opinion.
Also again please cite an actual source for your claims instead of just announcing your opinion as dogmatic law you arrogant moron.
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Post by blockbusted on Jun 3, 2020 8:12:13 GMT
1. Just because he wants to direct an MCU film does NOT mean that Marvel will allow him to do so. 2. Have we seen the same film? X-Men: Dark Phoenix was a lifeless, meandering dreck, which doesn't apply to any MCU film. to be fair marvel does not let any director direct. they all follow a formula but kinberg and mcu are a good fit. what you said about dark Phoenix equates to most of the mcu movies, it is even worse with captain marvel and ant man, it applies, this is why mcu gets trashed by many directors and dark phoenix was trashed. Are you kidding me? Saying that X-Men: Dark Phoenix had myriads of problems is an understatement. This thing had boring story, uninteresting villain, completely ignored plot points, insufferable out-of-character moments, cheap-looking costumes, lousy makeup for Mystique, and some lame acting. Most, if not none of these problems were present in ANY of the MCU films, let alone Captain Marvel or Ant-Man and its sequel.
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Post by blockbusted on Jun 3, 2020 8:22:26 GMT
You don't even know what directing is but you keep acting like a movie buff? Have you seen 10 movies that are unrelated to comic books? So how many directors have quit mcu or talked about their bad experience with the MCU? You know how Spiderman 1, X-Men 1 and Blade 1 all have a different looks the first time you see them? Spiderman 1 = Expensive fantasy blockbuster x-men 1= Gritty realism Blade= Gothic underground feel. How come all mcu films look like theme parks and they all look the same. If MCU were actually using directors, the case will factually be different. its like school. mcu is plagiarising. its an offence in school. it make sense why so many directors see mcu movies as offensive. plagiarism is offensive. Those films were made by different studios. Is that too hard to figure out? Besides, if you think all MCU films look the same, let me try to enlighten(?) you: - Iron Man and Iron Man 2 = sci-fi - The Incredible Hulk = monster action + psychological drama - Thor = sci-fi Shakespeare - Captain America: The First Avengers = dieselpunk - The Avengers = alien invasion - Iron Man 3 = buddy cop + political satire - Thor: The Dark World = sci-fi/fantasy hybrid - Captain America: The Winter Soldier = political spy thriller - Guardians of the Galaxy and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 = space opera - Avengers: Age of Ultron = techno thriller - Ant-Man = spy-fi heist comedy - Captain America: Civil War = character study - Doctor Strange = dark fantasy - Spider-Man: Homecoming = high school comedy + slice-of-life - Thor: Ragnarok = Taika Waititi (yes, really) - Black Panther = 90s Disney classic - Avengers: Infinity War = sci-fi epic - Ant-Man and the Wasp = search and rescue + romantic comedy - Captain Marvel = cyberpunk - Avengers: Endgame = climatic wrap-up - Spider-Man: Far from Home = high school comedy + kaiju/mecha action But then again, a completely rotted dead rat is more likely to understand this much better than you, so what am I even doing here anyway.
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Post by blockbusted on Jun 3, 2020 8:23:20 GMT
Oh dear, keep calling me summers8? total waste. It seem you are the one attempting to deflect, we can stay on topic. worst xmen director begging to work for the MCU. check.
best xmen director does not like or want to be part of the mcu. checkso why is that? Anytime I am on this board, i always want to talk about mcu artistry but the mcu fanboys just call me stupid names and defelct from that. try and prove scorsese wrong that mcu movies are theme parks not movie because you are proving him right. Would you please provide a quote where Martin Scorsese praises a comic book movie? You seem to think he's against MCU but somehow really likes other comic book movies. Also how can anyone talk "artistry" with you? you have no idea what that is Also, at least one of the best X-Men directors is open to direct an MCU film, so his claim falls flat.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jun 22, 2020 17:52:12 GMT
So how many directors have quit mcu or talked about their bad experience with the MCU? You know how Spiderman 1, X-Men 1 and Blade 1 all have a different looks the first time you see them? Spiderman 1 = Expensive fantasy blockbuster x-men 1= Gritty realism Blade= Gothic underground feel. How come all mcu films look like theme parks and they all look the same. If MCU were actually using directors, the case will factually be different. its like school. mcu is plagiarising. its an offence in school. it make sense why so many directors see mcu movies as offensive. plagiarism is offensive. Those films were made by different studios. Is that too hard to figure out? Besides, if you think all MCU films look the same, let me try to enlighten(?) you: - Iron Man and Iron Man 2 = sci-fi - The Incredible Hulk = monster action + psychological drama - Thor = sci-fi Shakespeare - Captain America: The First Avengers = dieselpunk - The Avengers = alien invasion - Iron Man 3 = buddy cop + political satire - Thor: The Dark World = sci-fi/fantasy hybrid - Captain America: The Winter Soldier = political spy thriller - Guardians of the Galaxy and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 = space opera - Avengers: Age of Ultron = techno thriller - Ant-Man = spy-fi heist comedy - Captain America: Civil War = character study - Doctor Strange = dark fantasy - Spider-Man: Homecoming = high school comedy + slice-of-life - Thor: Ragnarok = Taika Waititi (yes, really) - Black Panther = 90s Disney classic - Avengers: Infinity War = sci-fi epic - Ant-Man and the Wasp = search and rescue + romantic comedy - Captain Marvel = cyberpunk - Avengers: Endgame = climatic wrap-up - Spider-Man: Far from Home = high school comedy + kaiju/mecha action But then again, a completely rotted dead rat is more likely to understand this much better than you, so what am I even doing here anyway. I don't think he knows what a theme park is. He just saw someone say it and keeps repeating it. Also, to be honest, calling the MCU a theme park is a good thing. Like you've said, the MCU has different genre of movies in their one universe. The same as a theme park has different kinds of rides you can go on.
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Post by dazz on Jun 23, 2020 1:42:16 GMT
Those films were made by different studios. Is that too hard to figure out? Besides, if you think all MCU films look the same, let me try to enlighten(?) you: - Iron Man and Iron Man 2 = sci-fi - The Incredible Hulk = monster action + psychological drama - Thor = sci-fi Shakespeare - Captain America: The First Avengers = dieselpunk - The Avengers = alien invasion - Iron Man 3 = buddy cop + political satire - Thor: The Dark World = sci-fi/fantasy hybrid - Captain America: The Winter Soldier = political spy thriller - Guardians of the Galaxy and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 = space opera - Avengers: Age of Ultron = techno thriller - Ant-Man = spy-fi heist comedy - Captain America: Civil War = character study - Doctor Strange = dark fantasy - Spider-Man: Homecoming = high school comedy + slice-of-life - Thor: Ragnarok = Taika Waititi (yes, really) - Black Panther = 90s Disney classic - Avengers: Infinity War = sci-fi epic - Ant-Man and the Wasp = search and rescue + romantic comedy - Captain Marvel = cyberpunk - Avengers: Endgame = climatic wrap-up - Spider-Man: Far from Home = high school comedy + kaiju/mecha action But then again, a completely rotted dead rat is more likely to understand this much better than you, so what am I even doing here anyway. I don't think he knows what a theme park is. He just saw someone say it and keeps repeating it. Also, to be honest, calling the MCU a theme park is a good thing. Like you've said, the MCU has different genre of movies in their one universe. The same as a theme park has different kinds of rides you can go on. Not even just rides, theme parks have a variety of attractions, sick of the rides take a look at the arcades, how about the shops, the attractions like the haunted house or house of mirrors, maybe try your luck at winning a prize on some of the games, why not stop for a meal, how about checking out the animals or maybe the live performances?
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Post by blockbusted on May 11, 2022 0:26:50 GMT
After the failure of ‘The 355’, Kinberg should stick to producing.
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Post by Captain Josephus Sparrow on May 12, 2022 9:13:55 GMT
After the failure of ‘The 355’, Kinberg should stick to producing.
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