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Post by movieliker on Jun 11, 2020 13:32:20 GMT
let me try the link again.. didn't seem to work earlier.... That would be the minority's minority opinion. When I want to hear a black person rant about how black people are not oppressed and disadvantaged, I prefer to hear it while looking at Candice Owens. 90% of black people would disagree with that. But again, kneeling during the National Anthem in protest on behalf of the by far prevalent opinion is not disrespectful to the troops who fight, fought and died for the freedom the flag is supposed to represent. That's like saying people who boycott a company like chick-fil-a are disrespecting the hard working chicken farmers of America. That doesn't refute the logic of "If you don't want trouble from police --- don't be a criminal. If you don't want to be killed by police --- don't resist arrest."
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 11, 2020 14:10:00 GMT
That would be the minority's minority opinion. When I want to hear a black person rant about how black people are not oppressed and disadvantaged, I prefer to hear it while looking at Candice Owens. 90% of black people would disagree with that. But again, kneeling during the National Anthem in protest on behalf of the by far prevalent opinion is not disrespectful to the troops who fight, fought and died for the freedom the flag is supposed to represent. That's like saying people who boycott a company like chick-fil-a are disrespecting the hard working chicken farmers of America. That doesn't refute the logic of "If you don't want trouble from police --- don't be a criminal. If you don't want to be killed by police --- don't resist arrest." That doesn't refute the fact that the Constitution expressly forbids this type of thing you love to say all the time, especially when countless examples of people who are killed aren't resisting arrest (although, that doesn't even matter - you have a Constitutional right to not be killed, fancy that). I'm sure you have some absurd canned response to this.
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Post by hehatesshe on Jun 11, 2020 14:10:37 GMT
That would be the minority's minority opinion. When I want to hear a black person rant about how black people are not oppressed and disadvantaged, I prefer to hear it while looking at Candice Owens. 90% of black people would disagree with that. But again, kneeling during the National Anthem in protest on behalf of the by far prevalent opinion is not disrespectful to the troops who fight, fought and died for the freedom the flag is supposed to represent. That's like saying people who boycott a company like chick-fil-a are disrespecting the hard working chicken farmers of America. That doesn't refute the logic of "If you don't want trouble from police --- don't be a criminal. If you don't want to be killed by police --- don't resist arrest." I don't need to spend time refuting that. Anyone with internet access knows the police kill people all the time who were neither resisting arrest nor committing a crime. Not to mention the power this armed gang has to arrest anybody for absolutely no reason makes me seriously disagree that the ramifications for resisting arrest should include death.
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Post by movieliker on Jun 11, 2020 14:24:46 GMT
That doesn't refute the logic of "If you don't want trouble from police --- don't be a criminal. If you don't want to be killed by police --- don't resist arrest." I don't need to spend time refuting that. Anyone with internet access knows the police kill people all the time who were neither resisting arrest nor committing a crime. Not to mention the power this armed gang has to arrest anybody for absolutely no reason makes me seriously disagree that the ramifications for resisting arrest should include death. I can't find any on the Internet. Can you list them for me please. (Police killing people who were not resisting arrest.)
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Post by movieliker on Jun 11, 2020 14:26:31 GMT
That doesn't refute the logic of "If you don't want trouble from police --- don't be a criminal. If you don't want to be killed by police --- don't resist arrest." That doesn't refute the fact that the Constitution expressly forbids this type of thing you love to say all the time, especially when countless examples of people who are killed aren't resisting arrest (although, that doesn't even matter - you have a Constitutional right to not be killed, fancy that). I'm sure you have some absurd canned response to this. I can't find any on the Internet. Can you list them for me please. (Police killing people who were not resisting arrest.)
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 11, 2020 14:32:15 GMT
That doesn't refute the fact that the Constitution expressly forbids this type of thing you love to say all the time, especially when countless examples of people who are killed aren't resisting arrest (although, that doesn't even matter - you have a Constitutional right to not be killed, fancy that). I'm sure you have some absurd canned response to this. I can't find any on the Internet. Can you list them for me please. (Police killing people who were not resisting arrest.) You mean besides George Floyd, right? He wasn't resisting arrest.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 11, 2020 14:33:06 GMT
That doesn't refute the fact that the Constitution expressly forbids this type of thing you love to say all the time, especially when countless examples of people who are killed aren't resisting arrest (although, that doesn't even matter - you have a Constitutional right to not be killed, fancy that). I'm sure you have some absurd canned response to this. I can't find any on the Internet. Can you list them for me please. (Police killing people who were not resisting arrest.) Sure. George Floyd is one. Google is your friend. Yes, we know what trolling is.
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Post by movieliker on Jun 11, 2020 14:37:05 GMT
I can't find any on the Internet. Can you list them for me please. (Police killing people who were not resisting arrest.) You mean besides George Floyd, right? He wasn't resisting arrest. We don't know that. There was some reason they pulled him out of the police car after putting him in.
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Post by movieliker on Jun 11, 2020 14:38:25 GMT
I can't find any on the Internet. Can you list them for me please. (Police killing people who were not resisting arrest.) Sure. George Floyd is one. Google is your friend. Yes, we know what trolling is. We don't know that. There was some reason they pulled him out of the police car after putting him in.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 11, 2020 14:39:55 GMT
Sure. George Floyd is one. Google is your friend. Yes, we know what trolling is. We don't know that. There was some reason they pulled him out of the police car after putting him in. There is literally video evidence of him handcuffed, on the ground, not resisting, being killed. Nice try though, moving the goalposts. Even if you resist arrest, that doesn't give the police free license to just murder you. The Constitution. Read it (although I can't imagine you having the capacity of understanding it).
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Post by movieliker on Jun 11, 2020 14:47:12 GMT
We don't know that. There was some reason they pulled him out of the police car after putting him in. There is literally video evidence of him handcuffed, on the ground, not resisting, being killed. The Constitution. Read it (although I can't imagine you having the capacity of understanding it). There is literally video evidence of police pulling him out of the police car. Running around like they do when an arrested subject is resisting.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 11, 2020 14:49:34 GMT
There is literally video evidence of him handcuffed, on the ground, not resisting, being killed. The Constitution. Read it (although I can't imagine you having the capacity of understanding it). There is literally video evidence of police pulling him out of the police car. Running around like they do when an arrested subject is resisting arrest. Cool. That means it's OK for the police to murder him, according to you. Read the Constitution. Stop trolling.
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Post by movieliker on Jun 11, 2020 14:58:32 GMT
There is literally video evidence of police pulling him out of the police car. Running around like they do when an arrested subject is resisting. Cool. That means it's OK for the police to murder him, according to you. Read the Constitution. Stop trolling. Nobody said that. Committing crime and resisting arrest are dangerous activities. If a person does those things, they have no one to blame but themselves if they get hurt or killed. That was the risk they took. Yeah, they have bad police out there. That's another reason not to be a criminal or resist arrest. Best case scenario, the criminal is dead, and the offending officer goes to jail for murder. Not much consulation for the dead criminal. Now, it's a free country. If one wants to be "a matyr for the cause" go ahead. Get killed committing criminal acts and resisting arrest. I guess that's why so many see George Floyd as a hero --- a career criminal who died proving being a criminal increases one's chances of dying.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 11, 2020 15:04:08 GMT
Cool. That means it's OK for the police to murder him, according to you. Read the Constitution. Stop trolling. Nobody said that. Committing crime and resisting arrest are dangerous activities. If a person does those things, they have no one to blame but themselves if they get hurt or killed. That was the risk they took. Yeah, they have bad police out there. That's another reason not to be a criminal or resist arrest. Best case scenario, the criminal is dead, and the offending officer goes to jail for murder. Not much consulation for the dead criminal. Now, it's a free country. If one wants to be "a matyr for the cause" go ahead. Get killed committing criminal acts and resisting arrest. I guess that's why so many see George Floyd as a hero --- a career criminal who died proving being a criminal increases one's chances of dying. Did you know that hummingbirds will gain 25% of their body mass in order to fly across the Gulf of Mexico in one shot? Can you imagine that, flying across the Gulf without stopping? It would be like me gaining 40 pounds and sprinting to Memphis from NY.
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Post by movieliker on Jun 11, 2020 15:06:39 GMT
Nobody said that. Committing crime and resisting arrest are dangerous activities. If a person does those things, they have no one to blame but themselves if they get hurt or killed. That was the risk they took. Yeah, they have bad police out there. That's another reason not to be a criminal or resist arrest. Best case scenario, the criminal is dead, and the offending officer goes to jail for murder. Not much consulation for the dead criminal. Now, it's a free country. If one wants to be "a matyr for the cause" go ahead. Get killed committing criminal acts and resisting arrest. I guess that's why so many see George Floyd as a hero --- a career criminal who died proving being a criminal increases one's chances of dying. Did you know that hummingbirds will gain 25% of their body mass in order to fly across the Gulf of Mexico in one shot? Can you imagine that, flying across the Gulf without stopping? It would be like me gaining 40 pounds and sprinting to Memphis from NY. I guess my simple logic went over your head. Sorry if I blew your mind.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Jun 11, 2020 15:10:09 GMT
Cool. That means it's OK for the police to murder him, according to you. Read the Constitution. Stop trolling. Nobody said that. Committing crime and resisting arrest are dangerous activities. If a person does those things, they have no one to blame but themselves if they get hurt or killed. That was the risk they took. Yeah, they have bad police out there. That's another reason not to be a criminal or resist arrest. Best case scenario, the criminal is dead, and the offending officer goes to jail for murder. Not much consulation for the dead criminal. Now, it's a free country. If one wants to be "a matyr for the cause" go ahead. Get killed committing criminal acts and resisting arrest. I guess that's why so many see George Floyd as a hero --- a career criminal who died proving being a criminal increases one's chances of dying.
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Post by klawrencio79 on Jun 11, 2020 15:11:13 GMT
Did you know that hummingbirds will gain 25% of their body mass in order to fly across the Gulf of Mexico in one shot? Can you imagine that, flying across the Gulf without stopping? It would be like me gaining 40 pounds and sprinting to Memphis from NY. I guess my simple logic went over your head. Sorry if I blew your mind. Oh, is that what that was? I thought you were just engaging in goalpost-moving and spouting nonsensical bullshit based on a completely false understanding of how the Constitution and the criminal justice system works. One of us has a law degree, studied the constitution, passed the bar exam and has been practicing law for 15 years. The other one openly admitted to not knowing how to look things up on the internet a few posts ago. The only real distinction between your last post and mine is that what I said is true, and not just word salad regurgitated from whatever asinine source you need for your confirmation bias. Yes, we know what trolling is, and you should admit to it. The alternative is that you're the most feeble-minded person on the internet.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jun 11, 2020 15:13:33 GMT
Cool. That means it's OK for the police to murder him, according to you. Read the Constitution. Stop trolling. Nobody said that. Committing crime and resisting arrest are dangerous activities. If a person does those things, they have no one to blame but themselves if they get hurt or killed. That was the risk they took. Yeah, they have bad police out there. That's another reason not to be a criminal or resist arrest. Best case scenario, the criminal is dead, and the offending officer goes to jail for murder. Not much consulation for the dead criminal. Now, it's a free country. If one wants to be "a matyr for the cause" go ahead. Get killed committing criminal acts and resisting arrest. I guess that's why so many see George Floyd as a hero --- a career criminal who died proving being a criminal increases one's chances of dying. You've seen the video, yeah? How much of the 8 minutes 46 seconds Chauvin had his knee on Floyd's neck would you estimate Floyd was resisting arrest?
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Post by movieliker on Jun 11, 2020 15:15:25 GMT
Nobody said that. Committing crime and resisting arrest are dangerous activities. If a person does those things, they have no one to blame but themselves if they get hurt or killed. That was the risk they took. Yeah, they have bad police out there. That's another reason not to be a criminal or resist arrest. Best case scenario, the criminal is dead, and the offending officer goes to jail for murder. Not much consulation for the dead criminal. Now, it's a free country. If one wants to be "a matyr for the cause" go ahead. Get killed committing criminal acts and resisting arrest. I guess that's why so many see George Floyd as a hero --- a career criminal who died proving being a criminal increases one's chances of dying. That's the bottomline. And that's why I laugh when I see these black ladies crying, "George Floyd could be my son." Which provokes the understandable response, "Why? Is your son a criminal?"
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Post by movieliker on Jun 11, 2020 15:19:55 GMT
Nobody said that. Committing crime and resisting arrest are dangerous activities. If a person does those things, they have no one to blame but themselves if they get hurt or killed. That was the risk they took. Yeah, they have bad police out there. That's another reason not to be a criminal or resist arrest. Best case scenario, the criminal is dead, and the offending officer goes to jail for murder. Not much consulation for the dead criminal. Now, it's a free country. If one wants to be "a matyr for the cause" go ahead. Get killed committing criminal acts and resisting arrest. I guess that's why so many see George Floyd as a hero --- a career criminal who died proving being a criminal increases one's chances of dying. You've seen the video, yeah? How much of the 8 minutes 46 seconds Chauvin had his knee on Floyd's neck would you estimate Floyd was resisting arrest? With all due respect Rey, you must have reading comprehension issues. If there was resisting arrest, it happened in the police car prompting them to pull him back out. Them fighting with him in the police car is on video also. Have you seen that one?
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