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Post by hi224 on Jun 6, 2020 1:33:48 GMT
Bogart, Bergman, and Henreid all disliked one another.
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Post by petrolino on Jun 6, 2020 1:49:08 GMT
Such a great movie though.
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Post by marianne48 on Jun 6, 2020 2:48:48 GMT
One of my rules of thumb about whether or not to see a new release: If most of the publicity about it revolves around its stars gushing about how much fun they had on the set, then the movie's probably not very good.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 6, 2020 12:35:55 GMT
Egos clash sometimes.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 6, 2020 14:10:55 GMT
I guess none of the casablanca actors got along.... Bogart, Bergman, and Henreid all disliked one another. This statement is based on what ? Not saying it isn't so, but details in your post are somewhat slim. |
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Post by marshamae on Jun 6, 2020 14:35:18 GMT
I’m surprised Bergman and bogart never made another film because they had tremendous chemistry. As for henreid it was arguably his best role, so not caring for tge costars should not have been the issue, if it was. I’m like Bat. Data please? I have never read that
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jun 6, 2020 15:40:10 GMT
Although I've picked up a tidbit here and there, backstage gossip is something to which I pay little attention, so this is some I've never come across.
I have heard Peter Lorre say that he, Bogart and Greenstreet were great friends, and that he felt very alone after they were gone. And I've heard Bergman say about Bogart, "I've kissed him, but I didn't know him well." The stories about the chaotic nature of the production due to script changes that came on a nearly daily basis have achieved legendary status, so that must have been stressful.
In those days, of course, a busy actor's career consisted of starting a new job every couple or so months. I've never acted professionally, but on any job I've had, whether brief or lengthy, there were always some people who just didn't get along. I'm sure the intense nature of film making, what with the pressures of schedules, budgets and so forth making themselves apparent on-set among perhaps dozens of people who may be strangers to one another, can make that basic human circumstance acute.
One advantage actors working under those conditions have that employees in most jobs don't is the certainty that it never lasts long: usually over in a matter of weeks, after which they can move on. There's also a drawback: years and decades later, people are interested in it.
But no one much cares who did or didn't get along at the ABC Tool & Die Company or the XYZ Food Mart.
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Post by hi224 on Jun 6, 2020 16:53:48 GMT
Although I've picked up a tidbit here and there, backstage gossip is something to which I pay little attention, so this is some I've never come across. I have heard Peter Lorre say that he, Bogart and Greenstreet were great friends, and that he felt very alone after they were gone. And I've heard Bergman say about Bogart, "I've kissed him, but I didn't know him well." The stories about the chaotic nature of the production due to script changes that came on a nearly daily basis have achieved legendary status, so that must have been stressful. In those days, of course, a busy actor's career consisted of starting a new job every couple or so months. I've never acted professionally, but on any job I've had, whether brief or lengthy, there were always some people who just didn't get along. I'm sure the intense nature of film making, what with the pressures of schedules, budgets and so forth making themselves apparent on-set among perhaps dozens of people who may be strangers to one another, can make that basic human circumstance acute. One advantage actors working under those conditions have that employees in most jobs don't is the certainty that it never lasts long: usually over in a matter of weeks, after which they can move on. There's also a drawback: years and decades later, people are interested in it. But no one much cares who did or didn't get along at the ABC Tool & Die Company or the XYZ Food Mart. I will try to find some sites. |
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jun 6, 2020 16:57:56 GMT
So what if they did not get along ?
It does not matter if actors/actresses don`t get along of screen. The only thing that matter is what happens on screen and that they can pretend to get along on screen if that is what they are suppose to do.
I mean its no more different than actors who are best friends in real life and hate each other on screen. Its the relationship on screen that is important not the off screen relationship
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Post by Isapop on Jun 6, 2020 17:07:38 GMT
Peter Lorre was overheard complaining to director Michael Curtiz, "If Sidney Greenstreet gives me a wedgie once more, I'm walking!"
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Post by BATouttaheck on Jun 6, 2020 17:31:49 GMT
But no one much cares who did or didn't get along at the ABC Tool & Die Company or the XYZ Food Mart. I don't even care much about who did or didn't get along when making a movie . Knowing about off screen squabbles etc is gossip column fodder and, for me, detracts from the enjoyment of a film. This statement/ guess about Casablance in particular was puzzling as it was a "new one to me". |
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Post by hi224 on Jun 6, 2020 17:41:21 GMT
Although I've picked up a tidbit here and there, backstage gossip is something to which I pay little attention, so this is some I've never come across. I have heard Peter Lorre say that he, Bogart and Greenstreet were great friends, and that he felt very alone after they were gone. And I've heard Bergman say about Bogart, "I've kissed him, but I didn't know him well." The stories about the chaotic nature of the production due to script changes that came on a nearly daily basis have achieved legendary status, so that must have been stressful. In those days, of course, a busy actor's career consisted of starting a new job every couple or so months. I've never acted professionally, but on any job I've had, whether brief or lengthy, there were always some people who just didn't get along. I'm sure the intense nature of film making, what with the pressures of schedules, budgets and so forth making themselves apparent on-set among perhaps dozens of people who may be strangers to one another, can make that basic human circumstance acute. One advantage actors working under those conditions have that employees in most jobs don't is the certainty that it never lasts long: usually over in a matter of weeks, after which they can move on. There's also a drawback: years and decades later, people are interested in it. But no one much cares who did or didn't get along at the ABC Tool & Die Company or the XYZ Food Mart. I will try to find some sites. |
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Post by hi224 on Jun 6, 2020 18:08:32 GMT
So what if they did not get along ? It does not matter if actors/actresses don`t get along of screen. The only thing that matter is what happens on screen and that they can pretend to get along on screen if that is what they are suppose to do. I mean its no more different than actors who are best friends in real life and hate each other on screen. Its the relationship on screen that is important not the off screen relationship Is it a big deal if I posted). |
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jun 6, 2020 20:09:54 GMT
I will try to find some sites. That's fine if you want to, but please don't go to any trouble on my account. The remarks above weren't intended as dispute or challenges. I meant only that I wasn't aware of any such stories, and then did what I often do: take up a whole lotta room with stream-of-consciousness ruminations (weekends are an especially treacherous time). |
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jun 6, 2020 20:44:12 GMT
But no one much cares who did or didn't get along at the ABC Tool & Die Company or the XYZ Food Mart. I don't even care much about who did or didn't get along when making a movie . Knowing about off screen squabbles etc is gossip column fodder and, for me, detracts from the enjoyment of a film. This statement/ guess about Casablance in particular was puzzling as it was a "new one to me". Everyone has their areas of interest, so I can't begrudge this one to anybody, particularly after the space I've sometimes filled here with arcane technobabble about film gauges and formats, color processes, cameras, lenses and what-all. And when gossip comes in the form of a witty story, it can be fun to remember and tell. And since it's about, y'know, Hollywood, ya give it no more than even odds ( there's a piquant phrase) of being true. |
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