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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 6, 2020 21:50:39 GMT
Vote!
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jun 7, 2020 21:01:01 GMT
The Mainstream Universe
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Post by politicidal on Jun 7, 2020 22:12:02 GMT
The Mainstream Universe, followed by Deadpool.
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Post by James on Jun 8, 2020 16:17:47 GMT
I don’t know if Logan counts as a separate universe, though if it does, I would say that.
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Post by bud47 on Jun 8, 2020 19:26:51 GMT
Logan is my favorite as long as it's viewed as an Elseworlds standalone story. However, it's clearly meant to be connected to the mainstream universe, just set in the future.
Therefore, I pick Deadpool because it's the only one that actually knows it's based on a comic book character and isn't ashamed of it, while remaining mostly faithful to the source material.
And congratulations on getting genuine replies without having to resort to those pathetic self-bumps you usually do. Way to go!
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Post by movielover on Jun 8, 2020 19:42:14 GMT
Mainstream
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 8, 2020 22:47:45 GMT
Logan is my favorite as long as it's viewed as an Elseworlds standalone story. However, it's clearly meant to be connected to the mainstream universe, just set in the future. There are several hints about "Logan" being a standalone universe. The real ending of the Mainstream Universe is the positive future of DOFP (2023). In the "Logan" universe: 1- At the end of "Dark Phoenix", mutants are no more seen in a "friendly" way. I doubt that humans would issue comic books about them in the 2000s/2010s or so. 2- Old Man Logan killed the scientists in his version of the WX Program. Our Logan never did that in "Apocalypse", he slaughtered the soldiers. 3- There was no Transigen-Alkali in "Apocalypse". 4- There was no adamantium bullet in "Apocalypse". In the original timeline, the adamantium bullet had been already used anyway, and it wasn't available anymore. 5- There are mutant children at the school in the ending of DOFP (2023). This means that mutant births didn't stop in 2004, I mean in the mainstream X-Men universe. 6- In DOFP, Phoenix is alive. In the deleted scene of "Logan", Old Man Logan talks about killing Jean and his remorse. That said, I doubt that Phoenix wouldn't be able to stop Xavier from killing the X-Men. 7- They never talk about the time-travelling issue. 8- Caliban is totally different. 9- Logan is supposed to have been "masked and costumed" in his X-Man days, wearing the comic book costume. 10- Charles is 90 years old in "Logan" (2029). In the mainstream X-Men universe, he is born in 1932. |
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Post by bud47 on Jun 8, 2020 23:01:14 GMT
Logan is my favorite as long as it's viewed as an Elseworlds standalone story. However, it's clearly meant to be connected to the mainstream universe, just set in the future. There are several hints about "Logan" being a standalone universe. The real ending of the Mainstream Universe is the positive future of DOFP (2023). In the "Logan" universe: 1- At the end of "Dark Phoenix", mutants are no more seen in a "friendly" way. I doubt that humans would issue comic books about them in the 2000s/2010s or so. 2- Old Man Logan killed the scientists in his version of the WX Program. Our Logan never did that in "Apocalypse", he slaughtered the soldiers. 3- There was no Transigen-Alkali in "Apocalypse". 4- There was no adamantium bullet in "Apocalypse". In the original timeline, the adamantium bullet had been already used anyway, and it wasn't available anymore. 5- There are mutant children at the school in the ending of DOFP (2023). This means that mutant births didn't stop in 2004, I mean in the mainstream X-Men universe. 6- In DOFP, Phoenix is alive. In the deleted scene of "Logan", Old Man Logan talks about killing Jean and his remorse. That said, I doubt that Phoenix wouldn't be able to stop Xavier from killing the X-Men. 7- They never talk about the time-travelling issue. 8- Caliban is totally different. 9- Logan is supposed to have been "masked and costumed" in his X-Man days, wearing the comic book costume. 10- Charles is 90 years old in "Logan" (2029). In the mainstream X-Men universe, he is born in 1932. Or...the studio and filmmakers don't care about the specifics in these films (pesky continuity, consistency) and just pick and choose things willy nilly. It's easier to think of each film as a reboot and it's own cinematic universe. |
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jun 8, 2020 23:16:51 GMT
There are several hints about "Logan" being a standalone universe. The real ending of the Mainstream Universe is the positive future of DOFP (2023). In the "Logan" universe: 1- At the end of "Dark Phoenix", mutants are no more seen in a "friendly" way. I doubt that humans would issue comic books about them in the 2000s/2010s or so. 2- Old Man Logan killed the scientists in his version of the WX Program. Our Logan never did that in "Apocalypse", he slaughtered the soldiers. 3- There was no Transigen-Alkali in "Apocalypse". 4- There was no adamantium bullet in "Apocalypse". In the original timeline, the adamantium bullet had been already used anyway, and it wasn't available anymore. 5- There are mutant children at the school in the ending of DOFP (2023). This means that mutant births didn't stop in 2004, I mean in the mainstream X-Men universe. 6- In DOFP, Phoenix is alive. In the deleted scene of "Logan", Old Man Logan talks about killing Jean and his remorse. That said, I doubt that Phoenix wouldn't be able to stop Xavier from killing the X-Men. 7- They never talk about the time-travelling issue. 8- Caliban is totally different. 9- Logan is supposed to have been "masked and costumed" in his X-Man days, wearing the comic book costume. 10- Charles is 90 years old in "Logan" (2029). In the mainstream X-Men universe, he is born in 1932. Or...the studio and filmmakers don't care about the specifics in these films (pesky continuity, consistency) and just pick and choose things willy nilly. It's easier to think of each film as a reboot and it's own cinematic universe. Even if there were MINOR discrepancies between Origins and the original trilogy, or between First Class and the original trilogy, you can easily fix those. I did it. "Logan" felt way too different and, IMHO, those discrepancies were bigger and larger. I see "Logan" as a nice send-off letter for the Wolverine character of the original trilogy/timeline. There are hints to Origins and The Wolverine. |
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Jun 12, 2020 9:28:57 GMT
Deadpool (1 and 2)
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