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Post by shannondegroot on Jun 10, 2020 18:54:17 GMT
The UFO's that people claim to see, the idea of Aliens being involved with the human race at different points of time, the watchers .. would you be happy to find out that it is all true ? Or would you be upset ?
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Post by politicidal on Jun 11, 2020 14:54:44 GMT
It would be cool to know for certain if there was intelligent life at all elsewhere.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 12, 2020 8:17:48 GMT
If they are aliens, two questions come to mind:
1) Of all the millions and millions of planets, why would they be interested in this one?
2) After taking such a strong interest in this planet, why did they leave?
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Post by bd74 on Jun 12, 2020 22:03:53 GMT
When I was younger I used to think that aliens really are visiting this planet (hence the UFOs), but as I got older I realized that there's never been a clear/sharp picture ever taken of a UFO. And the amateur video footage that's available is usually grainy or the object is very far away, etc. All of that gives me doubt and it makes me think that whatever UFOs exist out there are NOT of alien origin.
If aliens did show up one day in the future, a lot of people would claim that "the government knew all along and covered it up" blah blah blah.
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Post by Catman on Jun 12, 2020 22:07:13 GMT
If they are aliens, two questions come to mind: 1) Of all the millions and millions of planets, why would they be interested in this one? 2) After taking such a strong interest in this planet, why did they leave? 1) They were intrigued by the original Star Trek series. 2) Once they arrived, they saw Star Trek: Enterprise. |
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Post by politicidal on Jun 13, 2020 0:41:17 GMT
When I was younger I used to think that aliens really are visiting this planet (hence the UFOs), but as I got older I realized that there's never been a clear/sharp picture ever taken of a UFO. And the amateur video footage that's available is usually grainy or the object is very far away, etc. All of that gives me doubt and it makes me think that whatever UFOs exist out there are NOT of alien origin. If aliens did show up one day in the future, a lot of people would claim that "the government knew all along and covered it up" blah blah blah. I hate the movie but I think Mars Attacks is the most accurate depiction of how such an encounter will occur. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 13, 2020 3:03:15 GMT
If they are aliens, two questions come to mind: 1) Of all the millions and millions of planets, why would they be interested in this one? 2) After taking such a strong interest in this planet, why did they leave? 1) They were intrigued by the original Star Trek series. 2) Once they arrived, they saw Star Trek: Enterprise. Makes as much sense as any of the other theories. |
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Post by Karl Aksel on Jun 24, 2020 13:14:05 GMT
If they are aliens, two questions come to mind: 1) Of all the millions and millions of planets, why would they be interested in this one? 2) After taking such a strong interest in this planet, why did they leave? Why they'd be interested is a no-brainer. Why wouldn't they be interested in a planet which not only supports life, but actually contains life? And not only contains life, but intelligent life? Of course, there is absolutely no reason to assume they would come in peace. They would do the exact same thing we would do: colonize, study, experiment, eat, place in zoos, enslave etc. Species always compete for resources. We allow other species to live so long as they don't get in our way. An alien species could not allow us to roam free on this planet, because we'd hog all the resources to ourselves. They would naturally look out for Numero Uno, just like we would. They'd be stupid not to, and having made it to Eart, it is unlikely they'd be any dumber than we are. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 24, 2020 17:10:42 GMT
If they are aliens, two questions come to mind: 1) Of all the millions and millions of planets, why would they be interested in this one? 2) After taking such a strong interest in this planet, why did they leave? Why they'd be interested is a no-brainer. Why wouldn't they be interested in a planet which not only supports life, but actually contains life? And not only contains life, but intelligent life? Of course, there is absolutely no reason to assume they would come in peace. They would do the exact same thing we would do: colonize, study, experiment, eat, place in zoos, enslave etc. Species always compete for resources. We allow other species to live so long as they don't get in our way. An alien species could not allow us to roam free on this planet, because we'd hog all the resources to ourselves. They would naturally look out for Numero Uno, just like we would. They'd be stupid not to, and having made it to Eart, it is unlikely they'd be any dumber than we are. Someday I must tell you what a guy who worked at the Pentagon told me regarding aliens. |
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Post by Karl Aksel on Jun 24, 2020 17:44:37 GMT
Why they'd be interested is a no-brainer. Why wouldn't they be interested in a planet which not only supports life, but actually contains life? And not only contains life, but intelligent life? Of course, there is absolutely no reason to assume they would come in peace. They would do the exact same thing we would do: colonize, study, experiment, eat, place in zoos, enslave etc. Species always compete for resources. We allow other species to live so long as they don't get in our way. An alien species could not allow us to roam free on this planet, because we'd hog all the resources to ourselves. They would naturally look out for Numero Uno, just like we would. They'd be stupid not to, and having made it to Eart, it is unlikely they'd be any dumber than we are. Someday I must tell you what a guy who worked at the Pentagon told me regarding aliens. That they're actually misunderstood? |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 24, 2020 18:03:47 GMT
Someday I must tell you what a guy who worked at the Pentagon told me regarding aliens. That they're actually misunderstood? That they exist. The government knows they exist, but they just don't publicize it. |
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Post by Karl Aksel on Jun 26, 2020 5:48:07 GMT
That they're actually misunderstood? That they exist. The government knows they exist, but they just don't publicize it. I see. Funny how it's only ever the US government that the aliens reach out to. |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 26, 2020 6:13:54 GMT
That they exist. The government knows they exist, but they just don't publicize it. I see. Funny how it's only ever the US government that the aliens reach out to. We don't know that for certain. |
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Post by Karl Aksel on Jun 26, 2020 11:55:20 GMT
I see. Funny how it's only ever the US government that the aliens reach out to. We don't know that for certain. How about for less certain? After all, it's not as if we know for certain that this Pentagon dude you know is telling the truth, either. As far as I'm concerned, he's just "a guy I know". |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 26, 2020 15:25:07 GMT
We don't know that for certain. How about for less certain? After all, it's not as if we know for certain that this Pentagon dude you know is telling the truth, either. As far as I'm concerned, he's just "a guy I know". Okay. |
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Post by Catman on Jun 26, 2020 15:28:30 GMT
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Post by Winter_King on Jun 30, 2020 10:26:17 GMT
If they are aliens, two questions come to mind: 1) Of all the millions and millions of planets, why would they be interested in this one? 2) After taking such a strong interest in this planet, why did they leave? Why they'd be interested is a no-brainer. Why wouldn't they be interested in a planet which not only supports life, but actually contains life? And not only contains life, but intelligent life? Of course, there is absolutely no reason to assume they would come in peace. They would do the exact same thing we would do: colonize, study, experiment, eat, place in zoos, enslave etc. Species always compete for resources. We allow other species to live so long as they don't get in our way. An alien species could not allow us to roam free on this planet, because we'd hog all the resources to ourselves. They would naturally look out for Numero Uno, just like we would. They'd be stupid not to, and having made it to Eart, it is unlikely they'd be any dumber than we are. This is assuming that the alien behavior would be human like. An intelligent life form evolving in planet that might very different from us will probably have an completely alien culture. War and conquest might foreign to them. |
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Post by Jonesy1 on Jun 30, 2020 10:30:43 GMT
If they are aliens, two questions come to mind: 1) Of all the millions and millions of planets, why would they be interested in this one? 2) After taking such a strong interest in this planet, why did they leave? 1) Why not? 2) What makes you think they have? |
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Post by Karl Aksel on Jun 30, 2020 11:41:50 GMT
Why they'd be interested is a no-brainer. Why wouldn't they be interested in a planet which not only supports life, but actually contains life? And not only contains life, but intelligent life? Of course, there is absolutely no reason to assume they would come in peace. They would do the exact same thing we would do: colonize, study, experiment, eat, place in zoos, enslave etc. Species always compete for resources. We allow other species to live so long as they don't get in our way. An alien species could not allow us to roam free on this planet, because we'd hog all the resources to ourselves. They would naturally look out for Numero Uno, just like we would. They'd be stupid not to, and having made it to Eart, it is unlikely they'd be any dumber than we are. This is assuming that the alien behavior would be human like. An intelligent life form evolving in planet that might very different from us will probably have an completely alien culture. War and conquest might foreign to them. "Human-like behaviour" assumes our behaviour is unique. It isn't, really. Humans have nature-like behaviour. Success in an evolutionary sense must necessarily be dog-eat-dog. Yes, we co-operate, but only to out-compete other species and other groups of humans who also co-operate. Intelligent aliens would by necessity have had to have reached their level of enlightenment by the same path as we have: by becoming top dog through a long and arduous evolutionary process. And a species that takes to the stars is a species which has exhausted - or is fast exhausting - its options back home. And a sense of curiosity is of no benefit to a species which does not use it for its own selfish interest. War and conquest would certainly not be foreign to them. "Oh, this planet's already taken. I guess we'll have to go elsewhere, then." That would be an extremely wasteful attitude, and to their detriment. It is inconceivable that such a self-less instinct - even towards species not its own - should ever be selected for. |
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Post by Winter_King on Jun 30, 2020 12:38:57 GMT
This is assuming that the alien behavior would be human like. An intelligent life form evolving in planet that might very different from us will probably have an completely alien culture. War and conquest might foreign to them. "Human-like behaviour" assumes our behaviour is unique. It isn't, really. Humans have nature-like behaviour. Success in an evolutionary sense must necessarily be dog-eat-dog. Yes, we co-operate, but only to out-compete other species and other groups of humans who also co-operate. Intelligent aliens would by necessity have had to have reached their level of enlightenment by the same path as we have: by becoming top dog through a long and arduous evolutionary process. And a species that takes to the stars is a species which has exhausted - or is fast exhausting - its options back home. And a sense of curiosity is of no benefit to a species which does not use it for its own selfish interest. War and conquest would certainly not be foreign to them. "Oh, this planet's already taken. I guess we'll have to go elsewhere, then." That would be an extremely wasteful attitude, and to their detriment. It is inconceivable that such a self-less instinct - even towards species not its own - should ever be selected for. Fair enough about human like behavior but I disagree with you on the rest. It implies that evolution on this planet happened similar on other planets. I mean theoretically life on some planets might not even be carbon based. Competition might not been selected by nature on other planets. Some aliens might even be immortal thus they might not even have the concept of death. I'm not saying you are wrong, but I think you are using the evolution of life on this planet and apply it to hypothetical aliens. Humans are tribal and social animals. Aliens might not be tribal for example. We are vastly different from ants but an alien civilization capable of reaching here might even be more different than humans than humans are different from ants. |
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