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Post by Cody™ on Jun 14, 2020 21:41:39 GMT
Kind of like the left’s habit of responding to each Islamic terrorist act with “well Christians did some terrible things hundreds of years ago too!” Yeah because BLM rioting and demolishing shit is a reasonable solution. The issue at hand was a police officer abused his position of power and killed a guy and has since been charged and will be punished accordingly. A line should have been drawn under it right there. Instead the carnage that has ensued from leftist “activists” like BLM and Antifa causing unnecessary chaos and damage is clearly mostly politically motivated. "Kind of like the left’s habit of responding to each Islamic terrorist act with “well Christians did some terrible things hundreds of years ago too!" Whataboutism. You can't can't actaully refute what I said about conservatives and blacks getting shot (because it's completely true) so you have to pivot to some nonsequitor. I think the point conservatives are making is that innocent people of all stripes are being unjustly killed. What makes Floyd’s case so special to warrant a worldwide outcry? We don’t even know if the murder was racially motivated. Yeah the video you dismissed as Candace Owens spouting off alt right talking points on a thread where you’re basically spouting off baseless alt-left taking points. Besides Candace Owens has always preached that the black community needs to cleans up it’s own act, in regards crime, violence and broken homes before blaming whites for holding them back. That’s a far more useful solution than running around like uncivilised morons assaulting people, damaging private property and causing havoc. Now who’s strawmaning? Besides where do we stop? Should there be a protest every time a cop bully unnecessarily assaults and kills a suspect? Should we protest every time a black criminal assaults or kills a white, Hispanic or Asian cop. Because believe me it happens a lot more than white cop on black murder. And there is no corrupt police system don’t be fucking stupid. |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jun 15, 2020 0:29:33 GMT
"Kind of like the left’s habit of responding to each Islamic terrorist act with “well Christians did some terrible things hundreds of years ago too!" Whataboutism. You can't can't actaully refute what I said about conservatives and blacks getting shot (because it's completely true) so you have to pivot to some nonsequitor. I think the point conservatives are making is that innocent people of all stripes are being unjustly killed. What makes Floyd’s case so special to warrant a worldwide outcry? We don’t even know if the murder was racially motivated. Yeah the video you dismissed as Candace Owens spouting off alt right talking points on a thread where you’re basically spouting off baseless alt-left taking points. Besides Candace Owens has always preached that the black community needs to cleans up it’s own act, in regards crime, violence and broken homes before blaming whites for holding them back. That’s a far more useful solution than running around like uncivilised morons assaulting people, damaging private property and causing havoc. Now who’s strawmaning? Besides where do we stop? Should there be a protest every time a cop bully unnecessarily assaults and kills a suspect? Should we protest every time a black criminal assaults or kills a white, Hispanic or Asian cop. Because believe me it happens a lot more than white cop on black murder. And there is no corrupt police system don’t be fucking stupid. "I think the point conservatives are making is that innocent people of all stripes are being unjustly killed" No, the point they're trying (and failing) to make is we shouldn't be that concerned because "he was no angel". It's the same garbage line they always use whenever a black person gets shot. "Besides where do we stop? Should there be a protest every time a cop bully unnecessarily assaults and kills a suspect?" Sure why not? Are you telling me you're complicent with police brutality and there shouldn't be protests? "Besides Candace Owens has always preached that the black community needs to cleans up it’s own act, in regards crime, violence and broken homes before blaming whites for holding them back" You do realize criminality stems from socioeconomic issues right? This is very well documented in academia, you would be rather hardpressed to find a conservative criminologist. It is a lot more difficult than simply "cleaning up your own act", this is why people laugh at conservatives, you guys wanna reduce a very complicated issue to "They just gotta cleanup their act! That's all it takes!". That's not a solution. And this is just mainstream conservatism, the alt right (which I'm sure Candace Owens has a decent following) want to attribute criminality to genetic predispositions or some nonsense like that. "And there is no corrupt police system don’t be fucking stupid." Oh really?: www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcementwww.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/04/24/usa-today-revealing-misconduct-records-police-cops/3223984002/vittana.org/42-shocking-police-brutality-statisticsLemme ask you ask a question (and try to actually answer honestly), if someone hated black people and wanted to get away with abusing and assulating them, what job profession do you think they would consider? |
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Post by goz on Jun 15, 2020 0:58:11 GMT
"Kind of like the left’s habit of responding to each Islamic terrorist act with “well Christians did some terrible things hundreds of years ago too!" Whataboutism. You can't can't actaully refute what I said about conservatives and blacks getting shot (because it's completely true) so you have to pivot to some nonsequitor. I think the point conservatives are making is that innocent people of all stripes are being unjustly killed. What makes Floyd’s case so special to warrant a worldwide outcry? We don’t even know if the murder was racially motivated. Yeah the video you dismissed as Candace Owens spouting off alt right talking points on a thread where you’re basically spouting off baseless alt-left taking points. Besides Candace Owens has always preached that the black community needs to cleans up it’s own act, in regards crime, violence and broken homes before blaming whites for holding them back. That’s a far more useful solution than running around like uncivilised morons assaulting people, damaging private property and causing havoc. Now who’s strawmaning? Besides where do we stop? Should there be a protest every time a cop bully unnecessarily assaults and kills a suspect? Should we protest every time a black criminal assaults or kills a white, Hispanic or Asian cop. Because believe me it happens a lot more than white cop on black murder. And there is no corrupt police system don’t be fucking stupid. Speaking of straw, have you heard the say8ing 'the straw that broke the camel's back'? That was the Floyd affair. |
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Post by Cody™ on Jun 15, 2020 1:55:14 GMT
I think the point conservatives are making is that innocent people of all stripes are being unjustly killed. What makes Floyd’s case so special to warrant a worldwide outcry? We don’t even know if the murder was racially motivated. Yeah the video you dismissed as Candace Owens spouting off alt right talking points on a thread where you’re basically spouting off baseless alt-left taking points. Besides Candace Owens has always preached that the black community needs to cleans up it’s own act, in regards crime, violence and broken homes before blaming whites for holding them back. That’s a far more useful solution than running around like uncivilised morons assaulting people, damaging private property and causing havoc. Now who’s strawmaning? Besides where do we stop? Should there be a protest every time a cop bully unnecessarily assaults and kills a suspect? Should we protest every time a black criminal assaults or kills a white, Hispanic or Asian cop. Because believe me it happens a lot more than white cop on black murder. And there is no corrupt police system don’t be fucking stupid. Speaking of straw, have you heard the say8ing 'the straw that broke the camel's back'? That was the Floyd affair. In 2019 only 0.1% of all African-Americans killed by police shootings were unarmed. By contrast, a police officer is over 18 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer. GTFOH with that “straw that broke the camel’s back” bs. A few isolated cases is not systematic racism. America is a hugely populated country with a high crime rate. Blacks commit 53% of homicides and around 60% of robberies. Yet they are 13% of the total population. No one ever hold them accountable to such worrying statistics. Instead they virtue signal about socioeconomic hardships. Like there aren’t any schools and colleges in majority black neighbourhoods. They also completely ignore other correlating stats such as how 74% of black kids are raised without fathers. May be if more black males started acting like men, stayed around and raised their children so many of them wouldn’t be getting into these situations to begin with. |
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Post by goz on Jun 15, 2020 2:24:37 GMT
Speaking of straw, have you heard the say8ing 'the straw that broke the camel's back'? That was the Floyd affair. In 2019 only 0.1% of all African-Americans killed by police shootings were unarmed. By contrast, a police officer is over 18 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer. GTFOH with that “straw that broke the camel’s back” bs. A few isolated cases is not systematic racism. America is a hugely populated country with a high crime rate. Blacks commit 53% of homicides and around 60% of robberies. Yet they are 13% of the total population. No one ever hold them accountable to such worrying statistics. Instead they virtue signal about socioeconomic hardships. Like there aren’t any schools and colleges in majority black neighbourhoods. They also completely ignore other correlating stats such as how 74% of black kids are raised without fathers. May be if more black males started acting like men, stayed around and raised their children so many of them wouldn’t be getting into these situations to begin with. THAT is what over two hundred years of slavery, poverty, racism and neglect brings people down to. As a Christian you should understand that. It is the same here with our impoverished aboriginal population. They are overrepresented in the stats due to endemic poverty neglect discrimination and racism. Same with America's indigenous population. |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jun 15, 2020 2:25:20 GMT
Speaking of straw, have you heard the say8ing 'the straw that broke the camel's back'? That was the Floyd affair. In 2019 only 0.1% of all African-Americans killed by police shootings were unarmed. By contrast, a police officer is over 18 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer. GTFOH with that “straw that broke the camel’s back” bs. A few isolated cases is not systematic racism. America is a hugely populated country with a high crime rate. Blacks commit 53% of homicides and around 60% of robberies. Yet they are 13% of the total population. No one ever hold them accountable to such worrying statistics. Instead they virtue signal about socioeconomic hardships. Like there aren’t any schools and colleges in majority black neighbourhoods. They also completely ignore other correlating stats such as how 74% of black kids are raised without fathers. May be if more black males started acting like men, stayed around and raised their children so many of them wouldn’t be getting into these situations to begin with. "Instead they virtue signal about socioeconomic hardships." Yes, socioecomics is heavily correlated with criminaltiy, there's vasts amount of research to confirm this. Do you deny this? "Like there aren’t any schools and colleges in majority black neighbourhoods." Yeah and they're typically underfunded and falling apart "They also completely ignore other correlating stats such as how 74% of black kids are raised without fathers." Yes again this is tied to socioeconomics, this is very well documented. Why do you keep ignoring this? Do you just dislike academic studies and data just go by feelings? That's what you're bascially telling me. Lemma ask you another question (I noticed you didn't answer my first question). Let's say you have two families, a rich black family and a poor white one. Tell me, which do you think is more likely to produce well educated, successful children and which is more likely to produce children who become single fathers and criminals? |
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Post by Cody™ on Jun 15, 2020 3:00:55 GMT
In 2019 only 0.1% of all African-Americans killed by police shootings were unarmed. By contrast, a police officer is over 18 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer. GTFOH with that “straw that broke the camel’s back” bs. A few isolated cases is not systematic racism. America is a hugely populated country with a high crime rate. Blacks commit 53% of homicides and around 60% of robberies. Yet they are 13% of the total population. No one ever hold them accountable to such worrying statistics. Instead they virtue signal about socioeconomic hardships. Like there aren’t any schools and colleges in majority black neighbourhoods. They also completely ignore other correlating stats such as how 74% of black kids are raised without fathers. May be if more black males started acting like men, stayed around and raised their children so many of them wouldn’t be getting into these situations to begin with. "Instead they virtue signal about socioeconomic hardships." Yes, socioecomics is heavily correlated with criminaltiy, there's vasts amount of research to confirm this. Do you deny this? "Like there aren’t any schools and colleges in majority black neighbourhoods." Yeah and they're typically underfunded and falling apart "They also completely ignore other correlating stats such as how 74% of black kids are raised without fathers." Yes again this is tied to socioeconomics, this is very well documented. Why do you keep ignoring this? Do you just dislike academic studies and data just go by feelings? That's what you're bascially telling me. Lemma ask you another question (I noticed you didn't answer my first question). Let's say you have two families, a rich black family and a poor white one. Tell me, which do you think is more likely to produce well educated, successful children and which is more likely to produce children who become single fathers and criminals? You’re too quick to alleviate them of responsibility. Look at the U.K. Of the minorities Indians and black Caribbeans arrived here roughly around the same time mostly from poverty. 60 years later Indians have among the lowest poverty rates in the country. And among the lowest crime rates. Blacks on the other hand have higher poverty rate and the highest crime rate in the country. Why have Indians been a success but blacks left behind? |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jun 15, 2020 3:09:11 GMT
"Instead they virtue signal about socioeconomic hardships." Yes, socioecomics is heavily correlated with criminaltiy, there's vasts amount of research to confirm this. Do you deny this? "Like there aren’t any schools and colleges in majority black neighbourhoods." Yeah and they're typically underfunded and falling apart "They also completely ignore other correlating stats such as how 74% of black kids are raised without fathers." Yes again this is tied to socioeconomics, this is very well documented. Why do you keep ignoring this? Do you just dislike academic studies and data just go by feelings? That's what you're bascially telling me. Lemma ask you another question (I noticed you didn't answer my first question). Let's say you have two families, a rich black family and a poor white one. Tell me, which do you think is more likely to produce well educated, successful children and which is more likely to produce children who become single fathers and criminals? You’re too quick to alleviate them of responsibility. Look at the U.K. Of the minorities Indians and black Caribbeans arrived here roughly around the same time mostly from poverty. 60 years later Indians have among the lowest poverty rates in the country. And among the lowest crime rates. Blacks on the other hand have higher poverty rate and the highest crime rate in the country. "You’re too quick to alleviate them of responsibility." You didn't answer my question. Which is more likely to produce criminals, the rich black family or the poor white one? Try to actually answer this time "Look at the U.K." I dunno much about UK so I can't comment. I would have to do some research on this (I suspect you're being a bit dissengenous though). I do know however that Nigerians immigrants to the US tend to be more educated and succesful than the general population, but again this is because of socioeconomics, we specifcally select for the cream of the crop when importing people from Nigeria (the ones with money). |
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