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Post by Rufus-T on Jun 13, 2020 20:45:54 GMT
This was released on the Memorial Day weekend on 1980. So, the movie is a few weeks over 40 years old. When it first came out, it got mostly mixed reviews. Stanley Kubrick even got a Razzie nomination for the worst director. How time have changed. It is now considered one of the best horror ever made. I have watched it many times, and I agree with that the critic got it very wrong back then. Like most Kubrick movie, it is one most visually stunning film. Again, like most Kubrick movie, it is a slow burn movie, so one may not appreciate it on the first viewing. What do you think? Did you like it? Did you think the critic got it wrong? Is it as great as people nowadays regarded it?
Btw, if you are a fan of the film, I highly recommend watching the documentary Room 237 (2012)
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Post by politicidal on Jun 13, 2020 20:57:56 GMT
7/10.
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Post by cynthiagreen on Jun 13, 2020 21:09:10 GMT
I would have seen it on video release in 1982/3... 6/10 - a bit underwhelmed at the time - and never revisited.
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Post by bravomailer on Jun 13, 2020 21:58:08 GMT
9/10 - and I don't like many horror flicks at all. Saw it in a large cinema when it came out and had no idea what it was about. Never heard of Stephen King.
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Post by teleadm on Jun 13, 2020 22:23:48 GMT
Liked the first half, when it's genuinely creepy and scary.
Why close such a huge hotel during the winter? That would have been a great time for all jet-set fancy alpine skiiers since it's located at a very attractive location near mountains...
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Post by movielover on Jun 13, 2020 22:25:07 GMT
8/10
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jun 13, 2020 22:25:59 GMT
8/10
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Post by Vits on Jun 14, 2020 16:50:06 GMT
Heeeeere's Vits to tell you that he agrees with most people's opinions on THE SHINING, except that 2 things ruined it: A) Imagine a tennis match where your opponent throws the ball at your face by accident over and over again and keeps waiting for you to hit it back. That's how I felt watching Shelley Duvall's performance. B) The way that JACK TORRANCE (the protagonist) transitions from normal to crazy was too rushed. As I was watching the movie, I was thinking "What if we had seen the downward spiral into madness?" and then I read that it was different in Stephen King's novel. I've said many times that changes in adaptations don't matter as long as they don't ruin the essence. By removing the element of JACK's struggle to stay sane, it comes off as if he had been evil yet sane all along. It ruined the character. Stanley Kubrick clearly had enough ideas to write an original script and that's what he should've done. Even if you think that's wrong, I still stand by what I said first because, while watching the movie (with no knowledge of the novel), I found the character to be flawed. That being said, there is a change that was for the better: Making the movie much more ambiguous. I'm not saying that the novel had too much exposition; I'm saying that I appreciated the ambiguety while watching the movie without knowing that I could find answers elsewhere. I'm also glad that DANNY TORRANCE (JACK's son) no longer meets his future self (Kubrick turned him into an imaginary friend). King sometimes tries to mix too many elements in his stories. We already have ghosts, telepathy and clairvoyance; time travel would've been overlook overkill! 8/10 DR. SLEEP tries to be a stand-alone movie and a direct sequel to THE SHINING. That's a problem, because both movies are very different in terms of tone, narrative and visual style. Things feel more jarring whenever an iconic shot is recreated. Honestly, I don't have a problem when a sequel severs ties with its predecessor if it's made decades later (especially with a different cast and crew), so I would've accepted it here. Everything was working without the references. In fact, the performances, characters, dialogue, plot, imagery, scares, editing and sound are top notch. 8/10 ------------------------------------- You can read comments of other movies in my blog.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 14, 2020 17:13:59 GMT
I love the way it looks and moves but I never get involved.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 15, 2020 0:24:11 GMT
I agree visually it looks great and there is some spooky use of sound but if you analyze it from performances they act TOO WEIRD. Only Scatman Crothers acts normal. But I can watch it now and then for the Jack stuff, however I usually skip the room scene because the woman in the bathtub is just too creepy.
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Post by Captain Spencer on Jun 15, 2020 1:34:04 GMT
I have to confess, I was never a huge fan of The Shining. I loved the book, but to me the movie just wasn't spooky or eerie enough. If anything, I found it more humorous than chilling. But overall, still not bad.
6.5/10
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Post by OldAussie on Jun 15, 2020 7:16:27 GMT
5/10 Only Kubrick movie to fall (dramatically) in my rating on a second and third viewing. The kid pedalling through the hotel is great. Most of the "scares" are pretty dumb.
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Post by hi224 on Jun 15, 2020 19:34:42 GMT
9/10.
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Post by Archelaus on Jun 15, 2020 19:56:30 GMT
9/10
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jun 16, 2020 3:33:32 GMT
Liked the first half, when it's genuinely creepy and scary. Why close such a huge hotel during the winter? That would have been a great time for all jet-set fancy alpine skiiers since it's located at a very attractive location near mountains... Its explained. The large cost of keeping the road open.
I wonder if winter hotel caretaker jobs exist anymore. I wouldn't do it for a billion after seeing the Shining
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jun 16, 2020 3:40:38 GMT
A movie that has gone down in my ratings. Still good, still Kubrick, still creepy. But the flaw is Jack Torrance. From normal to insane in 30 seconds. Why? Booze withdrawal somewhat but he starts seeing things when he starts really jonesing for a drink. In the book, its better explained. Jack finds a scrapbook in the basement (you can see it, a large white book by his typewriter). The scrapbook gets an evil hold on him.
Ahh, the novel. Typical King adaptations, any resemblance between the novel and the film are purely coincidental. But the book was somewhat unfilmable. The big horror element in the novel are he topiary animals, which come to life and attack Jack and Dick Halloran. you couldn't have done it realistically then. The Grady girls become the big horror element and they aren't in the book. I liked the movie better at first now I like the novel more
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Jun 17, 2020 15:22:21 GMT
The good: Kubrick's cinematography - he was the master! The bad: Cardboard, one-dimensional performances by Duval and Nicholson.
I have no issues with adaptation of novel's that veer from the story; however, this film was a bust. However, I love the opening scene! It's awesome art!!!
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Post by bravomailer on Jun 18, 2020 22:17:45 GMT
I recently saw the sequel, Doctor Sleep.
It centers (sort of) on Danny Torrance, the boy in The Shining who is now a middle-aged man who drifts from town to town and intermittently battles alcoholism. He comes into contact with a young girl, who also "shines", and the two are hunted by a cult whose members have the gift of shine too and use it for evil purposes.
The final battle takes place at the boarded-up Overlook Hotel and we see the same halls, ballroom, bar, stairway, maze, and even the living quarters where “REDRUM” can still be seen. There’s even an interesting stand-in for Lloyd the bartender.
I took off half a point for length and occasional gruesomeness.
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Post by millar70 on Jun 19, 2020 0:29:31 GMT
Why is it that folks that give films like this a 1 never come on the thread to give us a logical reason why they would give such a low score.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, of course, and I can understand not liking a film, but giving something a 1 ranking without some kind of explanation seems so weak to me.
Am I alone for thinking this?
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jun 19, 2020 2:47:58 GMT
I recently saw the sequel, Doctor Sleep. It centers (sort of) on Danny Torrance, the boy in The Shining who is now a middle-aged man who drifts from town to town and intermittently battles alcoholism. He comes into contact with a young girl, who also "shines", and the two are hunted by a cult whose members have the gift of shine too and use it for evil purposes. The final battle takes place at the boarded-up Overlook Hotel and we see the same halls, ballroom, bar, stairway, maze, and even the living quarters where “REDRUM” can still be seen. There’s even an interesting stand-in for Lloyd the bartender. I took off half a point for length and occasional gruesomeness. Loved the book, the movie, not so much. Hamstrung by having to stick the the movie Shining (hotel intact), not the book ending (hotel go boom). The book went by the book, the movie by the movie
And I loathed the ending
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