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Post by spooner5020 on Jun 26, 2020 2:23:04 GMT
This is not the new normal, it's the current abnormal. Exactly!!! This isn’t gonna be forever!!! |
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Post by amyghost on Jun 26, 2020 12:08:58 GMT
This is not the new normal, it's the current abnormal. Exactly!!! This isn’t gonna be forever!!! What worries me at times is that the public (significant sectors of it, anyway) seems on the way to becoming addicted to this sort of thinking, and are being subtly manipulated into the notion that life is forever after going to undergo some drastic change as the result of this virus. Those who think this way would do well do ponder on a similar pandemic that occurred just a little over fifty years ago, well within the memory span of many, both here on this board and throughout the country. It too was a global affair that claimed many lives, but both its treatment by the media and its cultural afterlife are hugely different from today. A little trivia question might be: How many of you even remember this event? And if you don't (and are old enough to have recall of it), what does this suggest to you about the manner in which the current pandemic is being handled today? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 26, 2020 16:10:29 GMT
I still say movie theaters are on their way out. Lol. Keep believing that. They’ve been struggling for years, and the pandemic has made things even worse. |
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Jun 27, 2020 0:26:07 GMT
I would always buy tickets for a corner seat in the front row specifically because people didn't usually sit there. I like having my space.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jun 27, 2020 3:39:39 GMT
Avatar 2 will save the day. December, 2021.
Just like that, Cameron will probably have the first 3 billion dollar flick.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jun 27, 2020 7:36:22 GMT
Exactly!!! This isn’t gonna be forever!!! What worries me at times is that the public (significant sectors of it, anyway) seems on the way to becoming addicted to this sort of thinking, and are being subtly manipulated into the notion that life is forever after going to undergo some drastic change as the result of this virus. Those who think this way would do well do ponder on a similar pandemic that occurred just a little over fifty years ago, well within the memory span of many, both here on this board and throughout the country. It too was a global affair that claimed many lives, but both its treatment by the media and its cultural afterlife are hugely different from today. A little trivia question might be: How many of you even remember this event? And if you don't (and are old enough to have recall of it), what does this suggest to you about the manner in which the current pandemic is being handled today? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_fluMy Dad, who was around at the time, told me about that a few months ago. I'd never even heard about it until this year. And I'm a huge history buff. |
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Post by amyghost on Jun 27, 2020 11:45:06 GMT
What worries me at times is that the public (significant sectors of it, anyway) seems on the way to becoming addicted to this sort of thinking, and are being subtly manipulated into the notion that life is forever after going to undergo some drastic change as the result of this virus. Those who think this way would do well do ponder on a similar pandemic that occurred just a little over fifty years ago, well within the memory span of many, both here on this board and throughout the country. It too was a global affair that claimed many lives, but both its treatment by the media and its cultural afterlife are hugely different from today. A little trivia question might be: How many of you even remember this event? And if you don't (and are old enough to have recall of it), what does this suggest to you about the manner in which the current pandemic is being handled today? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_fluMy Dad, who was around at the time, told me about that a few months ago. I'd never even heard about it until this year. And I'm a huge history buff. You'd be amazed at the number of people who were adults at the time who don't recall it until reminded. My sister, who is 13 years older than me had forgotten all about it until I mentioned it to her; when she looked it up, she had clear recollection of it, but also recalled that so little had been made of the event that it had pretty nearly completely dropped out of her memory. She's since mentioned it to a number of her friends and acquaintances, and gotten a similar response--until their memory was jogged, most of them had totally forgotten that this previous pandemic had ever occurred. And it was at least as major in its effects globally as the current Covid virus is. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 27, 2020 12:22:27 GMT
My Dad, who was around at the time, told me about that a few months ago. I'd never even heard about it until this year. And I'm a huge history buff. You'd be amazed at the number of people who were adults at the time who don't recall it until reminded. My sister, who is 13 years older than me had forgotten all about it until I mentioned it to her; when she looked it up, she had clear recollection of it, but also recalled that so little had been made of the event that it had pretty nearly completely dropped out of her memory. She's since mentioned it to a number of her friends and acquaintances, and gotten a similar response--until their memory was jogged, most of them had totally forgotten that this previous pandemic had ever occurred. And it was at least as major in its effects globally as the current Covid virus is. I may not have been around back then, but I’m pretty sure the Hong Kong Flu didn’t cause movie theaters to get shut down. |
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jun 28, 2020 6:41:53 GMT
My Dad, who was around at the time, told me about that a few months ago. I'd never even heard about it until this year. And I'm a huge history buff. You'd be amazed at the number of people who were adults at the time who don't recall it until reminded. My sister, who is 13 years older than me had forgotten all about it until I mentioned it to her; when she looked it up, she had clear recollection of it, but also recalled that so little had been made of the event that it had pretty nearly completely dropped out of her memory. She's since mentioned it to a number of her friends and acquaintances, and gotten a similar response--until their memory was jogged, most of them had totally forgotten that this previous pandemic had ever occurred. And it was at least as major in its effects globally as the current Covid virus is. I'm wondering is it the present media landscape - 24-hour news, Internet, social media, etc. that has made us more hyper-aware of this latest pandemic? There was none of that back in those days. Or maybe people were terrified back in '68 and have just blocked it out? |
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Post by amyghost on Jun 28, 2020 10:08:21 GMT
You'd be amazed at the number of people who were adults at the time who don't recall it until reminded. My sister, who is 13 years older than me had forgotten all about it until I mentioned it to her; when she looked it up, she had clear recollection of it, but also recalled that so little had been made of the event that it had pretty nearly completely dropped out of her memory. She's since mentioned it to a number of her friends and acquaintances, and gotten a similar response--until their memory was jogged, most of them had totally forgotten that this previous pandemic had ever occurred. And it was at least as major in its effects globally as the current Covid virus is. I may not have been around back then, but I’m pretty sure the Hong Kong Flu didn’t cause movie theaters to get shut down. That's part of my point: it was precisely the same type of pandemic situation we're seeing today, but the response was very different, and certainly less panic-driven. |
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Post by amyghost on Jun 28, 2020 10:25:09 GMT
You'd be amazed at the number of people who were adults at the time who don't recall it until reminded. My sister, who is 13 years older than me had forgotten all about it until I mentioned it to her; when she looked it up, she had clear recollection of it, but also recalled that so little had been made of the event that it had pretty nearly completely dropped out of her memory. She's since mentioned it to a number of her friends and acquaintances, and gotten a similar response--until their memory was jogged, most of them had totally forgotten that this previous pandemic had ever occurred. And it was at least as major in its effects globally as the current Covid virus is. I'm wondering is it the present media landscape - 24-hour news, Internet, social media, etc. that has made us more hyper-aware of this latest pandemic? There was none of that back in those days. Or maybe people were terrified back in '68 and have just blocked it out? I'd say it was definitely the former--no social media, and little of the sort of 'round-the-clock 'journalism' of today. Less sensationalism over information in news reporting. And Vietnam was the main concern of the day, cancelling out pretty much anything but cursory notice of the pandemic. People were definitely not going around terrified about it, I recall that for certain. Other than some topical jokes being made about it, there really wasn't much being made over the whole thing. Tough to imagine that in today's climate of hysteria. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 28, 2020 17:45:32 GMT
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Post by amyghost on Jun 28, 2020 19:13:57 GMT
The virus, its spread, and the effects it had on global health were as virtually near to identical as can be; it was the public and media response to it that were radically different from now. The quoted article makes the point that Woodstock did not occur at the peak of the flu's season, but although it attempts to suggest that covid-19's death rate will be higher than the 1 million who succumbed to H3N2, it gives no hard data or even estimates to back this assertion, and it gives absolutely no data explaining why covid-19 is somehow 'different' from H3N2. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 28, 2020 19:23:32 GMT
The virus, its spread, and the effects it had on global health were as virtually near to identical as can be; it was the public and media response to it that were radically different from now. The quoted article makes the point that Woodstock did not occur at the peak of the flu's season, but although it attempts to suggest that covid-19's death rate will be higher than the 1 million who succumbed to H3N2, it gives no hard data or even estimates to back this assertion, and it gives absolutely no data explaining why covid-19 is somehow 'different' from H3N2. More people in the U.S. have died from COVID-19 compared to the number of people who died from H3N2. |
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Post by amyghost on Jun 28, 2020 22:51:44 GMT
The virus, its spread, and the effects it had on global health were as virtually near to identical as can be; it was the public and media response to it that were radically different from now. The quoted article makes the point that Woodstock did not occur at the peak of the flu's season, but although it attempts to suggest that covid-19's death rate will be higher than the 1 million who succumbed to H3N2, it gives no hard data or even estimates to back this assertion, and it gives absolutely no data explaining why covid-19 is somehow 'different' from H3N2. More people in the U.S. have died from COVID-19 compared to the number of people who died from H3N2. But globally they have not. The reasons that this is so in the US are likely myriad, just as they were in Italy, another country particularly hard hit by the virus. This article gives some enlightening points on just that: www.nationofchange.org/2020/03/30/observing-elites-manipulate-our-fear-covid-19-propaganda-and-knowledge/and, btw, Nation of Change is emphatically not a rightwing conspiracy-chasing site. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jun 28, 2020 22:54:39 GMT
Globally, other countries are supposedly doing a better job of managing the situation than the United States. Even then, many people believe it’s likely that countries like China are actually downplaying their numbers. |
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Post by amyghost on Jun 29, 2020 20:53:33 GMT
Globally, other countries are supposedly doing a better job of managing the situation than the United States. Even then, many people believe it’s likely that countries like China are actually downplaying their numbers. Possibly so, but this still doesn't translate to this pandemic being any more 'deadly' than the one of 1968. |
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