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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jun 23, 2020 22:23:07 GMT
For lack of a better term, the albums that changed Rock abruptly.
Oddly, two have nevermind/never mind
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jun 23, 2020 23:15:08 GMT
Or There'll probably never be a consensus on which is more "important", RAMONES came first but Never Mind the Bollocks "popularised" the movement and is more of a cultural touchstone.
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Post by Winston Wolfe on Jun 24, 2020 2:14:15 GMT
The first Heavy Metal album ever.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jun 24, 2020 5:04:03 GMT
^ If you want to know the impact this album had, listen to The Beatles' Help! in early '65, and then Rubber Soul in late '65 after The Beatles met/heard Dylan during their US tour that year. Who else was writing songs like Like a Rolling Stone or Desolation Row in '65? Absolutely nobody. ^ If arguably not the start of psychedelia, it's the early pinnacle of the genre, and the album that planted the seed for progressive rock and the notion of using studio production as an artistic tool, with the album being the work of art itself. ^ The album that invented the notion of the guitar hero. Hendrix may not have invented metal, but metal (and most all hard rock) wouldn't have existed without him. ^ Did for the late 70s/80s what Hendrix did for the late 60s/70s. One can argue Eddie's influence wasn't as positive and that 80s guitar playing devolved into wankery, but there's no denying this set a new bar level for skill. ^ First true prog album, though there are some significant predecessors (Moody Blues, Procul Harum). It's also a flat-out masterpiece and still sounds shockingly original today despite its indelible influence on the genre. ^ People cite Nirvana's Nevermind as the most influential 90s album, but I think OK Computer's influence was far more profound. Nirvana effectively ended hair metal, but alternative rock/metal was already a "thing," all Nirvana did was popularize it. Their effect lasted through the life of grunge and alt. rock, which was short-lived. Meanwhile, OK Computer's influence is still ongoing 20+ years later, and we largely have Radiohead to thank for popularizing the merger of electronic music and rock. Perhaps its blasphemous to choose this album over Metallica's almost equally influential (and much better) 80s albums, but there's no denying that THIS was the album that brought heavy metal to the mainstream in the 90s. ^ If Metallica set the bar for 80s metal in general, Slayer essentially set the bar for what would become extreme metal here. Death and black metal basically took this template and added harsher vocals to the mix, but this still stands as arguably THE doorway from mainstream metal into the extreme underground. That's enough for now.
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 24, 2020 11:33:34 GMT
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Post by Zos on Jun 24, 2020 15:52:02 GMT
Or There'll probably never be a consensus on which is more "important", RAMONES came first but Never Mind the Bollocks "popularised" the movement and is more of a cultural touchstone. Ramones influenced the London scene so was more important, "Bollocks" was late out for various reasons and so the scene was more or less dying by then. UK punk was hugely a singles scene, Like the Garage "Nuggets" one. Horses by Patti Smith was also hugely important. Bollocks is a better album than the Ramones one though for me, just less influential apart from to 2nd wave punks.
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Post by bravomailer on Jun 24, 2020 15:59:48 GMT
Sgt Pepper would be the most important one. Though I can't say I liked it that much, it did open doors.
The Byrds' Sweethearts of the Rodeo paved the way for country rock.
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Post by Zos on Jun 25, 2020 12:09:56 GMT
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Post by sostie on Jun 26, 2020 23:04:48 GMT
Or There'll probably never be a consensus on which is more "important", RAMONES came first but Never Mind the Bollocks "popularised" the movement and is more of a cultural touchstone. I'd say that without the Sex Pistols its debatable whether The Ramones would ever been as successful as they were. They were pretty much ignored outside New York, and were only ever appreciated outside their "hometown" when they visited the UK and were embraced by a punk movement that had already grown despite them. Ramones certainly influenced some bands to "speed up", but many bands had already had or would form directly because of the influence of the Pistols - The Clash, Gen X, Siouxsie & The Banshees, X-Ray Spex, Buzzcocks. As for the albums themselves (both great, both important) I never understood why some people compare them - they are the debuts from probably the biggest /most important punks band from their respective sides of the Atlantic, they have that in common, but they sound completely different to each other.
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Post by sostie on Jun 26, 2020 23:11:56 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jun 26, 2020 23:17:09 GMT
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Jun 27, 2020 0:10:46 GMT
Or There'll probably never be a consensus on which is more "important", RAMONES came first but Never Mind the Bollocks "popularised" the movement and is more of a cultural touchstone. As for the albums themselves (both great, both important) I never understood why some people compare them - they are the debuts from probably the biggest /most important punks band from their respective sides of the Atlantic I guess that's probably enough reason for most people.
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 27, 2020 0:39:42 GMT
I was going to post Autobahn.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jun 27, 2020 2:20:49 GMT
I was a kid fascinated my music in the 70's. And never heard of Kraftwerk. I'll admit I was stuck in the sticks. Were the popular in the more urban places in the US?
Disco had been around for a while before SNF soundtrack came out
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Post by NJtoTX on Jun 27, 2020 3:19:12 GMT
In the U.K., at least '
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Post by DrKrippen on Jun 28, 2020 20:34:24 GMT
The Blues had a bastard child, they called it Rock and Roll. Howlin' Wolf Moaning In The MoonlightMuddy Waters' early influential stuff was released as singles and collected here. Muddy Waters The Chess Box (1989) Great blues disc by Junior Wells and Buddy Guy. Buddy Guy is still around influencing things. Junior Wells/Buddy Guy Hoodoo Man Blues
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jun 28, 2020 23:10:25 GMT
Van Halen's debut pretty much shaped 80s hard rock
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Post by Admin on Jun 28, 2020 23:11:50 GMT
Van Halen's debut pretty much shaped 80s hard rock Thanks to Gene Simmons.
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Post by sostie on Jun 29, 2020 14:28:15 GMT
I was a kid fascinated my music in the 70's. And never heard of Kraftwerk. I'll admit I was stuck in the sticks. Were the popular in the more urban places in the US?
Disco had been around for a while before SNF soundtrack came out
Very true, but it's arguable the album/film made Disco a massive worldwide phenomenon. I also think it made the soundtrack album a more viable financial consideration for film studios. There had been big selling pop soundtracks in the past - Beatles and Elvis films for instance. And "jukebox" soundtracks like American Graffiti. But a successful compilation soundtrack made for a film were not as common until after SNF release, and certainly not considered a big money making potential. On the subject of SNF, I watched it in full the other week forthefirst time in decades. It's a pretty great film. It suffers from some poor post synch/over dubbing, but is a lot grittier than I remembered, and Travolta is outstanding.
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Post by bravomailer on Jun 29, 2020 14:34:15 GMT
Along with EC's track I Shot The Sheriff, this soundtrack popularized reggae. I used to call it "Reggae 101".
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