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Post by glozone on Jul 6, 2020 22:21:17 GMT
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Post by flyboyla on Jul 7, 2020 8:21:48 GMT
I’m completely shocked by this news. I guess I’m one of the few that loves Kristian. She is Days Of Our Lives. One half of the greatest super couples on the show. I think she will be greatly missed as she is one of the last Hortons on the show. I bet she will leave with Rafe.
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Post by leafs27 on Jul 7, 2020 13:21:47 GMT
THIS IS THE BEST NEWS I HAVE HEARD ALL DAY!!!
I have nothing against Kristian but I CANNOT STAND HOPE as you all know. She's been utterly useless on the show since Bo left and her stories have been completely ridiculous. They turned Aiden into a psycho when their story was actually quite lovely. Then nighttime Hope? Ugh...no thanks. She has nothing to do, I am totally ok with this. I have always felt like her character was never developed, Hope was always a prop or foil for the people she interacted with. The only trait we know about her is that she can't cook.
I do feel somewhat nostalgic about the end of an era and all, but honestly, I doubt any of you will miss the character being on the show.
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Post by leafs27 on Jul 7, 2020 13:23:46 GMT
LOL POPPED AWAY!!!
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Post by leafs27 on Jul 7, 2020 13:31:46 GMT
A poster named PhoenixRising05 on the Daytime Royalty board wrote this, I think it's quite accurate:
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Post by glozone on Jul 7, 2020 13:56:38 GMT
I’m completely shocked by this news. I guess I’m one of the few that loves Kristian. She is Days Of Our Lives. One half of the greatest super couples on the show. I think she will be greatly missed as she is one of the last Hortons on the show. I bet she will leave with Rafe. No question that, whatever some people think about her, Kristian has been a huge presence on Days, as big or bigger than Deidre Hall. I didn't hate Hope, and there were times I liked her a lot, but I do think it's time for the character to get a rest. She hasn't worked post-Bo, and we have a lot of veteran heroines of her type, and she's the only one without her "other half" so she makes sense. What would be good is if down the road they can get Peter and Kristian to both agree to come back for like a 2-month story in the summer that brings Bo back to life and gives Bope a HEA. From what I've seen, apparently Kristian was the highest paid cast member by far, so one thing is that this should open up some budget for them.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Jul 7, 2020 14:11:57 GMT
I'm a little annoyed with my browser, because I typed up a bunch of stuff in a reply last night and it went stupid after I hit submit and didn't post; and I didn't feel like re-typing it then. And for some reason the auto-draft didn't help me out...
This is rather surprising; and I am curious if this was actually the plan before the current shutdown or if it's a more recent decision to just not return. I feel like it could go either way. I mean, if it was planned for her to actually leave back when they were filming, that would group her in with some of the other actors being written off, like Chandler, Freddie and Galen; yet why are we only just hearing about it now, when their departures were announced even before quarantine. Plus, the others being let go always smacked of cost saving measures on the heels of the show's renewal; and possibly a condition of that renewal. Given Kristian's seniority on the show, it's probably she commands one of the higher salaries in the cast, but at the same time she's arguably considered Days royalty, figuratively and sometimes literally; so it seems unlikely they would let her go just to save the money, either without great reluctance or some other motivating factor, like if she expressed interest to leave.
How her departure plays out on screen will probably most telling. She says she's shot her last episode, but that could either mean they wrote an actual departure storyline that they filmed to explain her leaving. Or it just means that she's not interested in coming back, and whatever the last thing she shot was, is her de facto final episode; and when they go back into production they'll have to insert something to explain her departure off screen. I think the biggest reason, at least for me, to suspect this was a more recent decisions is that it wasn't announced with the other cast departures months ago; and only seems to be announced now that plans for production to eventually resume have started taking shape. Before that it didn't matter if any of them wanted to come back, when there was no indication if and when they could.
On a side note, it just occurred to me, that between the original, planned hiatus and the subsequent shutdown due to quarantine, which if memory serves came about just a few weeks after Days had resumed production; Days will have hardly filmed anything in that last year once they come back in September. Like they'll have maybe filmed a couple of months out of an entire twelve month span; because the original shutdown started when, October or November?
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Post by glozone on Jul 7, 2020 14:31:15 GMT
I'm a little annoyed with my browser, because I typed up a bunch of stuff in a reply last night and it went stupid after I hit submit and didn't post; and I didn't feel like re-typing it then. And for some reason the auto-draft didn't help me out... This is rather surprising; and I am curious if this was actually the plan before the current shutdown or if it's a more recent decision to just not return. I feel like it could go either way. I mean, if it was planned for her to actually leave back when they were filming, that would group her in with some of the other actors being written off, like Chandler, Freddie and Galen; yet why are we only just hearing about it now, when their departures were announced even before quarantine. Plus, the others being let go always smacked of cost saving measures on the heels of the show's renewal; and possibly a condition of that renewal. Given Kristian's seniority on the show, it's probably she commands one of the higher salaries in the cast, but at the same time she's arguably considered Days royalty, figuratively and sometimes literally; so it seems unlikely they would let her go just to save the money, either without great reluctance or some other motivating factor, like if she expressed interest to leave. How her departure plays out on screen will probably most telling. She says she's shot her last episode, but that could either mean they wrote an actual departure storyline that they filmed to explain her leaving. Or it just means that she's not interested in coming back, and whatever the last thing she shot was, is her de facto final episode; and when they go back into production they'll have to insert something to explain her departure off screen. I think the biggest reason, at least for me, to suspect this was a more recent decisions is that it wasn't announced with the other cast departures months ago; and only seems to be announced now that plans for production to eventually resume have started taking shape. Before that it didn't matter if any of them wanted to come back, when there was no indication if and when they could. On a side note, it just occurred to me, that between the original, planned hiatus and the subsequent shutdown due to quarantine, which if memory serves came about just a few weeks after Days had resumed production; Days will have hardly filmed anything in that last year once they come back in September. Like they'll have maybe filmed a couple of months out of an entire twelve month span; because the original shutdown started when, October or November? Yeah, I think November. I think I recall them breaking for Thanksgiving and not coming back until whenever that was, early February or something. And yeah, then apparently it was about a month later that they broke again. From what I'm seeing at Daytime Royalty, it looks like KA's departure was not known in advance. So, we're likely looking at a situation where Hope's last episode is some random episode that doesn't indicate her departure whatsoever, and then a week later or something Julie will be talking to Ciara like "Can you believe your Mom got that new job to be police chief of Milan and moved away?"
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Post by leafs27 on Jul 7, 2020 14:52:06 GMT
Yeah that is how I understand it. She decided to leave during the lockdown and apparently there has been no exit filmed.
There are talks that she was in contract negotiation. I am sure that had something to do with it - they wanted her to take a cut and she said no? I don't know. Perhaps they let her go for financial reasons/told her they weren't bringing her back when production resumes and allowed her to position it as her leaving.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Jul 7, 2020 15:10:46 GMT
I'm a little annoyed with my browser, because I typed up a bunch of stuff in a reply last night and it went stupid after I hit submit and didn't post; and I didn't feel like re-typing it then. And for some reason the auto-draft didn't help me out... This is rather surprising; and I am curious if this was actually the plan before the current shutdown or if it's a more recent decision to just not return. I feel like it could go either way. I mean, if it was planned for her to actually leave back when they were filming, that would group her in with some of the other actors being written off, like Chandler, Freddie and Galen; yet why are we only just hearing about it now, when their departures were announced even before quarantine. Plus, the others being let go always smacked of cost saving measures on the heels of the show's renewal; and possibly a condition of that renewal. Given Kristian's seniority on the show, it's probably she commands one of the higher salaries in the cast, but at the same time she's arguably considered Days royalty, figuratively and sometimes literally; so it seems unlikely they would let her go just to save the money, either without great reluctance or some other motivating factor, like if she expressed interest to leave. How her departure plays out on screen will probably most telling. She says she's shot her last episode, but that could either mean they wrote an actual departure storyline that they filmed to explain her leaving. Or it just means that she's not interested in coming back, and whatever the last thing she shot was, is her de facto final episode; and when they go back into production they'll have to insert something to explain her departure off screen. I think the biggest reason, at least for me, to suspect this was a more recent decisions is that it wasn't announced with the other cast departures months ago; and only seems to be announced now that plans for production to eventually resume have started taking shape. Before that it didn't matter if any of them wanted to come back, when there was no indication if and when they could. On a side note, it just occurred to me, that between the original, planned hiatus and the subsequent shutdown due to quarantine, which if memory serves came about just a few weeks after Days had resumed production; Days will have hardly filmed anything in that last year once they come back in September. Like they'll have maybe filmed a couple of months out of an entire twelve month span; because the original shutdown started when, October or November? Yeah, I think November. I think I recall them breaking for Thanksgiving and not coming back until whenever that was, early February or something. And yeah, then apparently it was about a month later that they broke again. From what I'm seeing at Daytime Royalty, it looks like KA's departure was not known in advance. So, we're likely looking at a situation where Hope's last episode is some random episode that doesn't indicate her departure whatsoever, and then a week later or something Julie will be talking to Ciara like "Can you believe your Mom got that new job to be police chief of Milan and moved away?" I could be wrong, but I feel like they didn't start filming again until early March - maybe late February. The renewal came down at the end of January; and there was all this speculation about when they would resume filming. There were initial reports or assumptions that it would be one date and then that date came and went and they were still shutdown; and I recall Freddie mentioned in one of his podcasts, where it was like, mid-February and they still didn't know when they were coming back. And I think that was before they let him and Chandler go. But there was also a report explaining how, because everyone had been let out of their contract for that original shutdown, they couldn't resume production right away, until the new deals were finalized, because the writers would need to know who was actually, officially coming back; in order to know who to write for (and probably determine who they had to write off). That lead to the writers needing a few weeks to prepare the new episodes before they could be shot. Either way, it was a super short period between when production resumed and when they had to shut down again. And the more I think about it, I wonder how this has affected their income. I mean, they're probably not in any worse circumstances than the average person affected by the pandemic, maybe a little more financially secure, but you figure they get paid per episode, on the one hand it could be a wash, since they have filmed the last year's worth of episodes, just in a more condensed time frame. But on the other hand, the bulk of that was all done by last November; and they shot maybe a dozen or so episodes in the spring before shutting down again. No doubt the crew has probably been hit worse; and hopefully the studio or union or somebody has been able to assist them through all of this. With the actors it's just more of a curiosity.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Jul 17, 2020 3:20:40 GMT
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Post by stargazer1682 on Jul 17, 2020 3:21:20 GMT
It's interesting to hear what the catalyst was. Considering how she says she has not intention of doing guest returns or anything - just completely cutting off any involvement with the show, not even coming back long enough to wrap-up the story (especially considering they were planning a temporary exit that could have dove-tailed into her decision to leave for good) - she must have been pissed for them to suggest having her completely off canvas for months.
And I can't entirely blame her. If they said it'd be for a couple of weeks, maybe a week at most, that wouldn't seem all that unreasonable, but 4-5 months?? I'm not exactly a fan of Hope's, but the hell were they thinking?
They must be in some serious financial trouble after this latest contract renewal; because this smacks of trying to save themselves some serious money.
I thought their contracts had some type of language specifying the minimum and/or maximum number of episodes they could be used for in a given period of time. Didn't they run into that issue with one of the actors a couple of years ago, where they had unexpectedly used their character in so much, they had pull way back on the episodes they used them the rest of the year? It might have been the other way around. The details are foggy, it just seems vaguely familiar as something that happened once, but it might just be my memory playing tricks on me. And if it did happen, I don't remember who. I kind of want to say it was Peter, but that would have made it a while ago....
At any rate, with Kristian, no doubt they would have used their 13 week cycle clause and taken her off contract during that kind of chunk of time; or not even give her a new contract, seeing how things were playing out before quarantine. That might be a reason why she doesn't want to come back, because who knows what they'd do once she was under contract again, even short term.
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Post by leafs27 on Jul 17, 2020 14:39:06 GMT
Sounds to me like they were trying to save money/cut costs and asked her to take this break, which is not unheard of for characters/actors on this show, and she was butt hurt and called their bluff and quit. She probably hoped they would rethink their stance and they didn't, so she's out. That's why she's not getting an exit storyline. If it was something more mutual, she would have come back to film her exit.
According to everything I have read, she is paid A LOT more than the other vets, takes up a HUGE chunk of the salary.
Let's be honest, no disrespect to KA, but other than Falcon Crest, Melrose Place and some shitty TV movies, what else has she done acting-wise?
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Post by flyboyla on Jul 18, 2020 1:12:07 GMT
Kristian was part of the greatest love story of all time at Days. Her and Peter lit up the screens and had the best romance in soap opera history in my opinion. But let’s face it, since Peter left, the character of Hope wasn’t interesting anymore. There’s really nothing left for her to do. I will definitely miss her, because she is such a legacy on the show. And, she’s one of the last remaining Hortons on the show as well. It will be strange not having Bo and Hope get their happily ever after. They at least deserved that.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Jul 18, 2020 1:33:12 GMT
Kristian was part of the greatest love story of all time at Days. Her and Peter lit up the screens and had the best romance in soap opera history in my opinion. But let’s face it, since Peter left, the character of Hope wasn’t interesting anymore. There’s really nothing left for her to do. I will definitely miss her, because she is such a legacy on the show. And, she’s one of the last remaining Hortons on the show as well. It will be strange not having Bo and Hope get their happily ever after. They at least deserved that. Even still, even before Bo was killed off, what was the last good story they had? Zack's death? Even that was undermined with the bullshit of making Chelsea responsible and keeping it a secret from Hope; and the crap with Patrick, etc. They might have had an iconic story 35+ years ago, but they spent a lot of the time since just kind of dicking around, unsure of what to do with Hope, much less Bo and Hope. I mean, they weren't unique in the writers' formula of constantly breaking them up, just to put them back together, but man did it get old with them.
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Post by leafs27 on Jul 20, 2020 13:46:18 GMT
When I started watching the show, Bo and Hope had already been a couple and had Shawn D so I missed their whole romance. I always loved Bo but I never liked Hope. Then she died on the Cruise of Deception and I saw Bo with Carly and Billie and I loved him with Carly. So when Hope came back, I had zero emotional attachment to them as a couple.
While I agree, they are iconic and KA has meant a lot to the show, they haven't known what to do with Hope without Bo. And it's become very evident without the stupid Princess Gina stuff, they still don't know what to do with her.
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Post by leafs27 on Jul 28, 2020 13:39:44 GMT
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