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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 9, 2020 1:57:39 GMT
Maybe this is topical after all. I was just noticing how gullible atheists are and I was reminded of the tricks some people do on the internet.
For example have you ever seen cats on the internet playing the shell game? The shell game is one where a dried green pea is placed under one of three half shells of walnuts. Then the half shells are swished around and the object is to note which the pea is under now. Some people use Dixie cups and a ping pong ball to do much the same thing.
There are numerous videos of cats tapping the correct "shell" or Dixie cup so that it appears the cat followed the switching and swishing around. However some of the videos do not reveal what was under the other Dixie cups or shells. There might be something under all of them. Some videos do reveal that there is indeed nothing under the shells or cups not selected, however there is only the one correct choice. Perhaps the cat was trained to always make that choice and the switching around is carefully done so the ping pong ball or pea is under the one the cat always picks.
Or there could be some clever, high tech video editing, of course.
Might you let me know if you have a link to a really convincing animal playing the shell game? I just wonder what sort of tricks go on.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 9, 2020 10:23:59 GMT
One way to catch a lot of animal videos is to watch Animals Unscripted on TBD. It is on at times you might have to DVR it.
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Post by Rodney Farber on Jul 9, 2020 13:54:08 GMT
Maybe this is topical after all. I was just noticing how gullible atheists are ... I was just noticing how theists like to make insulting, emphatic assertions about atheists without showing any evidence thereof. Please show the numerous examples that allowed you to reach that conclusion. "Faith is gullibility" - Matt Dillahunty |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 10, 2020 1:28:05 GMT
Maybe this is topical after all. I was just noticing how gullible atheists are ... I was just noticing how theists like to make insulting, emphatic assertions about atheists without showing any evidence thereof. Please show the numerous examples that allowed you to reach that conclusion. "Faith is gullibility" - Matt Dillahunty Explaining it to you requires that you not be gullible and would know what is or is not "evidence." In case you can meet those conditions, please note that there is widespread confusion of science ceteris paribus and statistical analysis (which can be far less than science). Many issues in politics are driven by too much faith in statistical analysis as though it can have the same force in argument as science ceteris paribus. |
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 10, 2020 2:38:22 GMT
Shell games like Three Card Monty are rigged. So is the Bible. What's that? |
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Post by rizdek on Jul 10, 2020 23:38:15 GMT
Maybe this is topical after all. I was just noticing how gullible atheists are and I was reminded of the tricks some people do on the internet. For example have you ever seen cats on the internet playing the shell game? The shell game is one where a dried green pea is placed under one of three half shells of walnuts. Then the half shells are swished around and the object is to note which the pea is under now. Some people use Dixie cups and a ping pong ball to do much the same thing. There are numerous videos of cats tapping the correct "shell" or Dixie cup so that it appears the cat followed the switching and swishing around. However some of the videos do not reveal what was under the other Dixie cups or shells. There might be something under all of them. Some videos do reveal that there is indeed nothing under the shells or cups not selected, however there is only the one correct choice. Perhaps the cat was trained to always make that choice and the switching around is carefully done so the ping pong ball or pea is under the one the cat always picks. Or there could be some clever, high tech video editing, of course. Might you let me know if you have a link to a really convincing animal playing the shell game? I just wonder what sort of tricks go on. Are you speaking for yourself about an atheist who is gullible?
Sleight of hand is a fascinating art form and I've been tricked by someone with quick hands. Magicians regularly wow audiences with their abilities.
I could well imagine that a cat can actually keep up with someone's quick movement and keep track of where the item is under the shell/cup.
I observed a cat demonstrate such ability a few years ago. There was a bird feeder in our back yard about 5 ft off the ground. I saw a cat notice a bird landing in the small feede. The floor of the feeder was solid wood. The cat was directly under the feeder and therefore couldn't actually see the bird from where it was crouching. But it jumped straight up from its position beneath the feeder and reach over the edge of the feeder and caught bird. So...that suggests to me that not only are cats remarkably quick and but they can think ahead and plan. So keeping up with where the cup with the object might be well within a cat's abiity.
Or the cat may be noticing something that gives away where the cup with the item is by watching the person moving them. I remember reading about the horse that could 'do arithmetic.' Turned out the horse couldn't actually DO arithmetic...it could do something that I think may even have been more remarkable than counting to 3 or adding 2+2. He could sense/read the trainer's body language and knew from THAT what the right answer was
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 11, 2020 2:05:58 GMT
Maybe this is topical after all. I was just noticing how gullible atheists are and I was reminded of the tricks some people do on the internet. For example have you ever seen cats on the internet playing the shell game? The shell game is one where a dried green pea is placed under one of three half shells of walnuts. Then the half shells are swished around and the object is to note which the pea is under now. Some people use Dixie cups and a ping pong ball to do much the same thing. There are numerous videos of cats tapping the correct "shell" or Dixie cup so that it appears the cat followed the switching and swishing around. However some of the videos do not reveal what was under the other Dixie cups or shells. There might be something under all of them. Some videos do reveal that there is indeed nothing under the shells or cups not selected, however there is only the one correct choice. Perhaps the cat was trained to always make that choice and the switching around is carefully done so the ping pong ball or pea is under the one the cat always picks. Or there could be some clever, high tech video editing, of course. Might you let me know if you have a link to a really convincing animal playing the shell game? I just wonder what sort of tricks go on. Are you speaking for yourself about an atheist who is gullible?
Sleight of hand is a fascinating art form and I've been tricked by someone with quick hands. Magicians regularly wow audiences with their abilities.
I could well imagine that a cat can actually keep up with someone's quick movement and keep track of where the item is under the shell/cup.
I observed a cat demonstrate such ability a few years ago. There was a bird feeder in our back yard about 5 ft off the ground. I saw a cat notice a bird landing in the small feede. The floor of the feeder was solid wood. The cat was directly under the feeder and therefore couldn't actually see the bird from where it was crouching. But it jumped straight up from its position beneath the feeder and reach over the edge of the feeder and caught bird. So...that suggests to me that not only are cats remarkably quick and but they can think ahead and plan. So keeping up with where the cup with the object might be well within a cat's abiity.
Or the cat may be noticing something that gives away where the cup with the item is by watching the person moving them. I remember reading about the horse that could 'do arithmetic.' Turned out the horse couldn't actually DO arithmetic...it could do something that I think may even have been more remarkable than counting to 3 or adding 2+2. He could sense/read the trainer's body language and knew from THAT what the right answer was
No cats or dogs I've ever met think their reflection in a mirror is another animal. They just seem to know without checking that it's their own reflection, and pay no attention to it. Yet the internet is full of cats and dogs treating their own reflection in a mirror as a different animal. |
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Post by Rodney Farber on Jul 12, 2020 2:09:10 GMT
Shell games like Three Card Monty are rigged. So is the Bible. The shell game is a slight-of-hand maneuver. We all know that at the beginning. However, if the presenter has the ability to "switch" the pea surreptitiously after the player has made his/her choice, then, yes, the game is rigged. The Bible is not rigged. The more I read that book, the more I realize that it is just a compilation of short stories, like Grimm's Fairy Tales or Aesop's Fables. The rigging is done by those who have duped you into believing it is the word of God so that you will follow them and give them money.
Praise Jesus.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 12, 2020 12:51:04 GMT
Those videos are real. Cats have good hearing and can hear the pea/ping pong ball moving under the cup. Cats hunt tiny animals like mice in grass so they are skilled at sensing the slightest movement.
Not sure what this has to do with religion.
Then the people who make the videos that are not convincing are the problem? |
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