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Post by goz on Jul 13, 2020 4:54:09 GMT
LOL. Your ignorance is breathtaking ( pun intended ) You are too stupid to even breathe! You asked me. I told you. Just like the other night when you said I was thick as shit in the neck of a bottle, or something like that. Well, you are totally wrong. Why don't you look up a YouTube video on the subject of droplet infection for the dummies, if you can't even read a simple health line type description of the physics and medical facts about human droplet infection?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 13, 2020 5:02:17 GMT
You asked me. I told you. Just like the other night when you said I was thick as shit in the neck of a bottle, or something like that. Well, you are totally wrong. Why don't you look up a YouTube video on the subject of droplet infection for the dummies, if you can't even read a simple health line type description of the physics and medical facts about human droplet infection? It would be nice if you would become a droplet, and drop on out of here.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 13, 2020 8:15:42 GMT
Religion isn't the cause of the pandemic, but it has helped exacerbate it. For example, people insisting on going to church/religious ceremonies (I thought God was meant to be everywhere - why can't they worship him at home?) and ignoring social distancing will definitely have increased the spread of infections. A Facebook friend of mine found (or composed) and posted an interesting internet meme based on Isaiah 26:20. Actually there are lots of them based on the same verse. I saw another commercial on TV that suggests our hope is in "science" to the exclusion of something or other, I'm guessing they mean to the exclusion of religion. Of course they shouldn't mean that. Religion is not against science. Remember secure borders? The way I explain it is that there are two competing groups of people with only a rudimentary understanding of science and religion. Because they fail both science and religion they can believe the two are in a competition. While indeed there are people who expect too much in this world from religion, there are also indeed people who expect too much from science. Your comment appears to have a slight bias. Only very stupid people think the pandemic is a reason to "finally believe" in science. It reminds me of those "preachers" who after an earthquake suggest the victims were especially sinful. Some amateur "scientists" have a similar attitude, that perhaps the pandemic is punishment from Darwin for the lack of faith in science. That is ridiculous of course all the way around. One of the members of our little group here is especially in favor of the orderly world he expects science can eventually deliver. He remains oblivious of the inadequacy of science and its failures. It is funny how he is always asking for "evidence" from science of its failures. I tried to explain that is not how it works. If they give proof of their mistakes it will be by accident.
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Post by Isapop on Jul 13, 2020 13:44:14 GMT
It reminds me of those "preachers" who after an earthquake suggest the victims were especially sinful. Some amateur "scientists" have a similar attitude, that perhaps the pandemic is punishment from Darwin for the lack of faith in science. That is ridiculous of course all the way around. Would you cite examples of "amateur 'scientists'" suggesting that "the pandemic is punishment from Darwin"? I ask this because I am aware only of those Darwin natural selection "I got this" jokes circulating. And since they are obviously intended as JOKES, they couldn't possible qualify as any sort of polar equivalent to preachers who seriously suggest that victims of disasters were especially sinful.
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Post by goz on Jul 13, 2020 21:13:35 GMT
Well, you are totally wrong. Why don't you look up a YouTube video on the subject of droplet infection for the dummies, if you can't even read a simple health line type description of the physics and medical facts about human droplet infection? It would be nice if you would become a droplet, and drop on out of here. You seem to have a lot of trouble with drops and droplets and the science. Not only do you deny droplet infection by viruses butt you also claim that condensation trails from aircraft which are droplets of ice, are chemically enhanced. and somhoe dangerous. I am embarrassed for you on here.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 13, 2020 21:59:25 GMT
It reminds me of those "preachers" who after an earthquake suggest the victims were especially sinful. Some amateur "scientists" have a similar attitude, that perhaps the pandemic is punishment from Darwin for the lack of faith in science. That is ridiculous of course all the way around. Would you cite examples of "amateur 'scientists'" suggesting that "the pandemic is punishment from Darwin"? I ask this because I am aware only of those Darwin natural selection "I got this" jokes circulating. And since they are obviously intended as JOKES, they couldn't possible qualify as any sort of polar equivalent to preachers who seriously suggest that victims of disasters were especially sinful.
It's the attitude that the religious are somehow to blame, or the people in the United States are especially to blame, or that there is some "anti-science" bias.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 22:14:06 GMT
The main means of spread is called 'droplet infection' which is what is on your breath and anything, air salivia tears from your eyes mouth and nose. That is why masks can be effective in slowing down infective spread of viruses. www.verywellhealth.com/droplet-transmission-3956438#:~:text=Droplet%20transmission%20is%20the%20usual%20way%20that%20cold,mouth%20of%20those%20who%20are%20in%20close%20proximity. That material on your hands actually comes from the droplets in your eyes mouth and nose on your own hands, and other people's as there is very little infection in your sweat though this is possible. Baloney. "So if someone has a really, really vicious cold (which are caused by viruses), you would let him or her breath and cough on you? You wouldn't tell them to go away or stand back?" I asked you this and you mentioned you don't like people coughing on you. If you don't feel you are going to catch anything from them, what's the issue? Unless you feel, at least in part, that if they don't keep their social distance, and cough or breath on you. you'll catch something.
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Post by Isapop on Jul 13, 2020 22:14:44 GMT
Would you cite examples of "amateur 'scientists'" suggesting that "the pandemic is punishment from Darwin"? I ask this because I am aware only of those Darwin natural selection "I got this" jokes circulating. And since they are obviously intended as JOKES, they couldn't possible qualify as any sort of polar equivalent to preachers who seriously suggest that victims of disasters were especially sinful.
It's the attitude that the religious are somehow to blame, or the people in the United States are especially to blame, or that there is some "anti-science" bias. So, while we could all cite examples of preachers who seriously suggest that victims of disasters were especially sinful, you make a claim that there is an equal and opposite trend of "amateur 'scientists'" suggesting somehow that "the pandemic is punishment from Darwin". And yet, you cannot cite any examples. I suspected as much.
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Post by goz on Jul 13, 2020 22:16:58 GMT
Would you cite examples of "amateur 'scientists'" suggesting that "the pandemic is punishment from Darwin"? I ask this because I am aware only of those Darwin natural selection "I got this" jokes circulating. And since they are obviously intended as JOKES, they couldn't possible qualify as any sort of polar equivalent to preachers who seriously suggest that victims of disasters were especially sinful.
It's the attitude that the religious are somehow to blame, or the people in the United States are especially to blame, or that there is some "anti-science" bias. The religious are to blame if they deny the science of a pandemic and what could and should be done to stem the spread IF they ignore such advice. An example is that people who went to church as normal were NOT social distancing hence they contributed to further spread and so were to blame. The same goes for the people in the United States who didn't take the advice on measures that were necessary to stem the spread of cases. This was as a direct result of an anti-science bias.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 13, 2020 22:22:54 GMT
It's the attitude that the religious are somehow to blame, or the people in the United States are especially to blame, or that there is some "anti-science" bias. So, while we could all cite examples of preachers who seriously suggest that victims of disasters were especially sinful, you make a claim that there is an equal and opposite trend of "amateur 'scientists'" suggesting somehow that "the pandemic is punishment from Darwin". And yet, you cannot cite any examples. I suspected as much. You don't read "between the lines" very well. That is characteristic of the problem with both science and religion lately. People expect a word for word statement on anything. For example of course science isn't going to admit failures word for word. It is necessary to analyze the data yourself, for example on infant restraints for automobiles. If you can only know what you are told word for word, you have a cripplingly simplistic outlook.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 13, 2020 22:28:54 GMT
It's the attitude that the religious are somehow to blame, or the people in the United States are especially to blame, or that there is some "anti-science" bias. The religious are to blame if they deny the science of a pandemic and what could and should be done to stem the spread IF they ignore such advice. An example is that people who went to church as normal were NOT social distancing hence they contributed to further spread and so were to blame. The same goes for the people in the United States who didn't take the advice on measures that were necessary to stem the spread of cases. This was as a direct result of an anti-science bias. You've obviously memorized a narrative that isn't supported by data. Yes, the United States is especially different from other countries in that it has both crowded cities and a "Midwest" where in much of it you can be in one of three cars on the road. People do cross from one to the other of those areas. Yes, there might well be carriers without symptoms unwittingly contributing to the problem. But no, your narrative is not convincing scientific evidence of a religious problem. Remember border security? Or do you have the attention span of a goldfish?
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 13, 2020 22:33:23 GMT
Would you cite examples of "amateur 'scientists'" suggesting that "the pandemic is punishment from Darwin"? I ask this because I am aware only of those Darwin natural selection "I got this" jokes circulating. And since they are obviously intended as JOKES, they couldn't possible qualify as any sort of polar equivalent to preachers who seriously suggest that victims of disasters were especially sinful.
It's the attitude that ... the people in the United States are especially to blame, or that there is some "anti-science" bias. A view that Dr Anthony Fauci, America's top guy in so far as Covid is concerned articulated only just recently, it is worth reminding ourselves.
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Post by goz on Jul 13, 2020 22:34:16 GMT
The religious are to blame if they deny the science of a pandemic and what could and should be done to stem the spread IF they ignore such advice. An example is that people who went to church as normal were NOT social distancing hence they contributed to further spread and so were to blame. The same goes for the people in the United States who didn't take the advice on measures that were necessary to stem the spread of cases. This was as a direct result of an anti-science bias. You've obviously memorized a narrative that isn't supported by data. Yes, the United States is especially different from other countries in that it has both crowded cities and a "Midwest" where in much of it you can be in one of three cars on the road. People do cross from one to the other of those areas. Yes, there might well be carriers without symptoms unwittingly contributing to the problem. But no, your narrative is not convincing scientific evidence of a religious problem. Remember border security? Or do you have the attention span of a goldfish? I repeat. The religious denied the data, went to church and spread the disease further. Trump denied the data and didn't accept the science making up his own narrative and the USA is now the worst hit country as a result, your non-sequiturs notwithstanding.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 13, 2020 22:47:22 GMT
It's the attitude that ... the people in the United States are especially to blame, or that there is some "anti-science" bias. A view that Dr Anthony Fauci, America's top guy in so far as Covid is concerned articulated only just recently, it is worth reminding ourselves. I'm sure Trump appreciates your support. Although most atheists have a rather pedestrian world outlook, your problem appears more severe. Seriously expecting "science" to convict itself of anything is ridiculous. "The man is obviously guilty." "He can't be. I asked him and he said he isn't. What are you? Deaf?" Despite the way many people manipulate the data and even in some cases politicize the data, the truth can show through the rhetoric intended to cloud it.
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Post by goz on Jul 13, 2020 22:52:05 GMT
A view that Dr Anthony Fauci, America's top guy in so far as Covid is concerned articulated only just recently, it is worth reminding ourselves. I'm sure Trump appreciates your support. Although most atheists have a rather pedestrian world outlook, your problem appears more severe. Seriously expecting "science" to convict itself of anything is ridiculous. "The man is obviously guilty." "He can't be. I asked him and he said he isn't. What are you? Deaf?" Despite the way many people manipulate the data and even in some cases politicize the data, the truth can show through the rhetoric intended to cloud it. You're insane.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 13, 2020 22:56:22 GMT
You've obviously memorized a narrative that isn't supported by data. Yes, the United States is especially different from other countries in that it has both crowded cities and a "Midwest" where in much of it you can be in one of three cars on the road. People do cross from one to the other of those areas. Yes, there might well be carriers without symptoms unwittingly contributing to the problem. But no, your narrative is not convincing scientific evidence of a religious problem. Remember border security? Or do you have the attention span of a goldfish? I repeat. The religious denied the data, went to church and spread the disease further. Trump denied the data and didn't accept the science making up his own narrative and the USA is now the worst hit country as a result, your non-sequiturs notwithstanding. You are one of those people who shouldn't. Someone here cited three pastors who violated restrictions. Three is not enough to make your case. Three of all sorts of disciplines with people who have too much faith in themselves, and that includes "scientists." Count if you can how many times I quoted Proverbs 9:10. Count how many memes have been circulated based on Isaiah 26:20. Oh, didn't your TV do that for you? Shocking. You just are not well informed then are you? There goes canceled your science card.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 13, 2020 22:59:53 GMT
I'm sure Trump appreciates your support. Although most atheists have a rather pedestrian world outlook, your problem appears more severe. Seriously expecting "science" to convict itself of anything is ridiculous. "The man is obviously guilty." "He can't be. I asked him and he said he isn't. What are you? Deaf?" Despite the way many people manipulate the data and even in some cases politicize the data, the truth can show through the rhetoric intended to cloud it. You're insane. At least it's comforting to know you're wrong about everything else too.
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Post by goz on Jul 13, 2020 23:02:47 GMT
I repeat. The religious denied the data, went to church and spread the disease further. Trump denied the data and didn't accept the science making up his own narrative and the USA is now the worst hit country as a result, your non-sequiturs notwithstanding. You are one of those people who shouldn't. Someone here cited three pastors who violated restrictions. Three is not enough to make your case. Three of all sorts of disciplines with people who have too much faith in themselves, and that includes "scientists." Count if you can how many times I quoted Proverbs 9:10. Count how many memes have been circulated based on Isaiah 26:20. Oh, didn't your TV do that for you? Shocking. You just are not well informed then are you? There goes canceled your science card. It was a Trump recommendation. He went against the science as did many stupid Americans who are anti-intellectual and anti-science like you.
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Post by goz on Jul 13, 2020 23:04:12 GMT
At least it's comforting to know you're wrong about everything else too. EVEN more fortuitously, Messrs. Dunning and Kruger support me in my assessment of your lack of ability!
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Post by Arlon10 on Jul 13, 2020 23:06:05 GMT
You are one of those people who shouldn't. Someone here cited three pastors who violated restrictions. Three is not enough to make your case. Three of all sorts of disciplines with people who have too much faith in themselves, and that includes "scientists." Count if you can how many times I quoted Proverbs 9:10. Count how many memes have been circulated based on Isaiah 26:20. Oh, didn't your TV do that for you? Shocking. You just are not well informed then are you? There goes canceled your science card. It was a Trump recommendation. He went against the science as did many stupid Americans who are anti-intellectual and anti-science like you. If you are going to characterize religion by Donald Trump then religion will indeed be a h u g e problem. Hint: Trump is not religious. And you still didn't count the data properly.
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