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Post by sdrew13163 on May 2, 2017 4:24:09 GMT
I recently rewatched Avengers: Age of Ultron and I was shocked by how little I remembered from the movie. All I truly could remember was walking out of the theater absolutely disappointed. I was one of the harshest critics of this movie upon its release.
This past weekend, however, I saw it in a new light. I saw the movie for how fun it was and how well-done the action was. Is it as good as the action in Winter Soldier or Civil War? No, but it was so entertaining to watch. I also caught on to the little character moments (mainly from the hallucinations brought on by Scarlet Witch) and it was good stuff.
The MCU and I have had our problems, but I'm really glad I rewatched this movie and can realize I was wrong about it after its initial release. Also, the intro to Ultron and the ensuing fight in Avenger's Tower as well as the Hulk vs Hulkbuster scenes were incredible the second time around.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 4:39:17 GMT
I recently rewatched Avengers: Age of Ultron and I was shocked by how little I remembered from the movie. All I truly could remember was walking out of the theater absolutely disappointed. I was one of the harshest critics of this movie upon its release. This past weekend, however, I saw it in a new light. I saw the movie for how fun it was and how well-done the action was. Is it as good as the action in Winter Soldier or Civil War? No, but it was so entertaining to watch. I also caught on to the little character moments (mainly from the hallucinations brought on by Scarlet Witch) and it was good stuff. The MCU and I have had our problems, but I'm really glad I rewatched this movie and can realize I was wrong about it after its initial release. Also, the intro to Ultron and the ensuing fight in Avenger's Tower as well as the Hulk vs Hulkbuster scenes were incredible the second time around. I had the same feeling of dissapointment when I left the theatre the first time I saw AoU. After re-watching it several times I noticed it gets better every time. There is a lot in that movie and because of the high pace you just dont catch all the first time around I guess. Wedon did a much better job then people give him credit for. |
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Post by Atom(ica) Discord on May 2, 2017 5:45:03 GMT
I recently rewatched Avengers: Age of Ultron and I was shocked by how little I remembered from the movie. All I truly could remember was walking out of the theater absolutely disappointed. I was one of the harshest critics of this movie upon its release. This past weekend, however, I saw it in a new light. I saw the movie for how fun it was and how well-done the action was. Is it as good as the action in Winter Soldier or Civil War? No, but it was so entertaining to watch. I also caught on to the little character moments (mainly from the hallucinations brought on by Scarlet Witch) and it was good stuff. The MCU and I have had our problems, but I'm really glad I rewatched this movie and can realize I was wrong about it after its initial release. Also, the intro to Ultron and the ensuing fight in Avenger's Tower as well as the Hulk vs Hulkbuster scenes were incredible the second time around.
The writing is superb but, all people remember is Ultron's quip about regurgitation in his oral cavity. The exchanges between Ultron and Vision are some of the best in the genre as are Widow's reveries and Ultron's scathing critique of humanity. Ultron's "army of me" is a seriously mind boggling concept that flirts with getting at the true nature of an untethered, hyper-connected digital consciousness.
The only serious missteps the film makes are the infamous hot tub scene, Ultron's immaturity (which while perfectly understandable for a being in his situation, detracted from his ability to be consistently sinister), and Quicksilver's (ultimately pointless) death (which was obviously driven by studio politics). |
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Post by Jerk on May 2, 2017 6:44:40 GMT
Yeah I enjoyed it more second time around. But I can't stand most of Black Widows jokes in the movie. Especially when she is riding the motor bike in the chase sequence in south Korea.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 2, 2017 12:03:31 GMT
Yeah I enjoyed it more second time around. But I can't stand most of Black Widows jokes in the movie. Especially when she is riding the motor bike in the chase sequence in south Korea. Everybody told too many jokes. Ultron, Widow, even Cap. I think he says something to Thor about being stuck in traffic or whatever during the final battle with Ultron as the city is being lifted. It was as if the line was written for Tony but they gave it to Steve instead, just didn't suit the character or the situation at all. I agree it's a movie that gets better with each viewing, but I liked it to begin with. There were elements that could've been handled better (the jokes, the forced Thor vision quest, etc.), but it's still in my MCU top five. Just a great flick overall. |
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Post by politicidal on May 2, 2017 12:10:15 GMT
Although the plot is more convoluted and the freshness of the original is no longer there, I like it better than the first one in some respects.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 12:15:39 GMT
Agreed, it's not garbage like lots of people on the internet *cough* YouTube comments*cough* say. It's good just not as great as the first one but it's still a 7.5/10.
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Post by Jerk on May 2, 2017 12:23:41 GMT
Yeah I enjoyed it more second time around. But I can't stand most of Black Widows jokes in the movie. Especially when she is riding the motor bike in the chase sequence in south Korea. Everybody told too many jokes. Ultron, Widow, even Cap. I think he says something to Thor about being stuck in traffic or whatever during the final battle with Ultron as the city is being lifted. It was as if the line was written for Tony but they gave it to Steve instead, just didn't suit the character or the situation at all. I agree it's a movie that gets better with each viewing, but I liked it to begin with. There were elements that could've been handled better (the jokes, the forced Thor vision quest, etc.), but it's still in my MCU top five. Just a great flick overall. Too many jokes. Bad delivery with many of them too and as you said, they feel like they where written for a different character. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on May 2, 2017 12:53:26 GMT
I recently rewatched Avengers: Age of Ultron and I was shocked by how little I remembered from the movie. All I truly could remember was walking out of the theater absolutely disappointed. I was one of the harshest critics of this movie upon its release. This past weekend, however, I saw it in a new light. I saw the movie for how fun it was and how well-done the action was. Is it as good as the action in Winter Soldier or Civil War? No, but it was so entertaining to watch. I also caught on to the little character moments (mainly from the hallucinations brought on by Scarlet Witch) and it was good stuff. The MCU and I have had our problems, but I'm really glad I rewatched this movie and can realize I was wrong about it after its initial release. Also, the intro to Ultron and the ensuing fight in Avenger's Tower as well as the Hulk vs Hulkbuster scenes were incredible the second time around. Well I'm glad to hear that you've come to enjoy it. It's one of those things, I never understood why anybody was disappointed by it, but I'm glad you caught on to some of those moments you mentioned.
One of the things I think is interesting to rewatch in the original Avengers now is the Banner Widow relationship. Some people seemed to think that came out of nowhere, but they had a lot more interaction in Avengers than you really think about, and it's about her overcoming a genuine fear, of which she has very few.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 13:10:49 GMT
Everybody told too many jokes. Ultron, Widow, even Cap. I think he says something to Thor about being stuck in traffic or whatever during the final battle with Ultron as the city is being lifted. It was as if the line was written for Tony but they gave it to Steve instead, just didn't suit the character or the situation at all. I agree it's a movie that gets better with each viewing, but I liked it to begin with. There were elements that could've been handled better (the jokes, the forced Thor vision quest, etc.), but it's still in my MCU top five. Just a great flick overall. Too many jokes. Bad delivery with many of them too and as you said, they feel like they where written for a different character. Well I liked it but I agree that they tried to make everyone like Tony Stark in AOU. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 2, 2017 19:58:00 GMT
I actually enjoy it more, but I do wish that not everyone was trying to be Stark. I don't mind them being funny, but not Tony Stark funny. Whedon was writing with only one voice.
Other than that, there are some good things about it. Honestly, I love all the moments with the Avengers when they aren't fighting. When they're just being friends. The party scene, trying to lift Mjolnir, the farm scenes.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 20:13:00 GMT
I never understood the hate for AoU, either. It's not better than the original Avengers, but it's not as fun. I also think the film will be re-evaluated similarly to how The Empire Strikes Back has been.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 6:41:19 GMT
Why did AoU get all that hate in the first place? It was a fun summer blockbuster.
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Post by charzhino on May 3, 2017 12:15:26 GMT
Why did AoU get all that hate in the first place? It was a fun summer blockbuster. Similar to GOTG2 now, tried to recreate the energy of its predecessor but couldn't quite live up to the high expectations. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 3, 2017 13:30:25 GMT
Why did AoU get all that hate in the first place? It was a fun summer blockbuster. I can only list my initial disappointment: Ultron's characterization. The original trailer made him out to be such a chilling threat. His lines about strings and puppets were creepy. It was a very somber tense mood throughout the trailer. Unfortunately, when the movie came out, Ultron was less that and more goofy Tony Stark. I was disappointed with that as every character seemed to be quipping like Tony already. I really didn't want it from the villain too. As Joss mentioned, Ultron was more like an unsure teenager. Unfortunately, he took that a little too literally: "Leave me alone!" It clashed with his more poignant moments: "My vision. They're really taken everything from me." |
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 4, 2017 0:54:49 GMT
My fav, though I understand why we're in minority.
It plays well as a standalone, where most ppl were probably looking for a greater bridge forward to Infinity Wars. It's fun, emotional, non stop, & for me covers the most character groundwork of any MCU title to date.
Civil War & The Avengers are close behind for me.
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Post by lukelovesfilm34 on May 5, 2017 10:09:39 GMT
Um, NO. It was a shallow, lame mess of a film. It's everything critics hated about X-Men: Apocalypse but far more shallow. It's a Michael Bay film without the Michael Bay look. But as I've said before, if Marvel filmed piles of sh!t for two hours and called those piles of sh!t new superheroes for the MCU, you people would adore it.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 5, 2017 13:03:41 GMT
Why did AoU get all that hate in the first place? It was a fun summer blockbuster. I can only list my initial disappointment: Ultron's characterization. The original trailer made him out to be such a chilling threat. His lines about strings and puppets were creepy. It was a very somber tense mood throughout the trailer. Unfortunately, when the movie came out, Ultron was less that and more goofy Tony Stark. I was disappointed with that as every character seemed to be quipping like Tony already. I really didn't want it from the villain too. As Joss mentioned, Ultron was more like an unsure teenager. Unfortunately, he took that a little too literally: "Leave me alone!" It clashed with his more poignant moments: "My vision. They're really taken everything from me." Agreed, Ultron has to be the most disappointing villain in the MCU to date. (I also thought GOTG could have done more with Ronan, but it wouldn't have fit the tone of that film.) He was killing it as a sinister threat in the trailers. That one shot of him turning back and looking toward the camera was better than any line of dialog. He just had a look of contempt that told you everything you needed to know. How can a robot show contempt?! Then the movie hits and he's apologizing for ripping off limbs, forgetting what children are called, etc. It just didn't work. He has his moments to be sure, but the character is too uneven to be taken seriously, which really takes away from the overall experience. He even makes jokes as he's getting his ass kicked at the end. Ultimately I think they wanted to breathe some life into him with a personality that separated him from Agent Smith from The Matrix or countless other 'killer AI' types throughout cinema history. They just took it too far in the comic relief direction when there was already an overabundance of it with the central characters. |
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Post by formersamhmd on May 5, 2017 13:09:17 GMT
I can only list my initial disappointment: Ultron's characterization. The original trailer made him out to be such a chilling threat. His lines about strings and puppets were creepy. It was a very somber tense mood throughout the trailer. Unfortunately, when the movie came out, Ultron was less that and more goofy Tony Stark. I was disappointed with that as every character seemed to be quipping like Tony already. I really didn't want it from the villain too. As Joss mentioned, Ultron was more like an unsure teenager. Unfortunately, he took that a little too literally: "Leave me alone!" It clashed with his more poignant moments: "My vision. They're really taken everything from me." Agreed, Ultron has to be the most disappointing villain in the MCU to date. (I also thought GOTG could have done more with Ronan, but it wouldn't have fit the tone of that film.) He was killing it as a sinister threat in the trailers. That one shot of him turning back and looking toward the camera was better than any line of dialog. He just had a look of contempt that told you everything you needed to know. How can a robot show contempt?! Then the movie hits and he's apologizing for ripping off limbs, forgetting what children are called, etc. It just didn't work. He has his moments to be sure, but the character is too uneven to be taken seriously, which really takes away from the overall experience. He even makes jokes as he's getting his ass kicked at the end. Ultimately I think they wanted to breathe some life into him with a personality that separated him from Agent Smith from The Matrix or countless other 'killer AI' types throughout cinema history. They just took it too far in the comic relief direction when there was already an overabundance of it with the central characters. So in other words, you wanted the story to be all about the villain with the heroes as nothing more than reactors to him and you were PO'ed they didn't forget that the story is about the Avengers first and foremost? |
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 5, 2017 13:13:56 GMT
I'd call that a radical interpretation of the text.
Where does he say "More Ultron, less Avengers?" All he said was that he wished Ultron wasn't trying to get chuckles out of the audience with every other line of dialogue. That he has an uneven characterization. Not that there's not enough of him.
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