|
|
Post by Marv on Jul 13, 2020 0:41:51 GMT
Season 1....I forgot how little of most of the mob supports are developed in the first season. We get hardly any of Paulie, Silvio, even Big Pussy until almost the end of the season when the Big Puss suspicions are set ablaze and Junior and Tony are at war. It does do a good job of setting up all the dominos though. Early on each of the kids gets a whole episode of plot development, Tony's relationships with his mother, Junior, Dr. Melfi and Carmella are pretty much the driving force behind most of the story. Christopher is easily the most developed of Tony's cohorts. All in all looking back...I loved pretty much all of this season. The therapy sessions don't seem as boring in this season as i remember them to be. Tony and his mothers relationship is a lot of toxic fun to watch. I always prefer the mob stuff to the personal family stuff.
There are some creative ideas that are odd, but that's a running theme throughout the show. There's more screen time for the captains in this season like Jimmy and Larry Boy, who don't really matter after this season, but it makes sense cuz of the way it goes down I just wish we got more development for characters that mattered more later on.
Overall, still a solid first step in the series that sets a lot of pieces in place for future payoffs.
Edit: Also i wanted to mention, Im kinda watching the Talking Sopranos podcast as i watched these episodes...the podcast is by Schirripa and Imperioli (Bobby Bacala and Christopher) as they talk about each episode and give insight and factoids and some special guests.
Also edit....forgot where I knew Jackie Aprille from.....he was Grama in Rounders.
|
|
|
|
Post by TheGoodMan19 on Jul 13, 2020 19:22:41 GMT
Season 1....I forgot how little of most of the mob supports are developed in the first season. We get hardly any of Paulie, Silvio, even Big Pussy until almost the end of the season when the Big Puss suspicions are set ablaze and Junior and Tony are at war. It does do a good job of setting up all the dominos though. Early on each of the kids gets a whole episode of plot development, Tony's relationships with his mother, Junior, Dr. Melfi and Carmella are pretty much the driving force behind most of the story. Christopher is easily the most developed of Tony's cohorts. All in all looking back...I loved pretty much all of this season. The therapy sessions don't seem as boring in this season as i remember them to be. Tony and his mothers relationship is a lot of toxic fun to watch. I always prefer the mob stuff to the personal family stuff. There are some creative ideas that are odd, but that's a running theme throughout the show. There's more screen time for the captains in this season like Jimmy and Larry Boy, who don't really matter after this season, but it makes sense cuz of the way it goes down I just wish we got more development for characters that mattered more later on. Overall, still a solid first step in the series that sets a lot of pieces in place for future payoffs. Edit: Also i wanted to mention, Im kinda watching the Talking Sopranos podcast as i watched these episodes...the podcast is by Schirripa and Imperioli (Bobby Bacala and Christopher) as they talk about each episode and give insight and factoids and some special guests. Also edit....forgot where I knew Jackie Aprille from.....he was Grama in Rounders. I thought The Sopranos was the rare series that got better every season. Breaking Bad was close but I thought a little was missing after Fring left.
Funny to see Tony in the Pilot. Gandolfini changed him up a little when HBO definitely picked the show up
|
|
|
|
Post by Marv on Jul 13, 2020 23:26:29 GMT
Season 1....I forgot how little of most of the mob supports are developed in the first season. We get hardly any of Paulie, Silvio, even Big Pussy until almost the end of the season when the Big Puss suspicions are set ablaze and Junior and Tony are at war. It does do a good job of setting up all the dominos though. Early on each of the kids gets a whole episode of plot development, Tony's relationships with his mother, Junior, Dr. Melfi and Carmella are pretty much the driving force behind most of the story. Christopher is easily the most developed of Tony's cohorts. All in all looking back...I loved pretty much all of this season. The therapy sessions don't seem as boring in this season as i remember them to be. Tony and his mothers relationship is a lot of toxic fun to watch. I always prefer the mob stuff to the personal family stuff. There are some creative ideas that are odd, but that's a running theme throughout the show. There's more screen time for the captains in this season like Jimmy and Larry Boy, who don't really matter after this season, but it makes sense cuz of the way it goes down I just wish we got more development for characters that mattered more later on. Overall, still a solid first step in the series that sets a lot of pieces in place for future payoffs. Edit: Also i wanted to mention, Im kinda watching the Talking Sopranos podcast as i watched these episodes...the podcast is by Schirripa and Imperioli (Bobby Bacala and Christopher) as they talk about each episode and give insight and factoids and some special guests. Also edit....forgot where I knew Jackie Aprille from.....he was Grama in Rounders. I thought The Sopranos was the rare series that got better every season. Breaking Bad was close but I thought a little was missing after Fring left.
Funny to see Tony in the Pilot. Gandolfini changed him up a little when HBO definitely picked the show up
The pilot definitely has some things that stick out. The voice overs for one...i can't think of another episode that features them the way they are in the pilot. |
|
|
|
Post by WullieFort on Jul 14, 2020 13:14:20 GMT
My abiding memory of The Sopranos is the glimpse of a stunning pair of legs in episode 1, that belonged to the lady who was with the guy whom Tony and Christopher chased around the park and beat up. If I remember rightly the guy owed Tony money. He probably spent it all on her. I would. I never did find out who she is/was
|
|
|
|
Post by Marv on Jul 14, 2020 15:47:05 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 15, 2020 5:45:38 GMT
Well, the title refers to Tony's actual family rather than his mob one, so stands to reason the latter would be focused on less. Of course, the showrunners quickly realized they were more interesting.
I watched a little of season 1 myself not too long ago. I don't know, with all the shows since (which no doubt owe something to Sopranos itself) this show seems almost quaint.
|
|
|
|
Post by Morgana on Jul 15, 2020 11:04:10 GMT
I love it. I've just finished watching five seasons back to back. I'm hesitant about watching season 6 because of the ending, which I've read about. I'm afraid it will ruin everything that came before, like the ending of GoT did.
|
|
|
|
Post by WullieFort on Jul 15, 2020 12:20:35 GMT
The ending is not at all bad. It is just...abrupt.
|
|
|
|
Post by Marv on Jul 15, 2020 20:13:26 GMT
I love it. I've just finished watching five seasons back to back. I'm hesitant about watching season 6 because of the ending, which I've read about. I'm afraid it will ruin everything that came before, like the ending of GoT did. I liked it, but it was very divisive at the time. |
|
|
|
Post by Marv on Jul 15, 2020 20:18:03 GMT
I love it. I've just finished watching five seasons back to back. I'm hesitant about watching season 6 because of the ending, which I've read about. I'm afraid it will ruin everything that came before, like the ending of GoT did. Dont remember but...have you watched the Wire yet? If not might I suggest that be next on your list. It came out around the time of the Sopranos and is one of the classic HBO shows and is pretty amazing. It's got as many colorful characters as the Sopranos but also takes more of a look at the institutions around crime, politics, education, etc. |
|
|
|
Post by Morgana on Jul 16, 2020 10:09:37 GMT
I love it. I've just finished watching five seasons back to back. I'm hesitant about watching season 6 because of the ending, which I've read about. I'm afraid it will ruin everything that came before, like the ending of GoT did. Dont remember but...have you watched the Wire yet? If not might I suggest that be next on your list. It came out around the time of the Sopranos and is one of the classic HBO shows and is pretty amazing. It's got as many colorful characters as the Sopranos but also takes more of a look at the institutions around crime, politics, education, etc. I've been meaning to give The Wire a look. I like shows where I'm invested in the characters, as I was in The Sopranos. Despite the horrible things Tony did, I was still on his side. |
|
|
|
Post by Sarge on Jul 19, 2020 1:13:21 GMT
The Wire and The Sopranos are very different shows. One is the Tony show, very machismo. The other is a fairly large cast where the main characters may change season to season which can be jarring at first. The Wire rewards you for paying attention, it is possibly the most intelligent and well written show I've seen and they went to great length to make it authentic. I love them both. I've watched The Sopranos 3.5 times and The Wire twice.
|
|
|
|
Post by Morgana on Jul 21, 2020 10:43:11 GMT
The Wire and The Sopranos are very different shows. One is the Tony show, very machismo. The other is a fairly large cast where the main characters may change season to season which can be jarring at first. The Wire rewards you for paying attention, it is possibly the most intelligent and well written show I've seen and they went to great length to make it authentic. I love them both. I've watched The Sopranos 3.5 times and The Wire twice. Thanks for explaining the difference. I'm still not sure about watching The Wire, but at least I have a better idea of what it is. |
|
|
|
Post by Marv on Jul 29, 2020 23:01:29 GMT
Season 2...Maybe still my favorite season. I love that it focuses just a little more on the mob side of things. I feel like we see more Sil and Paulie which I always enjoy. Big Puss story is weird at times. I get it, he's between two worlds and doesn't really know what to do...but he seems to flip the switch constantly between trying not to rat out his friends and going full blown secret agent. It feels weirder as the season goes on...but the ending to that plot thread was fantastic. I don't remember much of Christopher except him getting shot...which was fine. But he definitely had more development in season 1...and in later seasons. I always liked Furio too, and he's introduced here. Janice shows up and wasn't as annoying as i remembered...but she still sucks. She's suppose to suck, but man i wish there were a few redeeming qualities in her personality somewhere. Livia was kind of more of the same here...i know the actress was kind of on her way out so she doesn't have as much going on here as in season 1, but it all feels like its been covered by season 1. My favorite character, possibly of the entire series tho, is Richie Aprile. David Proval has such a great and oftentimes subtle performance in this season. I swear its mostly facial expressions but they say everything you need to know about Richie Aprile.
Overall i love the Richie Aprile drama and the Big Puss storyline...and the rest is just a lot of fun.
|
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Jul 29, 2020 23:53:44 GMT
Wasn't there a storyline involving muslims that they were keeping an eye on?
I can't remember that being resolved.
|
|
|
|
Post by Marv on Jul 30, 2020 2:23:05 GMT
Wasn't there a storyline involving muslims that they were keeping an eye on? I can't remember that being resolved. There were several unresolved plotlines. I think David Chase deliberately wanted some ambiguity on a lot of situations. |
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Jul 30, 2020 2:43:50 GMT
There were several unresolved plotlines. I think David Chase deliberately wanted some ambiguity on a lot of situations. I thought the Melfi rape was a cop out. They could have had Tony learn about it by some other source and do something, then she is wrestling with her feelings about it after learning the rapist was caught and dealt with (and not necessarily learning through Tony). Instead of the "I really wanted to tell him" story line. They jettisoned the more interesting story angle for the lesser one -- they could have had it both ways. Run the story with her wanting to tell him-and then later he finds out about it through an acquaintance mentioning someone boasting about raping a psychiatrist. It would surely have drawn his curiosity.
|
|
|
|
Post by ck100 on Jul 30, 2020 10:41:34 GMT
I liked the first three seasons, the rest are good, but not as good as the first three seasons. Season 6 feels like it should really be two separate seasons instead of 6A and 6B.
|
|
|
|
Post by Morgana on Jul 30, 2020 10:48:28 GMT
Wasn't there a storyline involving muslims that they were keeping an eye on? I can't remember that being resolved. I remember it being mentioned that the biggest threat was from Islamic terrorism, and someone or other saying we should keep an eye out, but that's it. |
|
|
|
Post by moviebuffbrad on Jul 31, 2020 4:00:06 GMT
There were several unresolved plotlines. I think David Chase deliberately wanted some ambiguity on a lot of situations. I thought the Melfi rape was a cop out. They could have had Tony learn about it by some other source and do something, then she is wrestling with her feelings about it after learning the rapist was caught and dealt with (and not necessarily learning through Tony). Instead of the "I really wanted to tell him" story line. They jettisoned the more interesting story angle for the lesser one -- they could have had it both ways. Run the story with her wanting to tell him-and then later he finds out about it through an acquaintance mentioning someone boasting about raping a psychiatrist. It would surely have drawn his curiosity.
Eh, I don't think it was a copout. The point of the episode wasn't what Tony would do if he found out, the point was Melfi wrestling with the choice of whether to tell him or not. She chose not to, and that as they say is "end of story". Him finding out anyway would make the whole thing redundant. |
|
