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Post by politicidal on Jul 14, 2020 13:25:43 GMT
It helped revive the superhero film genre after the one-two-three punch of Batman & Robin, Spawn, and Steel back in 1997. The franchise saw a lot of highs and a lot of lows throughout its run. Overall, I have more fond memories than bad and enjoyed most of them.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 14, 2020 13:42:24 GMT
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Post by James on Jul 14, 2020 15:59:13 GMT
Solid flick. I think it holds up decently.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 14, 2020 16:03:46 GMT
Yes, I see this is getting a big cover in the media. seems not even the shills can deny this film.
Anyway look how things have changed. marvel went from grounded gritted driven serious drama to 20 year later were their films are not seen cinema. what a watse and shame
Do you think this will forever be the best xmen intro film of all time? I dont see any childish comedy disney xmen film topping it?
its hard to top an into film that began in nazi camp and ends with a malcom x and martin luther king vibe. the standard is just to high. sorry mcu.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 14, 2020 16:05:03 GMT
Solid flick. I think it holds up decently. Yes it does. I think this film is proof why comic book should tell more grounded stories like Joker or have CGI effect that looks more real. to what we have now were you can mistake them for video games and theme parks. sorry scorsese. |
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Post by politicidal on Jul 14, 2020 16:10:56 GMT
Wonderful, our resident auteur and accomplished lawyer joined the chat.
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Post by bud47 on Jul 14, 2020 16:27:03 GMT
It was decent for it's time and it deserves credit for helping to get the ball rolling, but it has aged badly. It's small budget didn't help things, but Bryan Singer clearly wasn't up to the task of bringing to life the more comic booky aspects of these characters. His imagination and scope was somewhat limited, focusing more on the persecution angle while leaving out many of the things that made the comic books so appealing.
It's a solid film, but it suffers from feeling mediocre in every aspect. I remember enjoying it when it came out, but at the same time thinking how it felt like such a missed opportunity and hoping that the next film would get it right in the same way that the 90s animated series was able to do so easily. A feeling that sadly continued throughout the franchise in every following film. It's a shame that X2 still remains the height of these films with a couple of bright spots along the way.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 14, 2020 19:37:13 GMT
It was decent for it's time and it deserves credit for helping to get the ball rolling, but it has aged badly. It's small budget didn't help things, but Bryan Singer clearly wasn't up to the task of bringing to life the more comic booky aspects of these characters. His imagination and scope was somewhat limited, focusing more on the persecution angle while leaving out many of the things that made the comic books so appealing. It's a solid film, but it suffers from feeling mediocre in every aspect. I remember enjoying it when it came out, but at the same time thinking how it felt like such a missed opportunity and hoping that the next film would get it right in the same way that the 90s animated series was able to do so easily. A feeling that sadly continued throughout the franchise in every following film. It's a shame that X2 still remains the height of these films with a couple of bright spots along the way. Do you think it was decent to the poorly done comic film we have now like Endgame and far from home?
Also how had it age badly, the story of the film is more meaningful now to society.
I think its odd you are calling a movie 20 years after that is still superior to all the comic films we have now mediocre. that sounds desperate to help what MCU is going to do.
Comic films feel less appealing now. they certainly are not getting that many prestigious directors and the few they get want to keep away from things like MCU
it still a big shame, all the articles i have read importantly talk about how this movie gave comic films credibility now comic films don't have any.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 14, 2020 19:40:05 GMT
Wonderful, our resident auteur and accomplished lawyer joined the chat. What? am not a lawyer.
But seriously as a person who is a bigger dc fan. how did marvel go from a movie like xmen 1 to things like endgame and far from home that has brought shame to marvel's reputation?
I read the collider article of this movie infact, the articles even says without xmen 1 movies like batman begins and Joker may not have happened.
Also this movie is proof marvel is not just some childish comedy.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jul 14, 2020 20:10:20 GMT
It's a very predictable screenplay, but the movie was intense and had superb direction, great acting from everyone involved, wonderful set-pieces, astonishing action sequences, impressive FX for its time and... HUGH JACKMAN.
It's not a masterpiece, but it was ONE STEP or even TWO STEPS ahead of Tim Burton and the superhero movies of the nineties, and it just ignited the modern superhero genre for the following generations.
HUGH JACKMAN was magnificent. He totally recreated Wolverine from scratch and made the character a big GLOBAL MOVIE ICON, beyond comic books. He will always be the Real Wolverine.
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Post by bud47 on Jul 14, 2020 21:09:47 GMT
It's a very predictable screenplay, but the movie was intense and had superb direction, great acting from everyone involved, wonderful set-pieces, astonishing action sequences, impressive FX for its time and... HUGH JACKMAN. It's not a masterpiece, but it was ONE STEP or even TWO STEPS ahead of Tim Burton and the superhero movies of the nineties, and it just ignited the modern superhero genre for the following generations. HUGH JACKMAN was magnificent. He totally recreated Wolverine from scratch and made the character a big GLOBAL MOVIE ICON, beyond comic books. He will always be the Real Wolverine. It's mainly known for launching Hugh Jackman's career more than anything else and being a stepping stone to Spider-Man, which is the CBM that really ignited the genre. It wasn't even that big of a hit during the summer of 2000. MI2 was the blockbuster of that season and people were talking more about Gladiator than anything else. X-Men was a surprise success for a small budget action film with a grounded and relatable premise with a really lame and lazy, ripped from the Sci-Fi channel plot (a machine that turns people into mutants, oh my!). It had a small budget which was reflected in the film. The costumes, effects and action sequences/set pieces were adequate. It was nothing impressive or groundbreaking for it's time and more importantly lacked the scope and imagination of the source material. X2 was a bigger success and did more for the genre. Although let's be real, neither were a phenomenon like the first Burton Batman film. |
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Post by bud47 on Jul 14, 2020 21:16:44 GMT
It was decent for it's time and it deserves credit for helping to get the ball rolling, but it has aged badly. It's small budget didn't help things, but Bryan Singer clearly wasn't up to the task of bringing to life the more comic booky aspects of these characters. His imagination and scope was somewhat limited, focusing more on the persecution angle while leaving out many of the things that made the comic books so appealing. It's a solid film, but it suffers from feeling mediocre in every aspect. I remember enjoying it when it came out, but at the same time thinking how it felt like such a missed opportunity and hoping that the next film would get it right in the same way that the 90s animated series was able to do so easily. A feeling that sadly continued throughout the franchise in every following film. It's a shame that X2 still remains the height of these films with a couple of bright spots along the way. Do you think it was decent to the poorly done comic film we have now like Endgame and far from home?
Also how had it age badly, the story of the film is more meaningful now to society.
I think its odd you are calling a movie 20 years after that is still superior to all the comic films we have now mediocre. that sounds desperate to help what MCU is going to do.
Comic films feel less appealing now. they certainly are not getting that many prestigious directors and the few they get want to keep away from things like MCU
it still a big shame, all the articles i have read importantly talk about how this movie gave comic films credibility now comic films don't have any.
I have always held the X-Men films to the standards set by the comic books and more importantly, the 90s animated series, which did a fantastic job of adapting the source material. I feel the same way I do now about the X-Men films as I did when they first came out and started disappointing me, which was long before the MCU ever existed and took up rent-free space in your demented little mind. |
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Post by dazz on Jul 14, 2020 21:29:48 GMT
I love this movie I remember going to see it in the cinema twice when it came out, back to back days, went the Saturday with friends to see it and I loved it so I wanted to see it again the next day and my mates didn't so I went to see it alone, fucking great movie for it's time, I think it mostly holds up well, not without it's flaws obviously, Storm is underutilised, Cyclops fell short...no pun intended as what I expected out of the teams leader, but Jackman, McKellen and Stewart were excellent, they made you believe in their characters, Jackman especially made you buy him as Wolverine despite him not being exactly what you expect with the character. This along with Blade and then Spider-Man was the triple threat in that 4 year period which saved the CBM industry, Blade proved they could be successful, X-Men proved they could be hits and Spider-Man proved they could be mega hits and X-Men deserves a lot of respect for that. thenolan Why do you need to turn a X-Men appreciation thread into an MCU bashing session? can your pathetic little dipshit arse not just enjoy praising a movie without trying to shit on something else? are you that sad and pathetic you feel the need to push your worthless bitchy little agenda at all times? get a life you little cock weasel. |
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Post by politicidal on Jul 14, 2020 21:44:17 GMT
Wonderful, our resident auteur and accomplished lawyer joined the chat. What? am not a lawyer.
But seriously as a person who is a bigger dc fan. how did marvel go from a movie like xmen 1 to things like endgame and far from home that has brought shame to marvel's reputation?
I read the collider article of this movie infact, the articles even says without xmen 1 movies like batman begins and Joker may not have happened.
Also this movie is proof marvel is not just some childish comedy.
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Post by hobowar on Jul 14, 2020 21:55:41 GMT
My favourite movie of all time when I first saw it. Today I'd say a comic book movie has no excuse to be this boring.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 15, 2020 5:16:59 GMT
the bigger question lies more with 20 years, why has marvel as a whole not kept this standard of this type of comic films.
Would Scorsese and Godfather director say marvel is crap if 98% of marvel films still felt more like xmen 1.
its like this critics all of a sudden dont have memeory loss anymore when talking of comic films standard in the anniversary reviews, they have all praised the film for the tone, theme and maturity. give it 5 months. you would see these same critics telling us we should just enjoyed fun dumb black widow and another mcu formula movie
the standard has so much dropped with marvel compared to xmen 1 and what it did for comic book story telling.
Let this sink in that the first marvel scene of the decade.
to quote the anniversary review of the ew said, this was just a game changer to how to make a comic films.
So kudos to this movie. it still makes most remember what marvel used to be known for.
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Post by thenolan on Jul 15, 2020 5:21:33 GMT
I love this movie I remember going to see it in the cinema twice when it came out, back to back days, went the Saturday with friends to see it and I loved it so I wanted to see it again the next day and my mates didn't so I went to see it alone, fucking great movie for it's time, I think it mostly holds up well, not without it's flaws obviously, Storm is underutilised, Cyclops fell short...no pun intended as what I expected out of the teams leader, but Jackman, McKellen and Stewart were excellent, they made you believe in their characters, Jackman especially made you buy him as Wolverine despite him not being exactly what you expect with the character. This along with Blade and then Spider-Man was the triple threat in that 4 year period which saved the CBM industry, Blade proved they could be successful, X-Men proved they could be hits and Spider-Man proved they could be mega hits and X-Men deserves a lot of respect for that. thenolan Why do you need to turn a X-Men appreciation thread into an MCU bashing session? can your pathetic little dipshit arse not just enjoy praising a movie without trying to shit on something else? are you that sad and pathetic you feel the need to push your worthless bitchy little agenda at all times? get a life you little cock weasel. its not a mcu bashing session, its about marvel in general and what they became. got to admit the standard fell hard for mcu and fox but at least xmen movies still had a lot of saving grace with this movie, Logan , first class DOFP and the sequel X2. ew.com/movies/x-men-20th-anniversary/
The brilliant, unsettling legacy of X-Men, 20 years later
gotta to admit, its impressive that the media all of a sudden remembered marvel once had high standards to the comedy disney films they have now. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Jul 15, 2020 6:56:30 GMT
The best things about it are Jackman and Paquin, good sympathetic performances from both--but it's a poor comic book "action" film.
Ebert said in his review it seemed strange the mutants would be upset about registration when they could easily avoid being registered with the powers they have.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jul 15, 2020 11:41:55 GMT
Ebert said in his review it seemed strange the mutants would be upset about registration when they could easily avoid being registered with the powers they have. Ask that to Azazel, Nightcrawler, Beast, Caliban, Artie or even Cyclops... |
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Post by Prime etc. on Jul 15, 2020 12:13:03 GMT
Ask that to Azazel, Nightcrawler, Beast, Caliban, Artie or even Cyclops... There's no need for registration in their cases--they can't hide it. The point of registration is to keep track of those who look outwardly normal.
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