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Post by Admin on Jul 30, 2020 23:58:11 GMT
When is the time to quit smoking? When the doctor steals all your cigarettes... There's something grammatically awkward about that headline.
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Post by Admin on Jul 31, 2020 4:06:28 GMT
Sure, long term smoking causes all sorts of health problems. So of course it's best to quit smoking LONG TERM. lolwut
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Post by Admin on Jul 31, 2020 6:00:34 GMT
Uh, smoking is bad for you. We know that. But if nicotine possibly kills the virus on contact, I wouldn't be one of the sheeple hysterically quitting right now.
If the France study is correct, smoking may reduce your chances of catching this virus 7 times that of nonsmokers. For now at least, I'm gonna keep on puffin' away! Lol at idiots rushing to quit right now. " style="max-width:100%;"] Maybe it was just the way you said it's best to "quit smoking long term" since "long term smoking" is bad for you. Something about that just doesn't work right. I'm glad the world gave you a possibly valid reason to put quitting on the back burner, but you might want to wait on the jury before preaching about the health benefits of smoking during a pandemic that attacks the lungs specifically. If it's the nicotine that fights it, smoking wouldn't be necessary and you have to find another excuse. And you will. Because you don't have the proper mindset to quit.
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Post by Admin on Jul 31, 2020 7:17:08 GMT
Maybe it was just the way you said it's best to "quit smoking long term" since "long term smoking" is bad for you. Something about that just doesn't work right. I'm glad the world gave you a possibly valid reason to put quitting on the back burner, but you might want to wait on the jury before preaching about the health benefits of smoking during a pandemic that attacks the lungs specifically. If it's the nicotine that fights it, smoking wouldn't be necessary and you have to find another excuse. And you will. Because you don't have the proper mindset to quit. No, I meant that if smoking will ward off corona, then wait six months to quit until there's a vaccine for the virus and it's under control. That seems quite rational if nicotine does indeed inhibit the virus. To quit now thinking it will help your immune system against the virus may be foolish. I know corona virus or no corona virus, smoking causes cancer and heart disease. I'm no fool. But if I haven't quit by now, 6 more months to ward off corona may be worth it. I know what you meant and I agree. But it's a dick move to ridicule those who have quit...for any reason. If it turns out that smoking is the cure, do you think the CDC would recommend it?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 31, 2020 15:42:12 GMT
If its true that so many smokers are quitting then at least some good will have come from this damn pandemic.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jul 31, 2020 16:05:40 GMT
If its true that so many smokers are quitting then at least some good will have come from this damn pandemic. Dumb. Its dumb that there are people quitting smoking?
Are you just... stupid?
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Post by Admin on Jul 31, 2020 21:07:37 GMT
I know what you meant and I agree. But it's a dick move to ridicule those who have quit...for any reason. If it turns out that smoking is the cure, do you think the CDC would recommend it? No, the CDC will never recommend smoking. And they will go in the opposite direction and try to squash any public information which says nicotine may block the corona virus. They have a vested interest in saying smoking is bad, bad, BAD!!! What vested interest might that be? Don't fool yourself into thinking headlines such as the title of this thread are good news for the CDC.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Aug 1, 2020 5:53:41 GMT
But then they probably switched to glue. LOL. Since cigarettes gave been banned in South Africa I use crack cocaine and crystal meth even more than I used too.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Aug 1, 2020 5:55:07 GMT
Sorry, I'm a militant smoker and I believe the anti-smoking crusade has become a self-righteous pseudo-religious campaign of bitching, whining, and Prohibition. That being said, I know smoking is unhealthy and it's best to quit.
I'm not sure if it's conclusive or not that smoking inhibits the virus. But I do know if it is true there are forces in the healthcare industry which will do everything in their power to suppress any information. I just found the studies in favor of nicotine to be so deliciously ironic. I have no issue with any of what you say here. I have come across those people who do that annoyingly passive aggressive fake cough when they walk by a smoker. I agree it would be hilariously ironic if true. A daily combination of cigarettes, gin and marijuana works for me in keeping the COVID away.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 1, 2020 5:56:46 GMT
No, I meant that if smoking will ward off corona, then wait six months to quit until there's a vaccine for the virus and it's under control. That seems quite rational if nicotine does indeed inhibit the virus. To quit now thinking it will help your immune system against the virus may be foolish. I know corona virus or no corona virus, smoking causes cancer and heart disease. I'm no fool. But if I haven't quit by now, 6 more months to ward off corona may be worth it. I know what you meant and I agree. But it's a dick move to ridicule those who have quit...for any reason. If it turns out that smoking is the cure, do you think the CDC would recommend it? A lot of politicisation of various things is going on these days. Here in India, HCQ has not been politicised as much as in the west. People are taking it in low dose (as per medical advise) as against the US where people took it in high dose and doctors and medical experts from the various regions of India see it as one of the treatments (mostly preventive and in mild case) of Coronavirus. theprint.in/health/researchers-smell-a-rat-say-expensive-remdesivir-getting-subtle-push-over-hcq-in-studies/471983/
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Post by jeffersoncody on Aug 1, 2020 6:09:12 GMT
Yes, I know you aren't really blowing smoke in people's faces, I just thought maybe you thought I was being sarcastic. I don't buy that smoking protects against the virus and even the articles about it say there is no conclusive evidence. Sorry, I'm a militant smoker and I believe the anti-smoking crusade has become a self-righteous pseudo-religious campaign of bitching, whining, and Prohibition. That being said, I know smoking is unhealthy and it's best to quit.
I'm not sure if it's conclusive or not that smoking inhibits the virus. But I do know if it is true there are forces in the healthcare industry which will do everything in their power to suppress any information. I just found the studies in favor of nicotine to be so deliciously ironic. Well said. Your contributions would be most welcome here gameboy. imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/231567/ot-cigarettes-banned-sa-march
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Post by jeffersoncody on Aug 1, 2020 6:13:38 GMT
Anti-smoking has become almost a religious cult belief at this point. Sure, there is no final word on whether or not nicotine kills covid on contact. But the anti-smoking cabal is scrambling to make sure it doesn't. Lol!
Once one catches any respiratory infection of course smoking is going to make it worse. If you get it, obviously, you quit smoking. But is nicotine preventative? It may be. People may be fools to quit now until we learn more. Obvious to whom? You can quit anytime you like Gamey. How pissed would you be if they banned cock smoking Toastie?
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Post by jeffersoncody on Aug 1, 2020 6:14:45 GMT
I love the smell of nicotine in the morning ...
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 1, 2020 6:17:16 GMT
You are being cretinous. You claim you listen to science, but ignore the "proven" science of the the health consequences of smoking, which is also written all over the packaging. I guess it is selective reasoning with you and not to mention ignorance, when it comes to pig-headed obstinance. You're still not listening. It's like talking to a Pentecostal Christian. Not a smoker myself. I am mostly indifferent about it.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Aug 1, 2020 6:48:29 GMT
How pissed would you be if they banned cock smoking Toastie? Don't be crude! Different dynamic and false equivalency jeff. Your addictions are yours to overcome at any rate. Pity they are unhealthy ones. LOL. If it's any consolation Toastie, I have healthy addictions too. For one, I am addicted to eating pussy.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Aug 1, 2020 6:58:12 GMT
LOL. If it's any consolation Toastie, I have healthy addictions too. For one, I am addicted to eating pussy. Now that is revolting....
The prohibition thing I get, because of all the other subterfuge it can create, one has to make the decision for themselves regarding what is ideal and wise for them to put into their bodies. The main issue here though, is the point of the thread that apparently there is a decrease in smoking since the corona virus outbreak. LOL. You are absolutely right Toastie, and I have cut down to 25 a day. But that is only because the ban on cigarettes in SA has made them ridiculously expensive. I am, however, glad you get the prohibition thing. Once it's over, I will deal with my cigarette addiction.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Aug 1, 2020 7:08:48 GMT
LOL. You are absolutely right Toastie, and I have cut down to 25 a day. But that is only because the ban on cigarettes in SA has made them ridiculously expensive. I am, however, glad you get the prohibition thing. Once it's over, I will deal with my cigarette addiction.All the best and hopefully that evil witch doctor in the ANC will come to her senses. But please don't wait until this pandemic fear-mongering is over by buying into gameys bulls<>t. Did you watch the trailer of MOFFIE yet Toastie? The main character is gay, so obviously I never climbed into a foxhole and spooned with a fellow trooper, but the romantic stuff aside, this film echoes my own scary experiences in the SADF with uncanny accuracy.
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Post by Stammerhead on Aug 2, 2020 10:32:15 GMT
I don’t need to be versatile where obvious and plentiful SCIENTIFIC evidence is available regarding health concerns behind cigarette smoking. You keep going but recommending others stave off quitting until a covid-19 cure is found is ludicrous beyond belief. That you are in denial of this also is mind boggling beyond comprehension. Toaster, you are such a zealot on this issue that you can't look at it rationally.
The SCIENTIFIC evidence is that there may be short term protection from the corona virus with nicotine. That's all I'm saying here. Quitting smoking now may put more people at risk. The quitters in the OP are foolish. If they didn't quit 6 months ago there is sure as hell no good reason to quit in the middle of this pandemic.
You see the world in terms of black and white. Shades of religious faith against the SCIENTIFIC evidence here, or what?
Toasty, the earth is not flat. I think foolish is the wrong term and insulting people is not the way to get the message across. It’s still early days on the benefits of nicotine and (as far as I can see) there haven’t been any explanation of how nicotine helps prevent getting Covid-19. If it’s just nicotine in the body then use patches. If the nicotine has to be directly applied to the lungs then use a less harmful method such as vaping. If there’s more chance of dying from lung cancer than there is of dying from Covid-19 then quit.
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Post by Stammerhead on Aug 2, 2020 13:13:11 GMT
I think foolish is the wrong term and insulting people is not the way to get the message across. It’s still early days on the benefits of nicotine and (as far as I can see) there haven’t been any explanation of how nicotine helps prevent getting Covid-19. If it’s just nicotine in the body then use patches. If the nicotine has to be directly applied to the lungs then use a less harmful method such as vaping. If there’s more chance of dying from lung cancer than there is of dying from Covid-19 then quit. Interesting how gamey is projecting his own irrational and bizarre attitude, yet I am the irrational one.... Of course if you want to be really safe...
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Post by Stammerhead on Aug 2, 2020 16:00:08 GMT
I think foolish is the wrong term and insulting people is not the way to get the message across. It’s still early days on the benefits of nicotine and (as far as I can see) there haven’t been any explanation of how nicotine helps prevent getting Covid-19. If it’s just nicotine in the body then use patches. If the nicotine has to be directly applied to the lungs then use a less harmful method such as vaping. If there’s more chance of dying from lung cancer than there is of dying from Covid-19 then quit. White knight!!!
Uh, I didn't insult Toasty. What, by pointing out his pseudo-religious zealotry? I suppose you think the atheists on the Religion board here are insulting religious posters when they post SCIENTIFIC evidence and they are told that faith is all one needs?
No, Stammaman, if you're smoking now and have no symptoms of lung cancer, there is a far greater chance you'll get the corona virus in the next 6 months than die of lung cancer. You keep insulting the anti-smoking majority by comparing them to an anti-scientific religious cult and you (mildly) insult people who have just given up smoking by calling them foolish. If it was proven that smoking saves lives and they are cutting short their own by jumping on to the religious cult bandwagon then, yes, they are foolish. But at the moment it’s like calling people fools because they step on cracks in the pavement/sidewalk.
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