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Post by Aj_June on Aug 1, 2020 6:17:16 GMT
You are being cretinous. You claim you listen to science, but ignore the "proven" science of the the health consequences of smoking, which is also written all over the packaging. I guess it is selective reasoning with you and not to mention ignorance, when it comes to pig-headed obstinance. You're still not listening. It's like talking to a Pentecostal Christian. Not a smoker myself. I am mostly indifferent about it.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 1, 2020 6:42:37 GMT
You are being cretinous. You claim you listen to science, but ignore the "proven" science of the the health consequences of smoking, which is also written all over the packaging. I guess it is selective reasoning with you and not to mention ignorance, when it comes to pig-headed obstinance. You're still not listening. It's like talking to a Pentecostal Christian. You are NOT telling me anything. Stop espousing what you think you know and stop talking s<>t.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 1, 2020 6:44:08 GMT
Obvious to whom? You can quit anytime you like Gamey. How pissed would you be if they banned cock smoking Toastie?  Don't be crude! Different dynamic and false equivalency jeff. Your addictions are yours to overcome at any rate. Pity they are unhealthy ones.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 1, 2020 6:48:05 GMT
You don't know half as much as you boast gamey, otherwise you wouldn't frikin' do it. Get your head out of your proverbial backside.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Aug 1, 2020 6:48:29 GMT
How pissed would you be if they banned cock smoking Toastie?  Don't be crude! Different dynamic and false equivalency jeff. Your addictions are yours to overcome at any rate. Pity they are unhealthy ones. LOL. If it's any consolation Toastie, I have healthy addictions too. For one, I am addicted to eating pussy.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 1, 2020 6:54:06 GMT
Don't be crude! Different dynamic and false equivalency jeff. Your addictions are yours to overcome at any rate. Pity they are unhealthy ones. LOL. If it's any consolation Toastie, I have healthy addictions too. For one, I am addicted to eating pussy. Now that is revolting....
The prohibition thing I get, because of all the other subterfuge it can create, one has to make the decision for themselves regarding what is ideal and wise for them to put into their bodies. The main issue here though, is the point of the thread that apparently there is a decrease in smoking since the corona virus outbreak. Posters like gameboy arguing that they should wait for further scientific proof before they give up, as smoking may assist in warding off the virus, is preposterous beyond belief.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Aug 1, 2020 6:58:12 GMT
LOL. If it's any consolation Toastie, I have healthy addictions too. For one, I am addicted to eating pussy. Now that is revolting....
The prohibition thing I get, because of all the other subterfuge it can create, one has to make the decision for themselves regarding what is ideal and wise for them to put into their bodies. The main issue here though, is the point of the thread that apparently there is a decrease in smoking since the corona virus outbreak. LOL. You are absolutely right Toastie, and I have cut down to 25 a day. But that is only because the ban on cigarettes in SA has made them ridiculously expensive. I am, however, glad you get the prohibition thing. Once it's over, I will deal with my cigarette addiction.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 1, 2020 7:02:04 GMT
Now that is revolting....
The prohibition thing I get, because of all the other subterfuge it can create, one has to make the decision for themselves regarding what is ideal and wise for them to put into their bodies. The main issue here though, is the point of the thread that apparently there is a decrease in smoking since the corona virus outbreak. LOL. You are absolutely right Toastie, and I have cut down to 25 a day. But that is only because the ban on cigarettes in SA has made them ridiculously expensive. I am, however, glad you get the prohibition thing. Once it's over, I will deal with my cigarette addiction.All the best and hopefully that evil witch doctor in the ANC will come to her senses. But please don't wait until this pandemic fear-mongering is over by buying into gameys bulls<>t.
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Post by jeffersoncody on Aug 1, 2020 7:08:48 GMT
LOL. You are absolutely right Toastie, and I have cut down to 25 a day. But that is only because the ban on cigarettes in SA has made them ridiculously expensive. I am, however, glad you get the prohibition thing. Once it's over, I will deal with my cigarette addiction.All the best and hopefully that evil witch doctor in the ANC will come to her senses. But please don't wait until this pandemic fear-mongering is over by buying into gameys bulls<>t.  Did you watch the trailer of MOFFIE yet Toastie? The main character is gay, so obviously I never climbed into a foxhole and spooned with a fellow trooper, but the romantic stuff aside, this film echoes my own scary experiences in the SADF with uncanny accuracy.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 1, 2020 7:11:49 GMT
All the best and hopefully that evil witch doctor in the ANC will come to her senses. But please don't wait until this pandemic fear-mongering is over by buying into gameys bulls<>t.  Did you watch the trailer of MOFFIE yet Toastie? The main character is gay, so obviously I never climbed into a foxhole and spooned with a fellow trooper, but the romantic stuff aside, this film echoes my own scary experiences in the SADF with uncanny accuracy. Oh no, I haven't watched it yet, will do now. Didn't have an opportunity earlier when you posted it. Looks like some cuties in it.
If you like the movie Casualties Of War, please feel free to comment on my thread. It has been ignored thus far.
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Post by gameboy on Aug 1, 2020 7:21:22 GMT
You're still not listening. It's like talking to a Pentecostal Christian. You are NOT telling me anything. Stop espousing what you think you know and stop talking s<>t. Like an angry Christian preacher on a street corner.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 1, 2020 7:24:51 GMT
You are NOT telling me anything. Stop espousing what you think you know and stop talking s<>t. Like an angry Christian preacher on a street corner. Yes, you are like a deluded angry Christian preacher on the street. Good self-projection of analogy there gamey. There may be some hope for you yet regarding your denial of smoking addiction.
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Post by gameboy on Aug 1, 2020 16:36:08 GMT
Like an angry Christian preacher on a street corner. Yes, you are like a deluded angry Christian preacher on the street. Good self-projection of analogy there gamey. There may be some hope for you yet regarding your denial of smoking addiction. Uh, lol, I'm the one saying "be versatile". You're the deluded believer clutching tight to his dogma.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 1, 2020 21:52:18 GMT
Yes, you are like a deluded angry Christian preacher on the street. Good self-projection of analogy there gamey. There may be some hope for you yet regarding your denial of smoking addiction. Uh, lol, I'm the one saying "be versatile". You're the deluded believer clutching tight to his dogma. I don’t need to be versatile where obvious and plentiful SCIENTIFIC evidence is available regarding health concerns behind cigarette smoking. You keep going but recommending others stave off quitting until a covid-19 cure is found is ludicrous beyond belief. That you are in denial of this also is mind boggling beyond comprehension.
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Post by gameboy on Aug 2, 2020 6:34:22 GMT
Sorry, I'm a militant smoker and I believe the anti-smoking crusade has become a self-righteous pseudo-religious campaign of bitching, whining, and Prohibition. That being said, I know smoking is unhealthy and it's best to quit.
I'm not sure if it's conclusive or not that smoking inhibits the virus. But I do know if it is true there are forces in the healthcare industry which will do everything in their power to suppress any information. I just found the studies in favor of nicotine to be so deliciously ironic. Well said. Your contributions would be most welcome here gameboy. IMDB2.freeforums.net/thread/231567/ot-cigarettes-banned-sa-marchThanks for invite! It seems like the argument has already progressed quite a bit. But I'll check it out.
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Post by gameboy on Aug 2, 2020 6:42:11 GMT
Uh, lol, I'm the one saying "be versatile". You're the deluded believer clutching tight to his dogma. I don’t need to be versatile where obvious and plentiful SCIENTIFIC evidence is available regarding health concerns behind cigarette smoking. You keep going but recommending others stave off quitting until a covid-19 cure is found is ludicrous beyond belief. That you are in denial of this also is mind boggling beyond comprehension. Toaster, you are such a zealot on this issue that you can't look at it rationally.
The SCIENTIFIC evidence is that there may be short term protection from the corona virus with nicotine. That's all I'm saying here. Quitting smoking now may put more people at risk. The quitters in the OP are foolish. If they didn't quit 6 months ago there is sure as hell no good reason to quit in the middle of this pandemic.
You see the world in terms of black and white. Shades of religious faith against the SCIENTIFIC evidence here, or what?
Toasty, the earth is not flat.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 2, 2020 6:47:01 GMT
I don’t need to be versatile where obvious and plentiful SCIENTIFIC evidence is available regarding health concerns behind cigarette smoking. You keep going but recommending others stave off quitting until a covid-19 cure is found is ludicrous beyond belief. That you are in denial of this also is mind boggling beyond comprehension. Toaster, you are such a zealot on this issue that you can't look at it rationally.
The SCIENTIFIC evidence is that there may be short term protection from the corona virus with nicotine. That's all I'm saying here. Quitting smoking now may put more people at risk. The quitters in the OP are foolish. If they didn't quit 6 months ago there is sure as hell no good reason to quit in the middle of this pandemic.
You see the world in terms of black and white. Shades of religious faith against the SCIENTIFIC evidence here, or what?
Toasty, the earth is not flat. ok!
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Post by gameboy on Aug 2, 2020 8:31:34 GMT
Toaster, you are such a zealot on this issue that you can't look at it rationally.
The SCIENTIFIC evidence is that there may be short term protection from the corona virus with nicotine. That's all I'm saying here. Quitting smoking now may put more people at risk. The quitters in the OP are foolish. If they didn't quit 6 months ago there is sure as hell no good reason to quit in the middle of this pandemic.
You see the world in terms of black and white. Shades of religious faith against the SCIENTIFIC evidence here, or what?
Toasty, the earth is not flat. ok! Concession noted.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 2, 2020 10:11:19 GMT
ok! Concession noted. Cretin blacklisted!
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Post by Stammerhead on Aug 2, 2020 10:32:15 GMT
I don’t need to be versatile where obvious and plentiful SCIENTIFIC evidence is available regarding health concerns behind cigarette smoking. You keep going but recommending others stave off quitting until a covid-19 cure is found is ludicrous beyond belief. That you are in denial of this also is mind boggling beyond comprehension. Toaster, you are such a zealot on this issue that you can't look at it rationally.
The SCIENTIFIC evidence is that there may be short term protection from the corona virus with nicotine. That's all I'm saying here. Quitting smoking now may put more people at risk. The quitters in the OP are foolish. If they didn't quit 6 months ago there is sure as hell no good reason to quit in the middle of this pandemic.
You see the world in terms of black and white. Shades of religious faith against the SCIENTIFIC evidence here, or what?
Toasty, the earth is not flat. I think foolish is the wrong term and insulting people is not the way to get the message across. It’s still early days on the benefits of nicotine and (as far as I can see) there haven’t been any explanation of how nicotine helps prevent getting Covid-19. If it’s just nicotine in the body then use patches. If the nicotine has to be directly applied to the lungs then use a less harmful method such as vaping. If there’s more chance of dying from lung cancer than there is of dying from Covid-19 then quit.
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