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Post by hehatesshe on Jul 24, 2020 18:56:55 GMT
Poor guy, sounds like he had a pretty bad flu. At least he didn't die. I remember in the middle of March, there were predictions of millions of deaths in the US by now. The fact that that HASN'T happened should be celebrated as good news. Unfortunately, those of us who bring this up seem to get ridiculed. Why this is I'm not sure. And all it took was shutting 75% of the country down. Which you were opposed to. And further deaths could be saved with social distancing and masks, but you oppose masks too. |
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Post by millar70 on Jul 24, 2020 19:14:48 GMT
Poor guy, sounds like he had a pretty bad flu. At least he didn't die. I remember in the middle of March, there were predictions of millions of deaths in the US by now. The fact that that HASN'T happened should be celebrated as good news. Unfortunately, those of us who bring this up seem to get ridiculed. Why this is I'm not sure. To be fair, nobody could understand where the white house came up with those numbers at the time. I saw it as a clear political trick to grossly overestimate the carnage so when it didn't reach those levels they could pretend they did a good job. We're leading the world in cases and deaths either way, not much to celebrate if you ask me. Some of that is the way our government functions in the first place (hard to stop the spread of the virus when every state is using a different playbook), some of it is the contradictory messages from the CDC (i.e., don't wear masks, wait wear masks), and some of it has to be laid at the feet of the POTUS who said everything would be fine and the virus would disappear once the warm weather hit. I don't think anyone was ridiculing you for pointing out MLBers probably won't die; their point was that there is a place between a mild case of the flu and death, which is where many people have ended up-- even professional athletes. Downplaying the severity of the virus won't actually make it less dangerous, no matter how hard you try. I think that was his point. It wasn't the White House which came up with those initial numbers, it was Imperial College in London that on March 16 first gave it's prediction of over 2 million deaths in the US. I highly doubt that there are many scientists at Imperial College that are rocking MAGA hats. And let's also please remember that over a third of the deaths in this country occurred in the Tri-state area after the decision was made to send people with the virus into nursing homes. Trump didn't make that decision, the governors of those individual states did. I'm not downplaying the intensity of this virus, nor the damage it can cause, even to those who don't die from it. This is an awful thing, and it's gotta be a bitch to be afflicted with it. However, after 5 months of this, it does seem that over 98% of the people that get it don't die from it, and isn't that what's REALLY important? |
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Post by millar70 on Jul 24, 2020 19:23:10 GMT
You think some MLB players, in the prime of their lives, are gonna die due to Covid? Has there been a high number of athletes in their 20's and 30's who have already died due to Covid? Cuz as far as I know, that number currently stands at zero.
But I know.....fear..... About 21,200,000 results (0.59 seconds) Search Results Web results 21-Year-Old College Baseball Player Cody Lyster Dies of ...people.com › Human Interest Apr 14, 2020 - "Our son is proof positive that it can take the life of a young person," Cody Lyster's ... 21-Year-Old College Baseball Player Dies of Coronavirus: 'It's Every ... athlete playing baseball,” his father Kevin Lyster, 49, tells PEOPLE. Two former LSU athletes die of COVID-19 - KATC.comwww.katc.com › sports › lsu-sports › two-former-lsu-at... Mar 29, 2020 - Two former LSU athletes, Orlando McDaniel and Pearson Jordan, ... “Orlando was a tireless worker for the youth in his area of ... The Advocate is also reporting that ex-Tiger sprinter Pearson Jordan has also died of COVID-19. Claremont 13-Year-Old Dies After Experiencing COVID-19 ...losangeles.cbslocal.com › 2020/07/17 › claremont-13-y... 7 days ago - Quarantined inside her home, Cheng said her younger brother ... “Somebody who is athletic, somebody who is on the swimming team who is ... Hudson County Native And Star Athlete Dies Of Coronavirus ...patch.com › new-jersey › hoboken › hudson-county-na... Mar 31, 2020 - leaves behind her younger sister Genesis and her older brother Ricky. Alexis [is] the loving, kind, always ready to have some fun, compassionate, ... Coronavirus New Jersey: 26-year-old athlete from Metuchen ...abc7ny.com › jack-allard-metuchen-new-jersey-corona... Apr 21, 2020 - Coronavirus News: 26-year-old athlete from New Jersey released ... Murphy says Jack Allard nearly died despite being as athletic as anyone. He was an athlete in the best shape of his life. Then Covid-19 ...www.cnn.com › 2020/06/30 › health › coronavirus-athlet... Where did my legs go?" Ayyad is a coronavirus survivor. Doctors had placed him in an induced coma ... Jun 30, 2020 Missing: young | Must include: young 'Healthy' 25-year-old now in medically-induced coma with ...www.nydailynews.com › coronavirus › ny-coronavirus... Mar 25, 2020 - Athletic, 'healthy' 25-year-old New Jersey man now in medically-induced coma from coronavirus: mom ... It would be interesting to see those entire articles, instead of the blips that you've posted. I've seen articles about young folks who have died from this, and it's funny how once you read the entire thing, it turns out that the person had some other kind of medical condition. Not downplaying the horror of a young person's death, just want to make sure that it's a pure Covid death, not one that was Covid related. Once again, based on the data from Johns Hopkins that I check out every day, there simply aren't that many young people dying strictly due to Covid. Any virus can have a fatal effect on someone with serious medical conditions. |
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Post by millar70 on Jul 24, 2020 19:29:41 GMT
Poor guy, sounds like he had a pretty bad flu. At least he didn't die. I remember in the middle of March, there were predictions of millions of deaths in the US by now. The fact that that HASN'T happened should be celebrated as good news. Unfortunately, those of us who bring this up seem to get ridiculed. Why this is I'm not sure. And all it took was shutting 75% of the country down. Which you were opposed to. And further deaths could be saved with social distancing and masks, but you oppose masks too. Who said I oppose masks? I'm wearing one right now, dumbass. I'm opposed to being FORCED to wear a mask. I don't dig being FORCED to do anything. I understand that wearing them prevents spread of the disease, although as we are all wearing them the disease is spreading faster than ever, so there's that. And I'm also concerned about the health risks of spending all day long wearing a mask. This hasn't been explored yet, as all of this is still new, but time will tell if wearing a mask all day does as much harm as good. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 24, 2020 19:58:20 GMT
To be fair, nobody could understand where the white house came up with those numbers at the time. I saw it as a clear political trick to grossly overestimate the carnage so when it didn't reach those levels they could pretend they did a good job. We're leading the world in cases and deaths either way, not much to celebrate if you ask me. Some of that is the way our government functions in the first place (hard to stop the spread of the virus when every state is using a different playbook), some of it is the contradictory messages from the CDC (i.e., don't wear masks, wait wear masks), and some of it has to be laid at the feet of the POTUS who said everything would be fine and the virus would disappear once the warm weather hit. I don't think anyone was ridiculing you for pointing out MLBers probably won't die; their point was that there is a place between a mild case of the flu and death, which is where many people have ended up-- even professional athletes. Downplaying the severity of the virus won't actually make it less dangerous, no matter how hard you try. I think that was his point. It wasn't the White House which came up with those initial numbers, it was Imperial College in London that on March 16 first gave it's prediction of over 2 million deaths in the US. I highly doubt that there are many scientists at Imperial College that are rocking MAGA hats. And let's also please remember that over a third of the deaths in this country occurred in the Tri-state area after the decision was made to send people with the virus into nursing homes. Trump didn't make that decision, the governors of those individual states did. I'm not downplaying the intensity of this virus, nor the damage it can cause, even to those who don't die from it. This is an awful thing, and it's gotta be a bitch to be afflicted with it. However, after 5 months of this, it does seem that over 98% of the people that get it don't die from it, and isn't that what's REALLY important? That number came from a model that presumed the government did literally nothing, no lockdowns etc. They used that number because it presented the absolute worst case scenario which they knew wouldn't come to pass if they initiated some form of shutdown. Trump has encouraged states to open up and citizens to protest in states that haven't opened fast enough. That would be a bad look for a right wing blogger, let alone the president. But I thought I split the blame pie evenly, so we don't need to argue Trump all day. The dead and those still in serious danger are what's really important. And again, simply not dying from it isn't exactly a victory. It's been devastating to many people, and carries lingering effects that may last a long time for some survivors. I agree the media should focus some on the positive numbers, such as full recoveries; but again we shouldn't downplay the severity of the disease and lure people into a false sense of security. |
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Post by hehatesshe on Jul 24, 2020 20:01:02 GMT
And all it took was shutting 75% of the country down. Which you were opposed to. And further deaths could be saved with social distancing and masks, but you oppose masks too. Who said I oppose masks? I'm wearing one right now, dumbass. I'm opposed to being FORCED to wear a mask. I don't dig being FORCED to do anything. I understand that wearing them prevents spread of the disease, although as we are all wearing them the disease is spreading faster than ever, so there's that. And I'm also concerned about the health risks of spending all day long wearing a mask. This hasn't been explored yet, as all of this is still new, but time will tell if wearing a mask all day does as much harm as good. That's splitting hairs, dumbass. You're opposed. And further, you are forced to do things everyday. Wear pants? Don't wanna? Still gotta. Seatbelts. Don't wanna? Still gotta. Stop signs. Don't wanna? Still gotta. Taxes. Don't wanna? Still gotta. Nurses wear masks all day long. They have for a long time. As have dentists. There is no study on it, because until your ilk decided to be against them, they weren't debated. And no one has to wear a mask all day long. You're supposed to be social distancing. At work, some jobs you need a mask all day long. But if you go to a restaurant, you have the mask on for less than a minute as you go to your table. You go into a gas station, it's on while you're in there and then you can take it off as soon as you're done. People aren't just walking around with masks on for 16 hours a day against their will.* On days I don't work, I probably have a mask on for less than an hour total. *except the aforementioned nurses. |
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Post by millar70 on Jul 24, 2020 20:03:39 GMT
It wasn't the White House which came up with those initial numbers, it was Imperial College in London that on March 16 first gave it's prediction of over 2 million deaths in the US. I highly doubt that there are many scientists at Imperial College that are rocking MAGA hats. And let's also please remember that over a third of the deaths in this country occurred in the Tri-state area after the decision was made to send people with the virus into nursing homes. Trump didn't make that decision, the governors of those individual states did. I'm not downplaying the intensity of this virus, nor the damage it can cause, even to those who don't die from it. This is an awful thing, and it's gotta be a bitch to be afflicted with it. However, after 5 months of this, it does seem that over 98% of the people that get it don't die from it, and isn't that what's REALLY important? That number came from a model that presumed the government did literally nothing, no lockdowns etc. They used that number because it presented the absolute worst case scenario which they knew wouldn't come to pass if they initiated some form of shutdown. Trump has encouraged states to open up and citizens to protest in states that haven't opened fast enough. That would be a bad look for a right wing blogger, let alone the president. But I thought I split the blame pie evenly, so we don't need to argue Trump all day. The dead and those still in serious danger are what's really important. And again, simply not dying from it isn't exactly a victory. It's been devastating to many people, and carries lingering effects that may last a long time for some survivors. I agree the media should focus some on the positive numbers, such as full recoveries; but again we shouldn't downplay the severity of the disease and lure people into a false sense of security. I don't want to argue about Trump, but I gotta say.....Trump encouraged citizens to protest? Huh?? |
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Post by millar70 on Jul 24, 2020 20:07:02 GMT
Who said I oppose masks? I'm wearing one right now, dumbass. I'm opposed to being FORCED to wear a mask. I don't dig being FORCED to do anything. I understand that wearing them prevents spread of the disease, although as we are all wearing them the disease is spreading faster than ever, so there's that. And I'm also concerned about the health risks of spending all day long wearing a mask. This hasn't been explored yet, as all of this is still new, but time will tell if wearing a mask all day does as much harm as good. That's splitting hairs, dumbass. You're opposed. And further, you are forced to do things everyday. Wear pants? Don't wanna? Still gotta. Seatbelts. Don't wanna? Still gotta. Stop signs. Don't wanna? Still gotta. Taxes. Don't wanna? Still gotta. Nurses wear masks all day long. They have for a long time. As have dentists. There is no study on it, because until your ilk decided to be against them, they weren't debated. And no one has to wear a mask all day long. You're supposed to be social distancing. At work, some jobs you need a mask all day long. But if you go to a restaurant, you have the mask on for less than a minute as you go to your table. You go into a gas station, it's on while you're in there and then you can take it off as soon as you're done. People aren't just walking around with masks on for 16 hours a day against their will.* On days I don't work, I probably have a mask on for less than an hour total. *except the aforementioned nurses. Wait, someone is forcing me to wear pants? Now I'm REALLY pissed..... |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 24, 2020 20:10:47 GMT
That number came from a model that presumed the government did literally nothing, no lockdowns etc. They used that number because it presented the absolute worst case scenario which they knew wouldn't come to pass if they initiated some form of shutdown. Trump has encouraged states to open up and citizens to protest in states that haven't opened fast enough. That would be a bad look for a right wing blogger, let alone the president. But I thought I split the blame pie evenly, so we don't need to argue Trump all day. The dead and those still in serious danger are what's really important. And again, simply not dying from it isn't exactly a victory. It's been devastating to many people, and carries lingering effects that may last a long time for some survivors. I agree the media should focus some on the positive numbers, such as full recoveries; but again we shouldn't downplay the severity of the disease and lure people into a false sense of security. I don't want to argue about Trump, but I gotta say.....Trump encouraged citizens to protest? Huh?? You really don't remember when he was tweeting "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!" LIBERATE MINNESOTA!" and so on back in April? |
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Post by hehatesshe on Jul 24, 2020 20:13:33 GMT
That's splitting hairs, dumbass. You're opposed. And further, you are forced to do things everyday. Wear pants? Don't wanna? Still gotta. Seatbelts. Don't wanna? Still gotta. Stop signs. Don't wanna? Still gotta. Taxes. Don't wanna? Still gotta. Nurses wear masks all day long. They have for a long time. As have dentists. There is no study on it, because until your ilk decided to be against them, they weren't debated. And no one has to wear a mask all day long. You're supposed to be social distancing. At work, some jobs you need a mask all day long. But if you go to a restaurant, you have the mask on for less than a minute as you go to your table. You go into a gas station, it's on while you're in there and then you can take it off as soon as you're done. People aren't just walking around with masks on for 16 hours a day against their will.* On days I don't work, I probably have a mask on for less than an hour total. *except the aforementioned nurses. Wait, someone is forcing me to wear pants? Now I'm REALLY pissed..... I do pray to your God that you wear some form of clothing on your lower half when you are out and about. |
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Post by millar70 on Jul 24, 2020 20:15:51 GMT
So those tweets caused the riots? Uhhh, okay...... And btw, don't give me links to articles from the Washington Post and the New York Times, and expect any kind of "sudden change" in my way of thinking. Call me nuts, dude, but it's possible those articles might be a wee bit skewed against Trump. I can't reveal how I know this, I'm just going on a whim. |
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Post by millar70 on Jul 24, 2020 20:16:25 GMT
Wait, someone is forcing me to wear pants? Now I'm REALLY pissed..... I do pray to your God that you wear some form of clothing on your lower half when you are out and about. You wish..... |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 24, 2020 20:19:33 GMT
So those tweets caused the riots? Uhhh, okay...... And btw, don't give me links to articles from the Washington Post and the New York Times, and expect any kind of "sudden change" in my way of thinking. Call me nuts, dude, but it's possible those articles might be a wee bit skewed against Trump. I can't reveal how I know this, I'm just going on a whim. Riots? I'm talking about the protests going on at that time, not the BLM protests. Those articles don't exactly hide their bias. That doesn't change the fact that he made those tweets encouraging his supporters to go out and protest the very lockdowns that were in place for the greater public health. |
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Post by sdm3 on Jul 24, 2020 20:42:31 GMT
So those tweets caused the riots? Uhhh, okay...... And btw, don't give me links to articles from the Washington Post and the New York Times, and expect any kind of "sudden change" in my way of thinking. Call me nuts, dude, but it's possible those articles might be a wee bit skewed against Trump. I can't reveal how I know this, I'm just going on a whim. Riots? I'm talking about the protests going on at that time, not the BLM protests. Those articles don't exactly hide their bias. That doesn't change the fact that he made those tweets encouraging his supporters to go out and protest the very lockdowns that were in place for the greater public health. So Trump caused the BLM riots, is that what you’re saying? |
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Post by millar70 on Jul 24, 2020 20:56:18 GMT
So those tweets caused the riots? Uhhh, okay...... And btw, don't give me links to articles from the Washington Post and the New York Times, and expect any kind of "sudden change" in my way of thinking. Call me nuts, dude, but it's possible those articles might be a wee bit skewed against Trump. I can't reveal how I know this, I'm just going on a whim. Riots? I'm talking about the protests going on at that time, not the BLM protests. Those articles don't exactly hide their bias. That doesn't change the fact that he made those tweets encouraging his supporters to go out and protest the very lockdowns that were in place for the greater public health. Fair enough. Do you think the current spread of the virus has more to do with the Trump supporters protests or the George Floyd protests? |
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Post by fjenkins on Jul 24, 2020 23:06:26 GMT
And claim they have a back injury. Or some other injury. I think this will happen. Did Kershaw really hurt his back? Could be. Spoken like a Giants' fan. Listen, Kershaw is made of glass which is why I never draft him in fantasy. The dude could play a Chess game with a friend, and somehow end up on IR because of it. Yup, Giants fan. That said, Kershaw is the best lefty of our generation, I'd trade my left nut to get him. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jul 25, 2020 3:11:10 GMT
Wow... so Yahoo fantasy is labelling 'COVID-19' beside any positive player. I guess that does facilitate monitoring their teammates. I guess it just seems jarring like guy's blacklisted.
Weird, so on my team it's Travis d'Arnaud... listed out 'COVID-19' but clicking on details reveals no positive result yet, merely symptoms. Tough crowd.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jul 25, 2020 20:37:04 GMT
Riots? I'm talking about the protests going on at that time, not the BLM protests. Those articles don't exactly hide their bias. That doesn't change the fact that he made those tweets encouraging his supporters to go out and protest the very lockdowns that were in place for the greater public health. Fair enough. Do you think the current spread of the virus has more to do with the Trump supporters protests or the George Floyd protests? Neither. It has more to do with some states opening everything up too soon. They should've staggered it to a greater degree, and people need to adhere to the proper protocols. There have been plenty of BLM protests up here and we didn't have massive spikes in covid cases. |
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Post by bluerisk on Jul 25, 2020 21:34:20 GMT
Poor guy, sounds like he had a pretty bad flu. At least he didn't die. I remember in the middle of March, there were predictions of millions of deaths in the US by now. The fact that that HASN'T happened should be celebrated as good news. Unfortunately, those of us who bring this up seem to get ridiculed. Why this is I'm not sure. To be fair, nobody could understand where the white house came up with those numbers at the time. I saw it as a clear political trick to grossly overestimate the carnage so when it didn't reach those levels they could pretend they did a good job. We're leading the world in cases and deaths either way, not much to celebrate if you ask me. Some of that is the way our government functions in the first place (hard to stop the spread of the virus when every state is using a different playbook), some of it is the contradictory messages from the CDC (i.e., don't wear masks, wait wear masks), and some of it has to be laid at the feet of the POTUS who said everything would be fine and the virus would disappear once the warm weather hit. I don't think anyone was ridiculing you for pointing out MLBers probably won't die; their point was that there is a place between a mild case of the flu and death, which is where many people have ended up-- even professional athletes. Downplaying the severity of the virus won't actually make it less dangerous, no matter how hard you try. I think that was his point. Not per Capita, and the Western world might be the only one which is honest with the numbers: www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/You have even dropped over the last weeks. And don't forget the nationwide riots of the BLM movement. |
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