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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 21:39:23 GMT
Interesting. I think it's just no longer useful. The idea of cursive-- correct me if I'm wrong-- was to make writing by hand quicker and easier by allowing you to flow in fluid strokes rather than block printing which is slow and methodical. The thing is, we just don't write by hand as often as we once needed to. If done at all, it is rare and printing can suffice. I even signed VERY important documents on line with autosign . There is no real reason to learn cursive. I didn't know why it was invented. My mom didn't know how to print! Again, I'm just speculating, but it was likely because it is a faster method of handwriting. If you're good at cursive, you can knock out a paragraph in the time it takes a printer to write a sentence and a half because you are flowing from letter to letter rather than putting them down in blocks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 21:42:48 GMT
Well, there's grade school cursive where they're still sort of printing and the letters are largely upright and solid and there's hard cursive where you are just gliding with a pen or pencil and it leans and flows. I've never seen a method where the vast majority of the letters (lowercase and caps) didn't strongly resemble the printed form. Well, look at some writings in hard cursive as compared to the grade school level stuff and you'll see what I mean. That would be a little rougher for a novice to handle than this:
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Post by kls on Jul 25, 2020 21:45:10 GMT
I've never seen a method where the vast majority of the letters (lowercase and caps) didn't strongly resemble the printed form. Well, look at some writings in hard cursive as compared to the grade school level stuff and you'll see what I mean. That would be a little rougher for a novice to handle than this: I can decipher them. But I don't regard either as properly formed cursive.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 21:46:00 GMT
I can decipher them. But I don't regard either as properly formed cursive. Okay. What is properly formed cursive by your standards?
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Post by autumn on Jul 25, 2020 21:50:59 GMT
Of course I can. I love writing it and reading it. It's elegant. I also had Penmanship classes in grade school and excelled, so I taught other students. It's beautiful. I mourn the loss of it.
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Post by kls on Jul 25, 2020 21:53:58 GMT
I can decipher them. But I don't regard either as properly formed cursive. Okay. What is properly formed cursive by your standards? To me it's what you'd see in the cursive books and worksheet that would be taught in school (in the ones that teach writing it). I don't see why cursive should vary much more between writers than print does.
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Post by kls on Jul 25, 2020 21:55:06 GMT
Of course I can. I love writing it and reading it. It's elegant. I also had Penmanship classes in grade school and excelled, so I taught other students. It's beautiful. I mourn the loss of it. But did it take excelling in the writing to be able to read it?
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Post by autumn on Jul 25, 2020 21:57:15 GMT
Of course I can. I love writing it and reading it. It's elegant. I also had Penmanship classes in grade school and excelled, so I taught other students. It's beautiful. I mourn the loss of it. But did it take excelling in the writing to be able to read it? No. It just took common sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 21:58:03 GMT
Okay. What is properly formed cursive by your standards? To me it's what you'd see in the cursive books and worksheet that would be taught in school (in the ones that teach writing it). I don't see why cursive should vary much more between writers than print does. Hmm? Writing in print and writing in a cursive flow is the same difference as being able to hit each part of a drum kit and being able to put out a good fast solo. Once you get to cursive, people have their own quirks that wouldn't be present in print. Blending letters, implying letters, flourishes, you name it. It's a freeform sort of style.
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Post by kls on Jul 25, 2020 22:03:15 GMT
To me it's what you'd see in the cursive books and worksheet that would be taught in school (in the ones that teach writing it). I don't see why cursive should vary much more between writers than print does. Hmm? Writing in print and writing in a cursive flow is the same difference as being able to hit each part of a drum kit and being able to put out a good fast solo. Once you get to cursive, people have their own quirks that wouldn't be present in print. Blending letters, implying letters, flourishes, you name it. It's a freeform sort of style. I mean we all have a 'style' but the letters are the letters. We can't communicate with others in something that gets too drastic like individual alphabets.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 22:05:34 GMT
Hmm? Writing in print and writing in a cursive flow is the same difference as being able to hit each part of a drum kit and being able to put out a good fast solo. Once you get to cursive, people have their own quirks that wouldn't be present in print. Blending letters, implying letters, flourishes, you name it. It's a freeform sort of style. I mean we all have a 'style' but the letters are the letters. We can't communicate with others in something that gets too drastic like individual alphabets. That's not the same issue. Deciphering cursive, as it was used, means understanding a person's flow of the pen. The comparison to music is apt; it is a rhythm and a technique. However, that means a lot of it could come off as cryptic even if you do know cursive, because it just does not click for you. That's probably another reason why it has fallen to the wayside.
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Post by Jayman on Jul 25, 2020 22:22:31 GMT
It's how I write and sign checks and write on greeting cards. I don't do much writing so when I do it is sloppy because I am not used to writing anymore since most things are digital these days
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Post by enigma72 on Jul 25, 2020 23:14:09 GMT
I even signed VERY important documents on line with autosign . There is no real reason to learn cursive. I didn't know why it was invented. My mom didn't know how to print! Again, I'm just speculating, but it was likely because it is a faster method of handwriting. If you're good at cursive, you can knock out a paragraph in the time it takes a printer to write a sentence and a half because you are flowing from letter to letter rather than putting them down in blocks. Makes sense.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 26, 2020 7:54:28 GMT
They taught us that in 2nd grade, like they taught us to add and subtract without a calculator. They're not teaching it anymore.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jul 26, 2020 8:39:20 GMT
Not my own. I have the worst hen-scratch possible. Try it on the computer sometime. It gets even worse. sketchtoy.com/
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Post by Morgana on Jul 26, 2020 10:23:01 GMT
Yes. I still write in cursive, or, to be honest, a semi-cursive type of writing. I only use print if it's something work related and I'm afraid the person might not be able to read what I have written.
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Post by Morgana on Jul 26, 2020 10:30:29 GMT
To me it's what you'd see in the cursive books and worksheet that would be taught in school (in the ones that teach writing it). I don't see why cursive should vary much more between writers than print does. Hmm? Writing in print and writing in a cursive flow is the same difference as being able to hit each part of a drum kit and being able to put out a good fast solo. Once you get to cursive, people have their own quirks that wouldn't be present in print. Blending letters, implying letters, flourishes, you name it. It's a freeform sort of style. I agree. I write in cursive sometimes, but it's my 'own' type of cursive.
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Post by Vodkie on Jul 26, 2020 15:15:32 GMT
yes as long as it isn't mine.
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Post by Ass_E9 on Jul 28, 2020 16:29:21 GMT
It's easier for me if some alphabet letters are included and are not all symbols.
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Post by Jokers_Wilde on Jul 29, 2020 17:56:27 GMT
Depends on who is doing the writing.
Me? No. Sometimes, I can't even read my own writing.
If I take my time, perhaps someone else could read it.
Anyone else doing the writing? More than likely.
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