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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 5, 2020 21:55:16 GMT
I wonder why these Christians believe the Devil is a goat or goat man? Satan is depicted in the Bible as human-like in appearance. Goat men in the nearby Greek world were not seen as evil creatures, but as mischievous, stupid, and hedonistic. Have you ever spent any time with goats? I have... I have had a pair of goats - siblings - for years. They eat weeds, so they keep my property less weedy without having to mow. The deal is, they are naughty, naughty bad, lol! They eat my flowers, head-butt each other over which goat gets which weed, tear stuff up and escape the fence frequently. I tolerate this because they are so cute, and keep me laughing! One of my other rural friends gave her goats away because she couldn't keep them out of the swimming pool. I enjoy the comparison of goats to the Devil, metaphorically, because of the nature of sheep - used to describe followers of god - which was explained to me by my veterinarian. I told him I had considered keeping a few sheep, for the wool and the cute little lambs; he said "don't raise sheep, Rachel" I asked why. He said "because they are brainless idiots." ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I guess they taught him that at vet school!
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 5, 2020 22:05:57 GMT
Have you ever spent any time with goats? I have... I have had a pair of goats - siblings - for years. They eat weeds, so they keep my property less weedy without having to mow. The deal is, they are naughty, naughty bad, lol! They eat my flowers, head-butt each other over which goat gets which weed, tear stuff up and escape the fence frequently. I tolerate this because they are so cute, and keep me laughing! One of my other rural friends gave her goats away because she couldn't keep them out of the swimming pool. I enjoy the comparison of goats to the Devil, metaphorically, because of the nature of sheep - used to describe followers of god - which was explained to me by my veterinarian. I told him I had considered keeping a few sheep, for the wool and the cute little lambs; he said "don't raise sheep, Rachel" I asked why. He said "because they are brainless idiots." ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I guess they taught him that at vet school! The Judas Goat, of course, is the billy the sheep follow into the fleecing shed. “Just follow me, little suck—I mean lambs.” ![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HihWxmB_SPE/maxresdefault.jpg) Exactly!
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Post by gadreel on Aug 5, 2020 22:35:26 GMT
I wonder why these Christians believe the Devil is a goat or goat man? Satan is depicted in the Bible as human-like in appearance. Goat men in the nearby Greek world were not seen as evil creatures, but as mischievous, stupid, and hedonistic. I am pretty sure the depiction is because there were pagan gods and beings who were goats, as you mention in the greek myths. The gods of other religions very quickly become satan in Christianity
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Post by gadreel on Aug 5, 2020 22:49:21 GMT
I am pretty sure the depiction is because there were pagan gods and beings who were goats, as you mention in the greek myths. The gods of other religions very quickly become satan in Christianity
True. I like to ask such questions hoping a magical thinker will realize how much of his or her religion is just local myths and mores covering the original Hebrew myths. I estimate zero will actually do this. Even so, in early Christian art, Satan appeared as an angel. Lucifer mentioned in Isaiah and Satan in Revelation are two different characters. There also seems to be very little observation that the position that the goat sits in in the bamphomet is a very powerful occult position and I am pretty sure it predates the bamphomet
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Post by goz on Aug 6, 2020 3:49:56 GMT
I wonder why these Christians believe the Devil is a goat or goat man? Satan is depicted in the Bible as human-like in appearance. Goat men in the nearby Greek world were not seen as evil creatures, but as mischievous, stupid, and hedonistic. Have you ever spent any time with goats? I have... I have had a pair of goats - siblings - for years. They eat weeds, so they keep my property less weedy without having to mow. The deal is, they are naughty, naughty bad, lol! They eat my flowers, head-butt each other over which goat gets which weed, tear stuff up and escape the fence frequently. I tolerate this because they are so cute, and keep me laughing! One of my other rural friends gave her goats away because she couldn't keep them out of the swimming pool. I enjoy the comparison of goats to the Devil, metaphorically, because of the nature of sheep - used to describe followers of god - which was explained to me by my veterinarian. I told him I had considered keeping a few sheep, for the wool and the cute little lambs; he said "don't raise sheep, Rachel" I asked why. He said "because they are brainless idiots." ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I guess they taught him that at vet school! I adore goast and have always wanted to own one specailly a pygmy goat. Not about to happen in suburbia... HOWEVER your story about the neighbour's goats and the swimming pools reminds me of an incident that I had in my work as an interior decorator doing home visits to advise on decor etc. Upon arrival at the front gate I was met by two exhuberant friendly golden labradors. WE kissed and cuddled and patted and licked each other until I was rescued by the client. To restrain them becasue they were in love with me, she locked them in the fenced swimming pool area, so that we could work out her colours and curtains etc for redecoration, An hour or so later we went out the back to release them and they had 'rescued' the mobile swimming pool cleaner and eaten most of the flexible cord/piping. An expensive visit which cost me the job as she could not afford BOTH expenses! LOL
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 6, 2020 16:51:20 GMT
Have you ever spent any time with goats? I have... I have had a pair of goats - siblings - for years. They eat weeds, so they keep my property less weedy without having to mow. The deal is, they are naughty, naughty bad, lol! They eat my flowers, head-butt each other over which goat gets which weed, tear stuff up and escape the fence frequently. I tolerate this because they are so cute, and keep me laughing! One of my other rural friends gave her goats away because she couldn't keep them out of the swimming pool. I enjoy the comparison of goats to the Devil, metaphorically, because of the nature of sheep - used to describe followers of god - which was explained to me by my veterinarian. I told him I had considered keeping a few sheep, for the wool and the cute little lambs; he said "don't raise sheep, Rachel" I asked why. He said "because they are brainless idiots." ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) I guess they taught him that at vet school! I adore goast and have always wanted to own one specailly a pygmy goat. Not about to happen in suburbia... HOWEVER your story about the neighbour's goats and the swimming pools reminds me of an incident that I had in my work as an interior decorator doing home visits to advise on decor etc. Upon arrival at the front gate I was met by two exhuberant friendly golden labradors. WE kissed and cuddled and patted and licked each other until I was rescued by the client. To restrain them becasue they were in love with me, she locked them in the fenced swimming pool area, so that we could work out her colours and curtains etc for redecoration, An hour or so later we went out the back to release them and they had 'rescued' the mobile swimming pool cleaner and eaten most of the flexible cord/piping. An expensive visit which cost me the job as she could not afford BOTH expenses! LOL Those weren't Golden Labs, those were goats in Golden Lab clothing, lol! I adopted an Australian Shepherd puppy a year or so ago; he and my Cavalier King Charles Spaniel have destroyed my woodland 'courtyard'... the trees still stand, and some of the phlox and violets have survived the pounding puppy paws, but of I buy a flowering plant, it has to hang in a pot dangling on a tree branch. But they are just so cute and lovable... sigh...
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