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Post by FilmFlaneur on Aug 11, 2020 18:44:21 GMT
the "intelligent designer" has not picked and does not pick sides. So much for chosen peoples, and the convenants given unto them then - or the notion of morality, come to that. Deuteronomy 30:19: "I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live." So much for the the Ten Commandments. Jesus answered, "It is said: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'" Luke 4.12 And so much for grammar and clarity.
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 11, 2020 22:26:13 GMT
the "intelligent designer" has not picked and does not pick sides. So much for chosen peoples, and the convenants given unto them then - or the notion of morality, come to that. Deuteronomy 30:19: "I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live." So much for the the Ten Commandments. Jesus answered, "It is said: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'" Luke 4.12 And so much for grammar and clarity. And so much for whiny atheists on the internet who also are humbled by their lack of control over it all.
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 11, 2020 22:27:41 GMT
I don't go very far in it because there is no telling what might fall off it next. My parts are still securely attached. Perhaps a leaky carburetor... It's not that old. It has fuel injectors (very common now), not a carburetor.
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Post by goz on Aug 11, 2020 22:30:16 GMT
What is the point of an intelligent designer if it doesn't do stuff, by its own authority, at will? What is the intelligent designer's agenda? Why does the intelligent designer interfere with anything at all, let alone amyshost's alleged dictatorship? WTF is that anyway? If she has one I want one tooooooo!!!!    There is no simple or easy way to know what the intelligent designer might do or when. That's the point. It forces people to realize they do not have the final word. The reason Trump republicans have not attempted to acknowledge any intelligent designer is not so much that they agree with you on biology, but that they agree with you on not challenging authority with anything ever. What does the Intelligent Designer have to do with Trump excpet for you to use as a non-sequiter because you have no other answer?
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 11, 2020 22:38:21 GMT
There is no simple or easy way to know what the intelligent designer might do or when. That's the point. It forces people to realize they do not have the final word. The reason Trump republicans have not attempted to acknowledge any intelligent designer is not so much that they agree with you on biology, but that they agree with you on not challenging authority with anything ever. What does the Intelligent Designer have to do with Trump excpet for you to use as a non-sequiter because you have no other answer? For goldfish everything is a non sequit ur.
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Post by goz on Aug 11, 2020 22:44:31 GMT
What does the Intelligent Designer have to do with Trump excpet for you to use as a non-sequiter because you have no other answer? For goldfish everything is a non sequit ur. That may be so, however what does your assertion that the Intelligent Designer has something to do with Trump in your post actually mean?
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 11, 2020 22:54:26 GMT
For goldfish everything is a non sequit ur. That may be so, however what does your assertion that the Intelligent Designer has something to do with Trump in your post actually mean? I believe I explained why Trump _Republicans_ do not discuss _intelligent_design_.
^^^ ------ connection ------ ^^^
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Post by goz on Aug 11, 2020 22:57:06 GMT
That may be so, however what does your assertion that the Intelligent Designer has something to do with Trump in your post actually mean? I believe I explained why Trump _Republicans_ do not discuss _intelligent_design_.
^^^ ------ connection ------ ^^^ No. Not to me.
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 11, 2020 23:00:44 GMT
I believe I explained why Trump _Republicans_ do not discuss _intelligent_design_.
^^^ ------ connection ------ ^^^ No. Not to me. Yes, to you.
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Post by amyghost on Aug 12, 2020 10:37:45 GMT
In Arlon's world, it would seem, this makes for a handy excuse as to not challenging the authority of that conveniently nebulous sky-fairy. 'Intelligent designer', my foot. Come off it and simply admit you have no definition to put to this god/designer of yours. It's an amorphous blob that can be stretched, pulled, shaped and molded--rather like Silly Putty--to conform to whatever ideological shape it's convenient for you to have it assume, the better to support your current argument (more like act of logicide) du jour.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Aug 12, 2020 18:46:34 GMT
So much for chosen peoples, and the convenants given unto them then - or the notion of morality, come to that. Deuteronomy 30:19: "I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live." So much for the the Ten Commandments. Jesus answered, "It is said: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'" Luke 4.12 And so much for grammar and clarity. And so much for whiny atheists on the internet who also are humbled by their lack of control over it all. Say what?
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Aug 12, 2020 19:08:19 GMT
So much for chosen peoples, and the convenants given unto them then - or the notion of morality, come to that. Deuteronomy 30:19: "I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live." So much for the the Ten Commandments. Jesus answered, "It is said: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'" Luke 4.12 And so much for grammar and clarity. And so much for whiny atheists on the internet who also are humbled by their lack of control over it all. Unlike Christians who stay in a tizzy because everyone will not knuckle down and accept everything they say as the gospel truth...without evidence.
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Post by Toasted Cheese on Aug 12, 2020 23:03:34 GMT
What is the point of an intelligent designer if it doesn't do stuff, by its own authority, at will? What is the intelligent designer's agenda? Why does the intelligent designer interfere with anything at all, let alone amyshost's alleged dictatorship? WTF is that anyway? If she has one I want one tooooooo!!!! There is no simple or easy way to know what the intelligent designer might do or when. That's the point. It forces people to realize they do not have the final word. The reason Trump republicans have not attempted to acknowledge any intelligent designer is not so much that they agree with you on biology, but that they agree with you on not challenging authority with anything ever. Arlon, how about you start to become more of an intelligent designer of your own thoughts and processes and you won’t have to end up playing the court jester around here.
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Post by goz on Aug 12, 2020 23:12:12 GMT
There is no simple or easy way to know what the intelligent designer might do or when. That's the point. It forces people to realize they do not have the final word. The reason Trump republicans have not attempted to acknowledge any intelligent designer is not so much that they agree with you on biology, but that they agree with you on not challenging authority with anything ever. Arlon, how about you start to become more of an intelligent designer of your own thoughts and processes and you won’t have to end up playing the court jester around here. Well, to be fair, it seems like PLanet ARlon designed his own version of the Intelligent Designer to suit his own agendas!
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 13, 2020 1:09:56 GMT
And so much for whiny atheists on the internet who also are humbled by their lack of control over it all. Say what? Although the intelligent designer might be the same god as in the Bible, neither you nor I can establish that. I don't have any magical powers, do you? So why are you quoting scriptures? What are you trying to say?
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 13, 2020 1:27:05 GMT
And so much for whiny atheists on the internet who also are humbled by their lack of control over it all. Unlike Christians who stay in a tizzy because everyone will not knuckle down and accept everything they say as the gospel truth...without evidence. Who are those "Christians" of which you speak? What have they to do with any religion? When have you been any judge of evidence?
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Aug 13, 2020 1:35:05 GMT
And so much for whiny atheists on the internet who also are humbled by their lack of control over it all.Unlike Christians who stay in a tizzy because everyone will not knuckle down and accept everything they say as the gospel truth...without evidence. Who are those "Christians" of which you speak? What have they to do with any religion? When have you been any judge of evidence? You and others hear who post circular arguments like “God exists because God says he exists in the Bible.”
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 13, 2020 12:21:56 GMT
Who are those "Christians" of which you speak? What have they to do with any religion? When have you been any judge of evidence? You and others hear who post circular arguments like “God exists because God says he exists in the Bible.” I'm glad you have better things to do than follow this board, but I would note the you do not follow it well.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Aug 13, 2020 14:12:39 GMT
You and others hear who post circular arguments like “God exists because God says he exists in the Bible.” I'm glad you have better things to do than follow this board, but I would note the you do not follow it well. Then why do you think the Bible is true?
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 13, 2020 16:58:51 GMT
I'm glad you have better things to do than follow this board, but I would note the you do not follow it well. Then why do you think the Bible is true? Good point! Why doesn't he think the Vedas are true? Krishna, Vishnu, Parvati, Ganesh et al, would say the Veda is true... Allah would say that the Koran is true... I will spare everyone the continuation of this list... suffice it to say that in EVERY religion, still being practiced or no longer practiced, the deity or deities involved claim their religion is true, and followers accept that. Why? Epidemiology, not evidence. If I had been born in India, I would have been either Hindu or Muslim, depending on my parents If I had been born in Tibet, I would have been Buddhist. Location, location, location. Period. Circular arguments makes everyone's head spin...   
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