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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 5, 2020 21:27:57 GMT
They presented footage of thugs dressed in all dark clothing terrorizing the electrical system to explain why the lights and sound kept flickering on and off unknowingly.
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Post by Jayman on Aug 7, 2020 15:58:56 GMT
They presented footage of thugs dressed in all dark clothing terrorizing the electrical system to explain why the lights and sound kept flickering on and off unknowingly. i didn’t see it. But in this new and backwards world we’re in, if there was an angle, it wouldn’t surprise me if in the eyes of the fanbase, antifa would be the babyfaces and the people waving the American flag in opposition are considered the heels. As much as I despise Vince macmahon and his company, at least he is still sane when it comes to these issues.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 8, 2020 5:12:24 GMT
The group has a name "Retribution", they are definitely influenced by ANTIFA and will be portrayed as heels, but the angle won't be political. Wonder how far this can go.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 19, 2020 15:43:07 GMT
They presented footage of thugs dressed in all dark clothing terrorizing the electrical system to explain why the lights and sound kept flickering on and off unknowingly. i didn’t see it. But in this new and backwards world we’re in, if there was an angle, it wouldn’t surprise me if in the eyes of the fanbase, antifa would be the babyfaces and the people waving the American flag in opposition are considered the heels. As much as I despise Vince macmahon and his company, at least he is still sane when it comes to these issues. Anti-fascists are bad guys? Now that's news to me. And to the rest of the world. Fascists have always been the bad guys.
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Post by Jayman on Aug 19, 2020 17:36:47 GMT
i didn’t see it. But in this new and backwards world we’re in, if there was an angle, it wouldn’t surprise me if in the eyes of the fanbase, antifa would be the babyfaces and the people waving the American flag in opposition are considered the heels. As much as I despise Vince macmahon and his company, at least he is still sane when it comes to these issues. Anti-fascists are bad guys? Now that's news to me. And to the rest of the world. Fascists have always been the bad guys. So you defend antifa and they are the good guys.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 19, 2020 20:50:55 GMT
Anti-fascists are bad guys? Now that's news to me. And to the rest of the world. Fascists have always been the bad guys. So you defend antifa and they are the good guys. Yes, well, I'm sure to you, the Rebels and Jedi are the bad guys, and the Empire is just patriotic. But I can assure you, they're not.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 19, 2020 21:25:26 GMT
So you defend antifa and they are the good guys. Yes, well, I'm sure to you, the Rebels and Jedi are the bad guys, and the Empire is just patriotic. But I can assure you, they're not. Please tell me you are being sarcastic. ANTIFA are not the good guys - they cause domestic disturbances, burn down buildings, break windows, destroy public and private property, blow up cars, yell profanity laced insults till their blue in the face and lose their voice, and beat innocent people up to where they need to be hospitalized. And no, just because they say they're 'anti-facist' doesn't make them angels from the sky, if you know your history there have been quite a few individuals and groups of people who think they were doing something good but were really damaging their own cause and were seen in time as being evil.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 19, 2020 22:27:10 GMT
Yes, well, I'm sure to you, the Rebels and Jedi are the bad guys, and the Empire is just patriotic. But I can assure you, they're not. Please tell me you are being sarcastic. ANTIFA are not the good guys - they cause domestic disturbances, burn down buildings, break windows, destroy public and private property, blow up cars, yell profanity laced insults till their blue in the face and lose their voice, and beat innocent people up to where they need to be hospitalized. And no, just because they say they're 'anti-facist' doesn't make them angels from the sky, if you know your history there have been quite a few individuals and groups of people who think they were doing something good but were really damaging their own cause and were seen in time as being evil. Not sarcastic at all. The Rebels really were the good guys, and the fascist empire were the bad guys. And let's not confuse angels with good guys. No one made that claim. Probably not a good time to mention all the violence the Founding Fathers perpetrated during the American Revolution. Not to mention all the domestic disturbances caused by Dr. King and civil rights movement. But we can definitely talk about all the violence cops have perpetrated on black communities over the decades and how the US government continues to screw with anyone who isn't straight, white, cis, male. PS: yelling profanities? Sorry, but that doesn't matter unless you're in church. Don't worry about that one.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 20, 2020 0:01:05 GMT
Please tell me you are being sarcastic. ANTIFA are not the good guys - they cause domestic disturbances, burn down buildings, break windows, destroy public and private property, blow up cars, yell profanity laced insults till their blue in the face and lose their voice, and beat innocent people up to where they need to be hospitalized. And no, just because they say they're 'anti-facist' doesn't make them angels from the sky, if you know your history there have been quite a few individuals and groups of people who think they were doing something good but were really damaging their own cause and were seen in time as being evil. Not sarcastic at all. The Rebels really were the good guys, and the fascist empire were the bad guys. And let's not confuse angels with good guys. No one made that claim. Probably not a good time to mention all the violence the Founding Fathers perpetrated during the American Revolution. Not to mention all the domestic disturbances caused by Dr. King and civil rights movement. But we can definitely talk about all the violence cops have perpetrated on black communities over the decades and how the US government continues to screw with anyone who isn't straight, white, cis, male. PS: yelling profanities? Sorry, but that doesn't matter unless you're in church. Don't worry about that one. If you're not being sarcastic then you have my pity and I feel bad for you. My respect is also close to gone. Your comparison of ANTIFA with the Rebels and the Jedi from Star Wars makes me laugh, cry, and feel sick to my stomach all at once. I am sorry but you would have to be a special kind of ignorant and mentally not all up there to think it is perfectly valid and even more so to see nothing wrong with how ANTIFA do their business. And comparing ANTIFA to the Founding Fathers during the American Revolution, to Dr. King, to the Civil Rights movement...Wow. That is so disrespectful, on so many levels. You should be ashamed of yourself, and ask God for forgiveness. Angels and good guys being comparable - why is that a wrong comparison? Angels are supposed to be good. That's the consensus. What is a good guy? Well, they're good. So what's the big deal? Are you getting enough sleep or skipped a meal or two? What are you talking about? ANTIFA doesn't care about the lives of African-Americans or whoever the government screws over as long as it gives them reason to harass and disturb the peace. ANTIFA hijacked the protests demanding justice for George Floyd and used it to justify their anarchy. Many of those who were peacefully protesting were disturbed by ANTIFA's actions and have said that they wish not to be associated with them and are sick that they stole their movement for their twisted game. Also, several of the people who were injured, lost their homes, lost their businesses, and even their lives were NOT white, cis, or male. Hmmm, nope. I will definitely worry about a group of thugs yelling at my face and threatening my life. Don't think this conversation is going to have a winner bro, you pretty much admitted defeat in my other thread. Let me take a wild guess - Are you one of those people who thinks Gina Carano should be fired from The Mandalorian? Wouldn't surprise me. Tell me would it surprise you to know that Adam Baldwin thinks ANTIFA are trash as well?
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Post by Jayman on Aug 20, 2020 0:21:19 GMT
Oh boy. I guess I was naive to think nobody would defend antifa here.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 24, 2020 14:03:15 GMT
Not sarcastic at all. The Rebels really were the good guys, and the fascist empire were the bad guys. And let's not confuse angels with good guys. No one made that claim. Probably not a good time to mention all the violence the Founding Fathers perpetrated during the American Revolution. Not to mention all the domestic disturbances caused by Dr. King and civil rights movement. But we can definitely talk about all the violence cops have perpetrated on black communities over the decades and how the US government continues to screw with anyone who isn't straight, white, cis, male. PS: yelling profanities? Sorry, but that doesn't matter unless you're in church. Don't worry about that one. If you're not being sarcastic then you have my pity and I feel bad for you. My respect is also close to gone. Your comparison of ANTIFA with the Rebels and the Jedi from Star Wars makes me laugh, cry, and feel sick to my stomach all at once. I am sorry but you would have to be a special kind of ignorant and mentally not all up there to think it is perfectly valid and even more so to see nothing wrong with how ANTIFA do their business. And comparing ANTIFA to the Founding Fathers during the American Revolution, to Dr. King, to the Civil Rights movement...Wow. That is so disrespectful, on so many levels. You should be ashamed of yourself, and ask God for forgiveness. Angels and good guys being comparable - why is that a wrong comparison? Angels are supposed to be good. That's the consensus. What is a good guy? Well, they're good. So what's the big deal? Are you getting enough sleep or skipped a meal or two? What are you talking about? ANTIFA doesn't care about the lives of African-Americans or whoever the government screws over as long as it gives them reason to harass and disturb the peace. ANTIFA hijacked the protests demanding justice for George Floyd and used it to justify their anarchy. Many of those who were peacefully protesting were disturbed by ANTIFA's actions and have said that they wish not to be associated with them and are sick that they stole their movement for their twisted game. Also, several of the people who were injured, lost their homes, lost their businesses, and even their lives were NOT white, cis, or male. Hmmm, nope. I will definitely worry about a group of thugs yelling at my face and threatening my life. Don't think this conversation is going to have a winner bro, you pretty much admitted defeat in my other thread. Let me take a wild guess - Are you one of those people who thinks Gina Carano should be fired from The Mandalorian? Wouldn't surprise me. Tell me would it surprise you to know that Adam Baldwin thinks ANTIFA are trash as well? The feeling is so mutual when it comes to respect. They're actually very good comparisons whether you like them or not. I'm sorry if facts sicken you, but that's your issue to deal with. I'd recommend Pepto Bismal. Being good doesn't mean you're an angel. All good people have their flaws. If they didn't, why, they wouldn't be people. They'd all be angels. Also, angels can be on the side of good, that doesn't mean they're perfectly nice. There was that Angel of Death going around killing the first born children of an entire city. Heck, even Lucifer was angel, so angel = good guy isn't all that true. Whoever told you that lied to you. And please don't lie. No group has ever yelled in your face or threatened your life. I don't watch the Mandalorian, so it doesn't matter to me who works on it. Also, I don't know Adam Baldwin, so it doesn't matter to me what he thinks of Antifa either. Man, you're 0 for 2 in guessing. Don't quit your day job. Unless it involves guessing. Then you should really consider a new line of work.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 25, 2020 1:50:07 GMT
If you're not being sarcastic then you have my pity and I feel bad for you. My respect is also close to gone. Your comparison of ANTIFA with the Rebels and the Jedi from Star Wars makes me laugh, cry, and feel sick to my stomach all at once. I am sorry but you would have to be a special kind of ignorant and mentally not all up there to think it is perfectly valid and even more so to see nothing wrong with how ANTIFA do their business. And comparing ANTIFA to the Founding Fathers during the American Revolution, to Dr. King, to the Civil Rights movement...Wow. That is so disrespectful, on so many levels. You should be ashamed of yourself, and ask God for forgiveness. Angels and good guys being comparable - why is that a wrong comparison? Angels are supposed to be good. That's the consensus. What is a good guy? Well, they're good. So what's the big deal? Are you getting enough sleep or skipped a meal or two? What are you talking about? ANTIFA doesn't care about the lives of African-Americans or whoever the government screws over as long as it gives them reason to harass and disturb the peace. ANTIFA hijacked the protests demanding justice for George Floyd and used it to justify their anarchy. Many of those who were peacefully protesting were disturbed by ANTIFA's actions and have said that they wish not to be associated with them and are sick that they stole their movement for their twisted game. Also, several of the people who were injured, lost their homes, lost their businesses, and even their lives were NOT white, cis, or male. Hmmm, nope. I will definitely worry about a group of thugs yelling at my face and threatening my life. Don't think this conversation is going to have a winner bro, you pretty much admitted defeat in my other thread. Let me take a wild guess - Are you one of those people who thinks Gina Carano should be fired from The Mandalorian? Wouldn't surprise me. Tell me would it surprise you to know that Adam Baldwin thinks ANTIFA are trash as well? The feeling is so mutual when it comes to respect. They're actually very good comparisons whether you like them or not. I'm sorry if facts sicken you, but that's your issue to deal with. I'd recommend Pepto Bismal. Being good doesn't mean you're an angel. All good people have their flaws. If they didn't, why, they wouldn't be people. They'd all be angels. Also, angels can be on the side of good, that doesn't mean they're perfectly nice. There was that Angel of Death going around killing the first born children of an entire city. Heck, even Lucifer was angel, so angel = good guy isn't all that true. Whoever told you that lied to you. And please don't lie. No group has ever yelled in your face or threatened your life. I don't watch the Mandalorian, so it doesn't matter to me who works on it. Also, I don't know Adam Baldwin, so it doesn't matter to me what he thinks of Antifa either. Man, you're 0 for 2 in guessing. Don't quit your day job. Unless it involves guessing. Then you should really consider a new line of work. But it is not a fact, it is your opinion. You know what isn't an opinion though? Businesses, homes, vehicles and other items of ndiviual and public importance being broken into, destroyed, and burnt to the ground, and innocent people being beaten up and injured...Which is what ANTIFA have done on multiple occasions. So what you're getting at is that ANTIFA as a whole is a very flawed group with very flawed ways of doing business...OK. That doesn't really help your defense at all but ok. Actually I live in Minnesota and not too far away from where they hijacked the protests and began tearing the city apart. It was pretty scary for the friends and family who live up where it was all going down. Pretty much everybody in my county had to strengthen house security measures and was encouraged by local politicians and law enforcement not to leave town or be out and about after dark. I've never been yelled at or threatened by a group of people like what I described ANTIFA does, nor did I ever claim it happened to me either - But I do know it's happened to many people and evidence of such isn't hard to find at all. I brought up The Mandalorian because you referenced Star Wars and it's a very popular entry in the property, and Gina Carano was recently in hot water online for not 'being on the right side of history', as they say. Not rallying behind groups like ANTIFA and declaring orange man bad like a lot of 'woke' entertainment industry professionals say they are and try to present themselves as. She pretty much ranted against what you like to preach and many demanded she change her mind(bend the knee) or be fired but she stood her ground. I brought up Adam Baldwin because you're a fan of Firefly and Baldwin has thrown criticism and disgust at ANTIFA on numerous occasions on their social media. If you don't care what he thinks why do you care about what me and Jay think?
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Post by Jayman on Aug 25, 2020 18:20:44 GMT
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 26, 2020 13:28:38 GMT
The feeling is so mutual when it comes to respect. They're actually very good comparisons whether you like them or not. I'm sorry if facts sicken you, but that's your issue to deal with. I'd recommend Pepto Bismal. Being good doesn't mean you're an angel. All good people have their flaws. If they didn't, why, they wouldn't be people. They'd all be angels. Also, angels can be on the side of good, that doesn't mean they're perfectly nice. There was that Angel of Death going around killing the first born children of an entire city. Heck, even Lucifer was angel, so angel = good guy isn't all that true. Whoever told you that lied to you. And please don't lie. No group has ever yelled in your face or threatened your life. I don't watch the Mandalorian, so it doesn't matter to me who works on it. Also, I don't know Adam Baldwin, so it doesn't matter to me what he thinks of Antifa either. Man, you're 0 for 2 in guessing. Don't quit your day job. Unless it involves guessing. Then you should really consider a new line of work. But it is not a fact, it is your opinion. You know what isn't an opinion though? Businesses, homes, vehicles and other items of ndiviual and public importance being broken into, destroyed, and burnt to the ground, and innocent people being beaten up and injured...Which is what ANTIFA have done on multiple occasions. So what you're getting at is that ANTIFA as a whole is a very flawed group with very flawed ways of doing business...OK. That doesn't really help your defense at all but ok. Actually I live in Minnesota and not too far away from where they hijacked the protests and began tearing the city apart. It was pretty scary for the friends and family who live up where it was all going down. Pretty much everybody in my county had to strengthen house security measures and was encouraged by local politicians and law enforcement not to leave town or be out and about after dark. I've never been yelled at or threatened by a group of people like what I described ANTIFA does, nor did I ever claim it happened to me either - But I do know it's happened to many people and evidence of such isn't hard to find at all. I brought up The Mandalorian because you referenced Star Wars and it's a very popular entry in the property, and Gina Carano was recently in hot water online for not 'being on the right side of history', as they say. Not rallying behind groups like ANTIFA and declaring orange man bad like a lot of 'woke' entertainment industry professionals say they are and try to present themselves as. She pretty much ranted against what you like to preach and many demanded she change her mind(bend the knee) or be fired but she stood her ground. I brought up Adam Baldwin because you're a fan of Firefly and Baldwin has thrown criticism and disgust at ANTIFA on numerous occasions on their social media. If you don't care what he thinks why do you care about what me and Jay think? It's actually not my opinion that the rebels were the good guys and the Empire was the bad guys. That's the movie. That's a fact. What's also a fact is police shooting and attacking unarmed, peaceful protesters. Which is what they've done on multiple occassions. What I'm saying is only you believe in angels. No one else was making that argument. That doesn't help your defense at all either. I know friends and family who've been harassed by police. And evidence of that isn't hard to find at all either. And if no one is yelling or threatening you, why'd you write: Baldwin's rants don't pop up on a wrestling forum I visit; that's why he doesn't matter. But if he did, I'd correct him as well. In any case, please don't confuse being a fan of someone with actually caring what they say about anything. I'm a fan of a show he was on. Doesn't mean his comments about antifa matter in the least.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 26, 2020 20:35:38 GMT
But it is not a fact, it is your opinion. You know what isn't an opinion though? Businesses, homes, vehicles and other items of ndiviual and public importance being broken into, destroyed, and burnt to the ground, and innocent people being beaten up and injured...Which is what ANTIFA have done on multiple occasions. So what you're getting at is that ANTIFA as a whole is a very flawed group with very flawed ways of doing business...OK. That doesn't really help your defense at all but ok. Actually I live in Minnesota and not too far away from where they hijacked the protests and began tearing the city apart. It was pretty scary for the friends and family who live up where it was all going down. Pretty much everybody in my county had to strengthen house security measures and was encouraged by local politicians and law enforcement not to leave town or be out and about after dark. I've never been yelled at or threatened by a group of people like what I described ANTIFA does, nor did I ever claim it happened to me either - But I do know it's happened to many people and evidence of such isn't hard to find at all. I brought up The Mandalorian because you referenced Star Wars and it's a very popular entry in the property, and Gina Carano was recently in hot water online for not 'being on the right side of history', as they say. Not rallying behind groups like ANTIFA and declaring orange man bad like a lot of 'woke' entertainment industry professionals say they are and try to present themselves as. She pretty much ranted against what you like to preach and many demanded she change her mind(bend the knee) or be fired but she stood her ground. I brought up Adam Baldwin because you're a fan of Firefly and Baldwin has thrown criticism and disgust at ANTIFA on numerous occasions on their social media. If you don't care what he thinks why do you care about what me and Jay think? It's actually not my opinion that the rebels were the good guys and the Empire was the bad guys. That's the movie. That's a fact. What's also a fact is police shooting and attacking unarmed, peaceful protesters. Which is what they've done on multiple occassions. What I'm saying is only you believe in angels. No one else was making that argument. That doesn't help your defense at all either. I know friends and family who've been harassed by police. And evidence of that isn't hard to find at all either. And if no one is yelling or threatening you, why'd you write: Baldwin's rants don't pop up on a wrestling forum I visit; that's why he doesn't matter. But if he did, I'd correct him as well. In any case, please don't confuse being a fan of someone with actually caring what they say about anything. I'm a fan of a show he was on. Doesn't mean his comments about antifa matter in the least. The Rebels are the good guys in Star Wars, that is indeed a fact. ANTIFA being comparable to the Rebels? That is not a fact, that is an opinion. And a very questionable one at that that will not fly well with very many people, especially to those who have suffered at the hand of the movement. That is true, not everyone wearing a badge is actually a good person who knows not to abuse their power however ANTIFA are not peaceful, they riot, loot, and destroy. ANTIFA hijacked the protests over abuse of power and turned the movement and its cause into a destructive force of nature and hurt the lives of many people - quite a few of which are not Caucasian or have any sort of privilege. Their actions have also led to the deaths of people who were otherwise good and respected in their communities such as David Dorn. Only I believe in angels? When did this turn to a debate on religious beliefs? Why was this even argued at all I ask you? My point was clear, ANTIFA are not worth supporting or is a group to be applauded, and I have the every right to have that opinion just as you have your own on them. Honestly, this section of this discussion feels like an attempt by you to reach to make me look dumb or whatever and you absolutely smart and better informed. Okay, that's bad and I feel sorry for your friends and family but that doesn't make every police officer bad and that doesn't excuse ANTIFA for the damage they have done to so many lives. I wrote that because if the situation had happened to me I would not be quiet or feel nothing from the encounter, genius. Adam Baldwin and their opinions on ANTIFA have as much relevance in this discussion as your unnecessary dissection of my generalization of angels which is a fairly common one held by quite a large sum of the world's general population. And the question is a legitimate one - if Baldwin's opinions on ANTIFA don't matter to you, why do mine and Jay's matter to you then? Also, feel free to 'correct' Mr. Baldwin on ANTIFA all you'd like to on Twitter as he is quite active on there.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 26, 2020 22:49:52 GMT
It'll fly very well with anyone abused by the system. Of which there are far more than have ever been inconvenienced by antifa.
Just like the fascist police. And trust me: being Caucasian is a privilege in america.
You were under the belief that good guys must all be angels. That's just not true at all.
By that logic, the same applies to Antifa. They're not all bad.
Just like the police and corrupt system.
So you brought up something that never happened. Weird.
That was answered.
Why would I go somewhere that I'm not active on?
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Aug 27, 2020 6:29:10 GMT
It'll fly very well with anyone abused by the system. Of which there are far more than have ever been inconvenienced by antifa. Just like the fascist police. And trust me: being Caucasian is a privilege in america. You were under the belief that good guys must all be angels. That's just not true at all. By that logic, the same applies to Antifa. They're not all bad. Just like the police and corrupt system. So you brought up something that never happened. Weird. That was answered. Why would I go somewhere that I'm not active on? No, there are people who have felt abused by the system who do not agree with ANTIFA and their methodology. Wow, you're an idiot, and a disgusting person at that. You're going to give ANTIFA a pass when they harm the lives of people like David Dorn because there are some police officers who proved to be wolfs wearing sheep's clothing? David Dorn, in case you were wondering, was not only a police officer himself but also AFRICAN-AMERICAN and was well liked by friends and family and community. And I never denied there wasn't such a thing as Caucasian privilege you moron. The majority of police officers are good people risking their lives day in and out to save people and stop crimes from taking place, the majority if not all of ANTIFA are mentally ill thugs who take their message too damn far and harm the lives of others and their property, that's why they've been categorized as a terrorist group. And? So what? Why is that a problem? The best a good person can be means they are most likely to become an angel in the next stage of their existence, its a commonly perceived concept. Again, it seemed like you just were looking to try and come off as clever and too knowledgeable to even try to argue with, and it backfired. Let it go. So basically your argument is because there is a minority of police officers who have abused their power and ruined the lives of the arrested, innocent or guilty, that excuses whatever an organization like ANTIFA does, i.e. looting, burning down buildings, blowing up cars, tearing down statues, and endangering lives. A grenade is thrown so drop a nuke from the sky, right? Wow. You disgusting dolt I said that in response to you telling me to not worry about being yelled and threatened by a group like ANTIFA in my regular day life. Not really. You did not answer why it seems to be me and Jay's stance on ANTIFA that breaks the camels' back for you when you claim to not care if someone along the lines of an Adam Baldwin, who was in one of your favorite TV shows, expresses a similar standpoint. Because you think you're better informed on ANTIFA and believe Adam Baldwin is misinformed I was pointing out that you can reach out to him or respond to him on that particular platform where is quite active on.
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Post by Power Ranger on Aug 29, 2020 15:07:18 GMT
Trump should return to the ring to kick their asses.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Sept 5, 2020 17:57:36 GMT
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Post by PreachCaleb on Sept 7, 2020 13:04:28 GMT
Nah, it's more like me = 100 and you = -7
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