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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 6, 2020 21:44:29 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-claims-biden-a-devout-catholic-wants-to-hurt-god/vi-BB17ERnf?ocid=msedgdhpHe just keeps spouting more and more insane stuff. Do Evangelicals not recognize Catholics as Christian? Do Evangelicals think Trump is an Evangelical? Y'know, the whole "flawed sinner that can be forgiven and be saved" thing, even though that person (Trump) isn't attending regular services of any kind? I wanna see Trump follow his speech with action; attend an Evangelical church, "go forward" and accept Christ as his Savior, get baptized, and "go forward and sin no more." Actually, it's too bad there aren't any Billy Graham Crusades going on right now; all the TV coverage one could ask for. Is he "washed in the blood of the Lamb?" That's what people in the church I grew up in actually asked visitors.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Aug 7, 2020 7:04:01 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-claims-biden-a-devout-catholic-wants-to-hurt-god/vi-BB17ERnf?ocid=msedgdhpHe just keeps spouting more and more insane stuff. Do Evangelicals not recognize Catholics as Christian? Do Evangelicals think Trump is an Evangelical? Y'know, the whole "flawed sinner that can be forgiven and be saved" thing, even though that person (Trump) isn't attending regular services of any kind? I wanna see Trump follow his speech with action; attend an Evangelical church, "go forward" and accept Christ as his Savior, get baptized, and "go forward and sin no more." Actually, it's too bad there aren't any Billy Graham Crusades going on right now; all the TV coverage one could ask for. Is he "washed in the blood of the Lamb?" That's what people in the church I grew up in actually asked visitors. These Evangelicals don’t even recognize Christianity as a legitimate religion.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 7, 2020 8:19:32 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-claims-biden-a-devout-catholic-wants-to-hurt-god/vi-BB17ERnf?ocid=msedgdhpHe just keeps spouting more and more insane stuff. Do Evangelicals not recognize Catholics as Christian? Do Evangelicals think Trump is an Evangelical? Y'know, the whole "flawed sinner that can be forgiven and be saved" thing, even though that person (Trump) isn't attending regular services of any kind? I wanna see Trump follow his speech with action; attend an Evangelical church, "go forward" and accept Christ as his Savior, get baptized, and "go forward and sin no more." Actually, it's too bad there aren't any Billy Graham Crusades going on right now; all the TV coverage one could ask for. Is he "washed in the blood of the Lamb?" That's what people in the church I grew up in actually asked visitors. I thought you didn't like devout Catholics.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 7, 2020 15:02:18 GMT
God: He knows who I am right?
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 7, 2020 16:33:41 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-claims-biden-a-devout-catholic-wants-to-hurt-god/vi-BB17ERnf?ocid=msedgdhpHe just keeps spouting more and more insane stuff. Do Evangelicals not recognize Catholics as Christian? Do Evangelicals think Trump is an Evangelical? Y'know, the whole "flawed sinner that can be forgiven and be saved" thing, even though that person (Trump) isn't attending regular services of any kind? I wanna see Trump follow his speech with action; attend an Evangelical church, "go forward" and accept Christ as his Savior, get baptized, and "go forward and sin no more." Actually, it's too bad there aren't any Billy Graham Crusades going on right now; all the TV coverage one could ask for. Is he "washed in the blood of the Lamb?" That's what people in the church I grew up in actually asked visitors. I thought you didn't like devout Catholics. I don't 'like' Evangelicals, either - clearly, here, I was playing 'devil's advocate'. I was calling Trump out on his hypocrisy. Though I am an agnostic atheist, this is still America, where the freedom to practice your chosen religion is still in the Constitution, as long as practicing your chosen religion doesn't break any of our secular laws. Proselytizing negatively affects my right to my beliefs. If everyone would simply "live and let live", there wouldn't be a problem. One of my best friends is "spiritual" in a completely unique way, and her husband is an old-style Southern Baptist. They manage to stay married despite their different belief systems, and they are good, decent people who would help anyone in need. But they never try to change my thinking, and I never try to change theirs. Believe and let believe... or not believe at all. My point here was that Trump is lying to the Evangelicals; he is not what they think he is. And, the Separation of Church and State is still built into the Constitution. THAT is what the President is supposed to uphold.
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Post by amyghost on Aug 7, 2020 17:07:55 GMT
Well, I have no doubt that Trump makes God's brain hurt...
That Trump ever had the sheer, unadulterated gall to try and pass himself off as believing and practicing Christian to the hairy masses either demonstrates that the masses are even hairier than I feared in accepting this, or that there is definitely no god, as even the most patient and forgiving of deities would have blasted Trump into a pile of radioactive embers for using His gig to peddle hubris that enormous.
Of course, there's no particular reason that both of these theories can't be simultaneously correct.
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Post by amyghost on Aug 7, 2020 17:22:10 GMT
God: He knows who I am right? Up til now I suspect Agent Orange thought God was one of his employees...
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 7, 2020 17:24:07 GMT
Well, I have no doubt that Trump makes God's brain hurt... That Trump ever had the sheer, unadulterated gall to try and pass himself off as believing and practicing Christian to the hairy masses either demonstrates that the masses are even hairier than I feared in accepting this, or that there is definitely no god, as even the most patient and forgiving of deities would have blasted Trump into a pile of radioactive embers for using His gig to peddle hubris that enormous. Of course, there's no particular reason that both of these theories can't be simultaneously correct. I was SO disappointed when God's aim was off recently...  www.bing.com/videos/search?q=lightning+strikes+washington+monument&docid=608045499433419053&mid=E9F7F67D37BC4D02FE80E9F7F67D37BC4D02FE80&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
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Post by Catman 猫的主人 on Aug 7, 2020 17:30:36 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 7, 2020 18:17:12 GMT
I thought you didn't like devout Catholics. I don't 'like' Evangelicals, either - clearly, here, I was playing 'devil's advocate'. I was calling Trump out on his hypocrisy. Though I am an agnostic atheist, this is still America, where the freedom to practice your chosen religion is still in the Constitution, as long as practicing your chosen religion doesn't break any of our secular laws. Proselytizing negatively affects my right to my beliefs. If everyone would simply "live and let live", there wouldn't be a problem. One of my best friends is "spiritual" in a completely unique way, and her husband is an old-style Southern Baptist. They manage to stay married despite their different belief systems, and they are good, decent people who would help anyone in need. But they never try to change my thinking, and I never try to change theirs. Believe and let believe... or not believe at all. My point here was that Trump is lying to the Evangelicals; he is not what they think he is. And, the Separation of Church and State is still built into the Constitution. THAT is what the President is supposed to uphold. Okay. When Evangelicals want to be lied to, and someone comes along telling them the lies they want to hear, nothing much can be done about it.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 7, 2020 18:34:00 GMT
I don't 'like' Evangelicals, either - clearly, here, I was playing 'devil's advocate'. I was calling Trump out on his hypocrisy. Though I am an agnostic atheist, this is still America, where the freedom to practice your chosen religion is still in the Constitution, as long as practicing your chosen religion doesn't break any of our secular laws. Proselytizing negatively affects my right to my beliefs. If everyone would simply "live and let live", there wouldn't be a problem. One of my best friends is "spiritual" in a completely unique way, and her husband is an old-style Southern Baptist. They manage to stay married despite their different belief systems, and they are good, decent people who would help anyone in need. But they never try to change my thinking, and I never try to change theirs. Believe and let believe... or not believe at all. My point here was that Trump is lying to the Evangelicals; he is not what they think he is. And, the Separation of Church and State is still built into the Constitution. THAT is what the President is supposed to uphold. Okay. When Evangelicals want to be lied to, and someone comes along telling them the lies they want to hear, nothing much can be done about it. Those lies can be exposed as such. And if the Evangelicals "deep-seated need to believe" outweighs the facts, they've pounded another nail into the coffin of a democratic republic. The President is supposed to uphold The Constitution, regardless of his own personal beliefs, and in this case, his own self-serving and bad behavior. Bye-bye, I have better things to do than trade punches with the likes of you. 
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 7, 2020 18:45:47 GMT
Okay. When Evangelicals want to be lied to, and someone comes along telling them the lies they want to hear, nothing much can be done about it. Those lies can be exposed as such. And if the Evangelicals "deep-seated need to believe" outweighs the facts, they've pounded another nail into the coffin of a democratic republic. The President is supposed to uphold The Constitution, regardless of his own personal beliefs, and in this case, his own self-serving and bad behavior. Bye-bye, I have better things to do than trade punches with the likes of you. Okay, but I didn't look at as trading punches. I thought we were having a discussion. Bye.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 7, 2020 18:51:29 GMT
Those lies can be exposed as such. And if the Evangelicals "deep-seated need to believe" outweighs the facts, they've pounded another nail into the coffin of a democratic republic. The President is supposed to uphold The Constitution, regardless of his own personal beliefs, and in this case, his own self-serving and bad behavior. Bye-bye, I have better things to do than trade punches with the likes of you. Okay, but I didn't look at as trading punches. I thought we were having a discussion. Bye. I've made my point clear repeatedly, no need to keep going over it.
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Aug 7, 2020 19:55:19 GMT
I thought you didn't like devout Catholics. I don't 'like' Evangelicals, either - clearly, here, I was playing 'devil's advocate'. I was calling Trump out on his hypocrisy. Though I am an agnostic atheist, this is still America, where the freedom to practice your chosen religion is still in the Constitution, as long as practicing your chosen religion doesn't break any of our secular laws. Proselytizing negatively affects my right to my beliefs. If everyone would simply "live and let live", there wouldn't be a problem. One of my best friends is "spiritual" in a completely unique way, and her husband is an old-style Southern Baptist. They manage to stay married despite their different belief systems, and they are good, decent people who would help anyone in need. But they never try to change my thinking, and I never try to change theirs. Believe and let believe... or not believe at all. My point here was that Trump is lying to the Evangelicals; he is not what they think he is. And, the Separation of Church and State is still built into the Constitution. THAT is what the President is supposed to uphold. I can tolerate fundamentalist Christians and Muslims (who have more in common than either will admit), until they use their religion as a political weapon in enforce their fucked up version of morality as the law of the land.
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Post by goz on Aug 7, 2020 22:23:39 GMT
I don't 'like' Evangelicals, either - clearly, here, I was playing 'devil's advocate'. I was calling Trump out on his hypocrisy. Though I am an agnostic atheist, this is still America, where the freedom to practice your chosen religion is still in the Constitution, as long as practicing your chosen religion doesn't break any of our secular laws. Proselytizing negatively affects my right to my beliefs. If everyone would simply "live and let live", there wouldn't be a problem. One of my best friends is "spiritual" in a completely unique way, and her husband is an old-style Southern Baptist. They manage to stay married despite their different belief systems, and they are good, decent people who would help anyone in need. But they never try to change my thinking, and I never try to change theirs. Believe and let believe... or not believe at all. My point here was that Trump is lying to the Evangelicals; he is not what they think he is. And, the Separation of Church and State is still built into the Constitution. THAT is what the President is supposed to uphold. I can tolerate fundamentalist Christians and Muslims (who have more in common than either will admit), until they use their religion as a political weapon in enforce their fucked up version of morality as the law of the land. I can't, either way!
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Post by rizdek on Aug 7, 2020 22:44:26 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-claims-biden-a-devout-catholic-wants-to-hurt-god/vi-BB17ERnf?ocid=msedgdhpHe just keeps spouting more and more insane stuff. Do Evangelicals not recognize Catholics as Christian? Do Evangelicals think Trump is an Evangelical? Y'know, the whole "flawed sinner that can be forgiven and be saved" thing, even though that person (Trump) isn't attending regular services of any kind? I wanna see Trump follow his speech with action; attend an Evangelical church, "go forward" and accept Christ as his Savior, get baptized, and "go forward and sin no more." Actually, it's too bad there aren't any Billy Graham Crusades going on right now; all the TV coverage one could ask for. Is he "washed in the blood of the Lamb?" That's what people in the church I grew up in actually asked visitors. If SNL did a skit, using THOSE WORDS EXACTLY, we would have Trump fans here whining that SNL is harder on Trump and tried to make him look stupider than aaaaannnnnnnyyyyyyyy other president. boo hoo.  It's like they don't get that Trump just does dumb things.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Aug 8, 2020 8:23:40 GMT
How can you hurt something that don`t exist ?
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Post by Dirty Santa PaulsLaugh on Aug 8, 2020 9:06:32 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-claims-biden-a-devout-catholic-wants-to-hurt-god/vi-BB17ERnf?ocid=msedgdhpHe just keeps spouting more and more insane stuff. Do Evangelicals not recognize Catholics as Christian? Do Evangelicals think Trump is an Evangelical? Y'know, the whole "flawed sinner that can be forgiven and be saved" thing, even though that person (Trump) isn't attending regular services of any kind? I wanna see Trump follow his speech with action; attend an Evangelical church, "go forward" and accept Christ as his Savior, get baptized, and "go forward and sin no more." Actually, it's too bad there aren't any Billy Graham Crusades going on right now; all the TV coverage one could ask for. Is he "washed in the blood of the Lamb?" That's what people in the church I grew up in actually asked visitors. If SNL did a skit, using THOSE WORDS EXACTLY, we would have Trump fans here whining that SNL is harder on Trump and tried to make him look stupider than aaaaannnnnnnyyyyyyyy other president. boo hoo. It's like they don't get that Trump just does dumb things. I'm starting to think Trumpism is a form of autism as they have few innate skills to help them reckon with reality.
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 8, 2020 10:32:15 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-claims-biden-a-devout-catholic-wants-to-hurt-god/vi-BB17ERnf?ocid=msedgdhpHe just keeps spouting more and more insane stuff. Do Evangelicals not recognize Catholics as Christian? Do Evangelicals think Trump is an Evangelical? Y'know, the whole "flawed sinner that can be forgiven and be saved" thing, even though that person (Trump) isn't attending regular services of any kind? I wanna see Trump follow his speech with action; attend an Evangelical church, "go forward" and accept Christ as his Savior, get baptized, and "go forward and sin no more." Actually, it's too bad there aren't any Billy Graham Crusades going on right now; all the TV coverage one could ask for. Is he "washed in the blood of the Lamb?" That's what people in the church I grew up in actually asked visitors. Trump is a big time liar. He doesn't believe in god and is just trying to get attention from his stupid Christian vote bank.
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Post by rizdek on Aug 8, 2020 10:45:29 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-claims-biden-a-devout-catholic-wants-to-hurt-god/vi-BB17ERnf?ocid=msedgdhpHe just keeps spouting more and more insane stuff. Do Evangelicals not recognize Catholics as Christian? Do Evangelicals think Trump is an Evangelical? Y'know, the whole "flawed sinner that can be forgiven and be saved" thing, even though that person (Trump) isn't attending regular services of any kind? I wanna see Trump follow his speech with action; attend an Evangelical church, "go forward" and accept Christ as his Savior, get baptized, and "go forward and sin no more." Actually, it's too bad there aren't any Billy Graham Crusades going on right now; all the TV coverage one could ask for. Is he "washed in the blood of the Lamb?" That's what people in the church I grew up in actually asked visitors. Trump is a big time liar. He doesn't believe in god and is just trying to get attention from his stupid Christian vote bank. I believe that sometime in the future, it's going to come out that Trump is and was an atheist. So, it will have been that, with Trump, the US may have elected their FIRST atheist president.
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