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Post by millar70 on Aug 12, 2020 21:51:40 GMT
What are you saying, they all look alike? Take it easy there, dude. 😉 i thought laguerta was hot.
love black women.
love indian women too.
but indian women hate me.
I've been with 3 different black women, and let me tell ya, those were some WILD rides! As Mick Jagger once sang, "Black girls like to fuck all night long, but I just don't have enough jam". I've never been with an Indian girl, so can't say much about that. Now if you've never been with an Asian girl, trust me, you haven't lived. Very sensual stuff. |
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Post by millar70 on Aug 12, 2020 21:53:12 GMT
I'll consider you an independent thinker when I see you say something complimentary about both sides. And whatever you think about the debates doesn't really have anything to do with what I'm saying about how Trump will destroy Biden in a debate. Just because you choose not to watch or care doesn't mean that lessens the importance of what will happen on the debate stage. All I'm saying is that these debates will be hugely important and Biden's performance against a guy like Trump will go a long way towards how many currently undecided voters will go. And that's the truth, regardless of how you personally feel about it. Jesus, stop making everything about you, dude.I said I wasn't going to watch the debates and you acted as if I questioned their importance. You misunderstood my commentary, and now that I pointed out your mistake, you're shifting your argument to, "Well your opinion doesn't matter in this discussion. This is about everyone else!" Should I try to speak for others next time, or just continue to express my personal opinion?
Ha. "I'll consider you an independent thinker when you say something I agree with."
How long are you willing to literally argue nothing?
Calm down. Trump supporters are going to get more and more psychotic as we get closer to the election.
So how do you think Biden will do in the debates against Trump? |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 12, 2020 21:56:22 GMT
i thought laguerta was hot.
love black women.
love indian women too.
but indian women hate me.
I've been with 3 different black women, and let me tell ya, those were some WILD rides! As Mick Jagger once sang, "Black girls like to fuck all night long, but I just don't have enough jam". I've never been with an Indian girl, so can't say much about that. Now if you've never been with an Asian girl, trust me, you haven't lived. Very sensual stuff. I dated a woman who was half Filipino/half Indian. I also dated an Iranian woman. Can't say I judged their bedroom prowess on their ethnicity, though. Seems kind of shallow and dare I say, racist.
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Post by millar70 on Aug 12, 2020 22:02:01 GMT
I've been with 3 different black women, and let me tell ya, those were some WILD rides! As Mick Jagger once sang, "Black girls like to fuck all night long, but I just don't have enough jam". I've never been with an Indian girl, so can't say much about that. Now if you've never been with an Asian girl, trust me, you haven't lived. Very sensual stuff. I dated a woman who was half Filipino/half Indian. I also dated an Iranian woman. Can't say I judged their bedroom prowess on their ethnicity, though. Seems kind of shallow and dare I say, racist. So? Everything I say probably seems shallow and dare I say, racist to you. Yet you never seem to not respond to much of what I say. Go figure..... |
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Post by hehatesshe on Aug 12, 2020 22:11:24 GMT
I said I wasn't going to watch the debates and you acted as if I questioned their importance. You misunderstood my commentary, and now that I pointed out your mistake, you're shifting your argument to, "Well your opinion doesn't matter in this discussion. This is about everyone else!" Should I try to speak for others next time, or just continue to express my personal opinion?
Ha. "I'll consider you an independent thinker when you say something I agree with."
How long are you willing to literally argue nothing?
Calm down. Trump supporters are going to get more and more psychotic as we get closer to the election.
So how do you think Biden will do in the debates against Trump? You act like Trump hasn't flubbed words, forgotten the names of people he was talking about, forgotten the word he wanted to use, and was wrong about things that are common knowledge to 6th grade students. |
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Aug 12, 2020 22:16:47 GMT
Shakey Joe -
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Aug 12, 2020 22:21:15 GMT
He was working and enjoying life as a truck driver before serious diabetes led to him losing his legs. He actually died from a heart attack after contracting covid. Some facts that will interest you: he was Hulk Hogan's 4th highest drawing prigram behind Savage, Andre and Orndorff. He and Jerry Lawler drew a 6500 crowd when they toured a town of 5,000 people. They also sold out the Memphis auditorium in 1983, one of the last matches to do so. His feud with the Von Erich's was one of thw biggest drawing programs in WCCW history. He refused to deal with WWE again after Summerslam 1992 after he received $15,000 for his match while his opponent, The Undertaker, reportedly received only $500. awesome stuff.
i found this a bit shocking - what's your view on this -
i know Kerry was really screwed up (i.e. drugs) - and wasn't really dependable (i.e. would show up to matches out of it) - but apparently in his dying WWF days - Kamala was going over him during house shows. i know Kamala was a big name - but I just felt Von Erich was bigger and it was a missed opportunity by WWF just giving him the IC strap.
it's amazing - during that time WWF had Martel (AWA Champ), Hennig (AWA Champ), Von Erich (WCCW Champ), Flair (NWA Champ)
They were looking for a pay day between the Ultimate Warrior and Kamala so they needed Kamala winning every match he was in. Kamala was a guy you bring in for a few months, have him squash some mid carders and then lose to a Hogan or Warrior in WWF or Sting/ Flair/ Rhodes in WCW. If you have him losing to mids it just reduces your pay day and hurts his marketability next time you bring him home. That's not to say they handled Von Erich well: they didn't. Hitting him with a stupid Texas Tornado gimmick, not properly building up his feud with Hennig (a territorial dream match really) or putting him in a meaningful well built feud with Martel, not making anything of he and Michaels both having WCCW roots to build up a marquee match there. Not turning him heel when his lame gimmick wasn't working. Think of the possibilities of a heel turn: Piper, Hart, Bulldog all could have been rivals. In short there was more they could, and should, have done with him. Their mistake was putting him in matches with Kamala when his career was still salvagable, not having Kamala beat him. Only people who should be beating Kamala is whatever big star you had him come in to lose to. |
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Aug 12, 2020 22:21:56 GMT
Just for the record, it’s not like Trump is in the same age bracket as Selena Gomez. He’s only three years younger than Biden. It’s also not like Trump has the oratory skills of Winston Churchill either.
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Post by screamingtreefrogs on Aug 12, 2020 22:29:04 GMT
They were looking for a pay day between the Ultimate Warrior and Kamala so they needed Kamala winning every match he was in. Kamala was a guy you bring in for a few months, have him squash some mid carders and then lose to a Hogan or Warrior in WWF or Sting/ Flair/ Rhodes in WCW. If you have him losing to mids it just reduces your pay day and hurts his marketability next time you bring him home. That's not to say they handled Von Erich well: they didn't. Hitting him with a stupid Texas Tornado gimmick, not properly building up his feud with Hennig (a territorial dream match really) or putting him in a meaningful well built feud with Martel, not making anything of he and Michaels both having WCCW roots to build up a marquee match there. Not turning him heel when his lame gimmick wasn't working. Think of the possibilities of a heel turn: Piper, Hart, Bulldog all could have been rivals. In short there was more they could, and should, have done with him. Their mistake was putting him in matches with Kamala when his career was still salvagable, not having Kamala beat him. Only people who should be beating Kamala is whatever big star you had him come in to lose to. Von Erich was absolutely huge in Texas.
You sound like you know your stuff.
Remember when he beat Flair for the NWA strap but they took it off him like 19 days later and gave it back to Flair because he was unreliable - but it was a 'gift' so to speak for the David (was it David or another brother?) Von Erich Memorial - i.e. they put Kerry over Flair in Texas for the strap right after his brother's death. Texas crowd went nuts and ate it up.
Anyway - the name was huge - and like you said - I don't think Vince handled him too well. Sure he took the IC strap off of Hennig which was big - but I thought he should have been in the Main Event Picture.
How's this for booking. Andre beats Hogan for the strap and goes on a dominant heel run as Champ for a few years. In comes Kerry. WWF hold 'Mania in Texas outdoors - Kerry knocks Andre off for the strap at 'Mania in Texas. I think it would have been huge. Or even Kerry coming in and facing Hogan which would have been face vs. face. I know he tagged with Warrior. Could have had him face Warrior, Savage, etc.
Just think they really missed the boat with him (but I guess with all of his personal demons he wasn't viewed as too reliable). There's a match out there (used to be on Youtube) where he's facing Martel and he's out of it (i.e. screwed up in the ring) - was sad to watch.
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Post by fjenkins on Aug 12, 2020 22:29:11 GMT
I’m ok with it, though Biden could have probably picked the corpse of Jeffrey Epstein and I still wouldn’t vote for Trump. This is not a knock on Harris when I say that she is probably the safe pick to make in 2020, which in itself shows how times have changed. I preferred Klobuchar if he was going to pick a woman with Harris becoming AG if they won but it’s all good. She wasn't my first choice (or in my top five for that matter), I wanted Duckworth, but I'm good with it. I think this ticket is going to blow away Trump Pence. Really looking forward to the debates. Theyve got so much ammo, it would take 25 debates to cover it all. Pence is going to be crying for his mommy in that first one against Harris.
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Post by fjenkins on Aug 12, 2020 22:30:57 GMT
Who cares about a Vice Presidential debate? When has that ever made a difference in anything? The most famous moment in a Vice Presidential debate came in 1988 when Lloyd Bentson reminded Dan Quayle that Quayle wasn't JFK. It was a nasty shot at Quayle that was a huge deal when it happened........and of course, ended up meaning nothing as Bush/Quayle won the Presidency. Now speaking of debates, your boy Biden is gonna debate Trump, right? All three times? I mean, Ol' Joe is a tough guy, yes? I'm sure a "fighter" like Joe ain't afraid of actual debates with Orange Man. Cuz if he doesn't debate Trump? Ohhhh, that's a bad look..... Has Biden suggested otherwise? Trump has already floated the idea of delaying the election, that's how scared he is. Personally I won't be watching the debates. Biden might make some solid points, or he might spend the whole time referencing 60 year old movies. Either way Trump will just spend the entire time fabricating narratives left and right. He can't open his mouth without lying, it's not worth listening to anything he has to say. Luckiy Trump doesn't have the power to delay the election. And here's the thing, if he did delay until next year or something, hes out of the white on jan 20 and the speaker takes over. So either way, it's not good for him. Better to get it over with so he can mess up as much as he can in his final two months, which is exactly what he'll do.
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Post by millar70 on Aug 12, 2020 23:04:57 GMT
So how do you think Biden will do in the debates against Trump? You act like Trump hasn't flubbed words, forgotten the names of people he was talking about, forgotten the word he wanted to use, and was wrong about things that are common knowledge to 6th grade students. I never said he hasn't done any of those things. Just because I support Trump, doesn't mean I think he's perfect by any means. I do think he's the better choice though. And I do think that on a stage in front of a live television audience of millions, and with no teleprompter around, Trump will handle himself better than Biden will. Time will tell what happens, but I promise you one thing, I will be honest about what I see on the debate stage. Here's hoping you will be as well. |
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Post by hehatesshe on Aug 12, 2020 23:12:17 GMT
They were looking for a pay day between the Ultimate Warrior and Kamala so they needed Kamala winning every match he was in. Kamala was a guy you bring in for a few months, have him squash some mid carders and then lose to a Hogan or Warrior in WWF or Sting/ Flair/ Rhodes in WCW. If you have him losing to mids it just reduces your pay day and hurts his marketability next time you bring him home. That's not to say they handled Von Erich well: they didn't. Hitting him with a stupid Texas Tornado gimmick, not properly building up his feud with Hennig (a territorial dream match really) or putting him in a meaningful well built feud with Martel, not making anything of he and Michaels both having WCCW roots to build up a marquee match there. Not turning him heel when his lame gimmick wasn't working. Think of the possibilities of a heel turn: Piper, Hart, Bulldog all could have been rivals. In short there was more they could, and should, have done with him. Their mistake was putting him in matches with Kamala when his career was still salvagable, not having Kamala beat him. Only people who should be beating Kamala is whatever big star you had him come in to lose to. Von Erich was absolutely huge in Texas.
You sound like you know your stuff.
Remember when he beat Flair for the NWA strap but they took it off him like 19 days later and gave it back to Flair because he was unreliable - but it was a 'gift' so to speak for the David (was it David or another brother?) Von Erich Memorial - i.e. they put Kerry over Flair in Texas for the strap right after his brother's death. Texas crowd went nuts and ate it up.
Anyway - the name was huge - and like you said - I don't think Vince handled him too well. Sure he took the IC strap off of Hennig which was big - but I thought he should have been in the Main Event Picture.
How's this for booking. Andre beats Hogan for the strap and goes on a dominant heel run as Champ for a few years. In comes Kerry. WWF hold 'Mania in Texas outdoors - Kerry knocks Andre off for the strap at 'Mania in Texas. I think it would have been huge. Or even Kerry coming in and facing Hogan which would have been face vs. face. I know he tagged with Warrior. Could have had him face Warrior, Savage, etc.
Just think they really missed the boat with him (but I guess with all of his personal demons he wasn't viewed as too reliable). There's a match out there (used to be on Youtube) where he's facing Martel and he's out of it (i.e. screwed up in the ring) - was sad to watch.
Remember the Tornado was also wrestling with a destroyed foot that he was trying to hide from everybody. He wasn't long for the WWE.I don't think his run lasted more than 6 months. |
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Post by hehatesshe on Aug 12, 2020 23:19:39 GMT
You act like Trump hasn't flubbed words, forgotten the names of people he was talking about, forgotten the word he wanted to use, and was wrong about things that are common knowledge to 6th grade students. I never said he hasn't done any of those things. Just because I support Trump, doesn't mean I think he's perfect by any means. I do think he's the better choice though. And I do think that on a stage in front of a live television audience of millions, and with no teleprompter around, Trump will handle himself better than Biden will. Time will tell what happens, but I promise you one thing, I will be honest about what I see on the debate stage. Here's hoping you will be as well. It's easy to be good in a debate in your base's eyes when your base doesn't require you to actually be specific about anything. "People say..." "Doing great things" "Best ever" "Great for ____ people." When you don't actually have to say anything, talking for an extended period of time is easy. Biden stumbles as he tries to remember one of a million things he's knowledgeable about. Trump just says some nonspecific trope and his base requires no more. And remembering stuff and being able to recall it is actually a bad thing, or so I've been told. |
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Post by millar70 on Aug 12, 2020 23:25:43 GMT
I never said he hasn't done any of those things. Just because I support Trump, doesn't mean I think he's perfect by any means. I do think he's the better choice though. And I do think that on a stage in front of a live television audience of millions, and with no teleprompter around, Trump will handle himself better than Biden will. Time will tell what happens, but I promise you one thing, I will be honest about what I see on the debate stage. Here's hoping you will be as well. It's easy to be good in a debate in your base's eyes when your base doesn't require you to actually be specific about anything. "People say..." "Doing great things" "Best ever" "Great for ____ people." When you don't actually have to say anything, talking for an extended period of time is easy. Biden stumbles as he tries to remember one of a million things he's knowledgeable about. Trump just says some nonspecific trope and his base requires no more. And remembering stuff and being able to recall it is actually a bad thing, or so I've been told. We'll see what happens, but it sounds like you have your excuses already lined up nicely. Like I said, I'll be honest AFTER they happen, hoping you'll do the same. |
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Post by hehatesshe on Aug 12, 2020 23:30:05 GMT
It's easy to be good in a debate in your base's eyes when your base doesn't require you to actually be specific about anything. "People say..." "Doing great things" "Best ever" "Great for ____ people." When you don't actually have to say anything, talking for an extended period of time is easy. Biden stumbles as he tries to remember one of a million things he's knowledgeable about. Trump just says some nonspecific trope and his base requires no more. And remembering stuff and being able to recall it is actually a bad thing, or so I've been told. We'll see what happens, but it sounds like you have your excuses already lined up nicely. Like I said, I'll be honest AFTER they happen, hoping you'll do the same. He's literally been messing up words for decades. Guaranteed Biden produces more substance. No excuses needed on that front. |
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Post by fjenkins on Aug 13, 2020 18:14:39 GMT
Of the African-American women he was looking at, she felt the most national in scope, which I think is important since many are at least mildly concerned about his health (having a mayor as vice president would have been too dicey for many). You really don't gain anything by taking someone from California, but she's female and black (which they obviously wanted) but also Asian and somebody that who slammed him in the primaries, so it shows that he doesn't hold grudges, something that independents could very easily be tired of Trump for. You're absolutely right - - 2000 me can't believe that Harris would be the safe pick, but I think she actually is. On a side note, she's not African American.
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Post by GiantFan1980 on Aug 13, 2020 20:06:23 GMT
Von Erich was absolutely huge in Texas.
You sound like you know your stuff.
Remember when he beat Flair for the NWA strap but they took it off him like 19 days later and gave it back to Flair because he was unreliable - but it was a 'gift' so to speak for the David (was it David or another brother?) Von Erich Memorial - i.e. they put Kerry over Flair in Texas for the strap right after his brother's death. Texas crowd went nuts and ate it up.
Anyway - the name was huge - and like you said - I don't think Vince handled him too well. Sure he took the IC strap off of Hennig which was big - but I thought he should have been in the Main Event Picture.
How's this for booking. Andre beats Hogan for the strap and goes on a dominant heel run as Champ for a few years. In comes Kerry. WWF hold 'Mania in Texas outdoors - Kerry knocks Andre off for the strap at 'Mania in Texas. I think it would have been huge. Or even Kerry coming in and facing Hogan which would have been face vs. face. I know he tagged with Warrior. Could have had him face Warrior, Savage, etc.
Just think they really missed the boat with him (but I guess with all of his personal demons he wasn't viewed as too reliable). There's a match out there (used to be on Youtube) where he's facing Martel and he's out of it (i.e. screwed up in the ring) - was sad to watch.
Remember the Tornado was also wrestling with a destroyed foot that he was trying to hide from everybody. He wasn't long for the WWE.I don't think his run lasted more than 6 months. Vince was eager to put the belt on the guy who only debuted like 2 weeks prior but then they quickly started regretting it because there was a fear going around backstage about Kerry being drugged out, depressed and suicidal so they got the belt off him as quickly as possible. That's what some historians say anyways.
Kerry actually stuck around until the Summer of 92. He was supposed to face Papa Shango at SummerSlam but was replaced by Tito Santana and was quietly released in August.
After his title run, Kerry was pretty much a jobber and was doing nothing by late 91. So really, he was only a serious contender for about 6 months and then he was just riding out the contract gravy train after that.
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Post by tristramshandy on Aug 13, 2020 20:08:31 GMT
Of the African-American women he was looking at, she felt the most national in scope, which I think is important since many are at least mildly concerned about his health (having a mayor as vice president would have been too dicey for many). You really don't gain anything by taking someone from California, but she's female and black (which they obviously wanted) but also Asian and somebody that who slammed him in the primaries, so it shows that he doesn't hold grudges, something that independents could very easily be tired of Trump for. You're absolutely right - - 2000 me can't believe that Harris would be the safe pick, but I think she actually is. On a side note, she's not African American. I don't get this talking point. She's American. She's black (partially). Jamaica's blacks come from Africa. They were British brought slaves from the continent just like the United States' slaves were. So why are people saying she's not African-American?
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Post by fjenkins on Aug 13, 2020 22:12:30 GMT
On a side note, she's not African American. I don't get this talking point. She's American. She's black (partially). Jamaica's blacks come from Africa. They were British brought slaves from the continent just like the United States' slaves were. So why are people saying she's not African-American? I mean if you go by origin or origin of origin, then we're all African American. She's not. She's a black lady or a Jamacian/Indian American but she's definitely not African American. Charilize Theron is more African American than she is.
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