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Post by darkpast on Aug 23, 2020 3:17:28 GMT
Great for MCU only, others range from bad to mediocre
Captain America The First Avenger Iron Man Captain Marvel Thor
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Post by thenolan on Aug 23, 2020 7:34:42 GMT
None are great from an adult appealing viewing.
The second captain america movie really tried though. but 1 out of 28 films? come on.
What irks me about marvel is their movies gets more childish and more childish and the question is why? the world grows up, its not the opposite.
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Post by thenolan on Aug 23, 2020 8:47:23 GMT
Winter Soldier is the only truly great MCU movie. Most of them are good though. I feel this may be the one common response. when you say most of them are good enough it is because they are what you call disney fun. only thing is Disney fun looks silly to the external marvel movies like spiderman 2 or xmen 2. winter solider may be a tone down version of a james bond film but for mcu standard it is way above their usual.
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Post by thenolan on Aug 23, 2020 8:47:49 GMT
Great for MCU only, others range from bad to mediocre Captain America The First Avenger Iron Man Captain Marvel Thor Thor is the best thor film
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Post by dazz on Aug 23, 2020 9:47:39 GMT
None are great from an adult appealing viewing. The second captain america movie really tried though. but 1 out of 28 films? come on. What irks me about marvel is their movies gets more childish and more childish and the question is why? the world grows up, its not the opposite. There are 23 MCU films you spanner not 28, also really you feel the need to bring needless negativity and the same old tired bullshit to this thread? idiot.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Aug 23, 2020 9:52:52 GMT
I must confess that - aside from some very evident flaws and negative aspects - the first "THOR" movie was overall good.
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Post by dazz on Aug 23, 2020 9:54:06 GMT
Winter Soldier is the only truly great MCU movie. Most of them are good though. I feel this may be the one common response. when you say most of them are good enough it is because they are what you call disney fun. only thing is Disney fun looks silly to the external marvel movies like spiderman 2 or xmen 2. winter solider may be a tone down version of a james bond film but for mcu standard it is way above their usual. Literally 1 person has said that, in a thread with like 20 comments, 4 of which don't even list TWS as a great movie...so it seems more common to dislike TWS than it is to like JUST TWS. And no have you seen Spidey 2 recently? it does not hold up like it once did, and there is a lot of stupid fun in that + huge CGI "theme park" battles and so on, odd how it's full of the things you bitch about in MCU films, then again you are a hypocrite so it isn't surprising.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Aug 23, 2020 10:02:22 GMT
dazzI think "Spider-Man 2" was not a masterpiece. It has a lame screenplay. Raimi did a superb job and made it a very good/great movie, but not a masterpiece. There are way too many flaws in the screenplay. "Spider-Man 1" was vastly better and a real masterpiece IMHO.
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Post by dazz on Aug 23, 2020 10:17:46 GMT
dazz I think "Spider-Man 2" was not a masterpiece. It has a lame screenplay. Raimi did a superb job and made it a very good/great movie, but not a masterpiece. There are way too many flaws in the screenplay. "Spider-Man 1" was vastly better and a real masterpiece IMHO. It was great for it's time, I kind of agree I think Spidey 1 for me is a better movie now, but then I always did love Dafoe hamming it up something fierce, but both still suffer the same "flaws" as a lot of modern action blockbusters, a whole hell of a lot of CGI, and being 18 and 16 years old that CGI has not aged well, also I dunno in Spidey 2 I feel like some of those fight scenes were too video gamey, like it feels like they could have been conceived first as a battle in a video game which they turned into fights in the movie, like the fight on top of the train with Spidey getting thrown through the walkway bridge thing, that just feels like someone thought yeah Doc throws him into it and you have to tape the buttons at the right time to be able to thread the needle . Spidey 2 not holding up though pains me a little, it was one of my fav cmb's for a long time, but that was mostly due to not seeing it for a long time, when I finally rewatched it I was like it's good but it isn't great anymore for me.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Aug 23, 2020 10:32:34 GMT
"Spider-Man 2" was very anticlimatic, the final fight was brief and not articulated like Spidey 1's. Besides, many aspects of the movie felt like an obvious rehash of Spidey 1.
Peter Parker's potray is not that very good, he looks like a parody sometimes. Too immature.
That said, it was a great movie back then, but "Spider-Man 1" was just a masterpiece.
I think the CGI was fine on both the movies!!!!! Well, that was a different era, I mean it's 2002-2004, that was some kind of prehistory of CGI in some ways.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 24, 2020 4:31:25 GMT
Ironman Avengers The Winter Soldier GOTG Civil War Ragnarok Infinity War
I'm going to also include Endgame but ONLY because of how immense an accomplishment it was, so I include it grudgingly as it had a bit too many issues for my liking.
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Post by hobowar on Aug 24, 2020 8:44:34 GMT
1) Avengers: Age of Ultron 2) Iron Man Three 3) Black Panther (The Greatest Comic Book Movie Ever Made) 4) Captain America: The Winter Soldier 5) Guardians of the Galaxy (Both of 'em) 6) The Avengers 7) Captain America: The First Avenger 8) Thor Ragnarok 9) Captain America: Civil War 10) Iron Man 11) Doctor Strange 12) Spider-Man: Homecoming 13) Captain Marvel 14) Spider-Man: Far From Home 15) Avengers: Infinity War 16) Ant-Man 17) Thor: The Dutch Angle 18) The Incredible Hulk 19) Ant-Man and the Wasp 20) Avengers: Endgame 21) Iron Man 2 22) Thor: The Second Thor
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Aug 24, 2020 11:50:42 GMT
I have to admit that i don`t think any of the MCU movies are great
I think most of them are good and some are very good, but i don`t think any of them are great.
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Post by kleinreturns on Aug 24, 2020 17:47:00 GMT
dazz I think "Spider-Man 2" was not a masterpiece. It has a lame screenplay. Raimi did a superb job and made it a very good/great movie, but not a masterpiece. There are way too many flaws in the screenplay. "Spider-Man 1" was vastly better and a real masterpiece IMHO.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Aug 27, 2020 2:22:04 GMT
Iron Man Captain America: The Winter Soldier Thor: Ragnarok Black Panther
I haven't seen the more recent ones.
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Post by thenolan on Aug 27, 2020 14:44:46 GMT
I feel this may be the one common response. when you say most of them are good enough it is because they are what you call disney fun. only thing is Disney fun looks silly to the external marvel movies like spiderman 2 or xmen 2. winter solider may be a tone down version of a james bond film but for mcu standard it is way above their usual. Literally 1 person has said that, in a thread with like 20 comments, 4 of which don't even list TWS as a great movie...so it seems more common to dislike TWS than it is to like JUST TWS. And no have you seen Spidey 2 recently? it does not hold up like it once did, and there is a lot of stupid fun in that + huge CGI "theme park" battles and so on, odd how it's full of the things you bitch about in MCU films, then again you are a hypocrite so it isn't surprising. the one person who is more of a neutral film fan. of course mcu fans will say most are great but that is not true.
Spiderman 2 hold up well compared to mcu moves. spiderman 2 train scenes still stands out more as a VFX Set piece wonder to the basic cgi of mcu movies that makes it look more like a game.
To also be frank. Spiderman 2 makes you hate mcu spiderman because of how childish he comes across to the mature complicated take of tobey's spiderman.
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Post by bud47 on Aug 27, 2020 15:03:29 GMT
Literally 1 person has said that, in a thread with like 20 comments, 4 of which don't even list TWS as a great movie...so it seems more common to dislike TWS than it is to like JUST TWS. And no have you seen Spidey 2 recently? it does not hold up like it once did, and there is a lot of stupid fun in that + huge CGI "theme park" battles and so on, odd how it's full of the things you bitch about in MCU films, then again you are a hypocrite so it isn't surprising. the one person who is more of a neutral film fan. of course mcu fans will say most are great but that is not true.
Spiderman 2 hold up well compared to mcu moves. spiderman 2 train scenes still stands out more as a VFX Set piece wionder to the basic cgi of mcu movies that makes it look more like a game.
To also be frank. Spiderman 2 makes you hate mcu spiderman because of how childish he comes across to the mature complicated take of tobey's spiderman.
You're a parody of a parody at this point. You know that, right?
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Post by thenolan on Aug 27, 2020 15:13:01 GMT
the one person who is more of a neutral film fan. of course mcu fans will say most are great but that is not true.
Spiderman 2 hold up well compared to mcu moves. spiderman 2 train scenes still stands out more as a VFX Set piece wionder to the basic cgi of mcu movies that makes it look more like a game.
To also be frank. Spiderman 2 makes you hate mcu spiderman because of how childish he comes across to the mature complicated take of tobey's spiderman.
You're a parody of a parody at this point. You know that, right? you call it parody I call it fine art. this clip does not lie. its ironic that mcu spiderman is more of a parody to Spiderman 2.
Pratical effects like X2's Nightcrawler that holds up to Endgame's video game feel
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Post by bud47 on Aug 27, 2020 16:19:11 GMT
You're a parody of a parody at this point. You know that, right? you call it parody I call it fine art. this clip does not lie. its ironic that mcu spiderman is more of a parody to Spiderman 2.
Pratical effects like X2's Nightcrawler that holds up to Endgame's video game feel
I said YOU are a parody of a parody. And yes, X2 and Spider-Man 2 are great, entertaining films. There's no need to always compare them. It's a sign of absolute insecurity and bitterness on your part and does nothing to help your cause and hatred against the MCU. It's ok to like both, especially when they both have the same overall goal which is to entertain. They're just on different spectrums, again which is ok. In the end, you're just banging your head on a wall for nothing.
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Post by dazz on Aug 28, 2020 9:01:30 GMT
Literally 1 person has said that, in a thread with like 20 comments, 4 of which don't even list TWS as a great movie...so it seems more common to dislike TWS than it is to like JUST TWS. And no have you seen Spidey 2 recently? it does not hold up like it once did, and there is a lot of stupid fun in that + huge CGI "theme park" battles and so on, odd how it's full of the things you bitch about in MCU films, then again you are a hypocrite so it isn't surprising. the one person who is more of a neutral film fan. of course mcu fans will say most are great but that is not true.
Spiderman 2 hold up well compared to mcu moves. spiderman 2 train scenes still stands out more as a VFX Set piece wonder to the basic cgi of mcu movies that makes it look more like a game.
To also be frank. Spiderman 2 makes you hate mcu spiderman because of how childish he comes across to the mature complicated take of tobey's spiderman.
Oh obviously, of course the one person who says something akin to your own beleifs THEY are the neutral and unbiased person right . Again ONE person has said MOST of the MCU films are great, the rest of us fall between a handful and 10 of them, 10 being less than half of 22 and there by is not saying MOST of the films are great, boy you really are stupid aren't yah. And not true in what sense? see it's a matter of personal taste, guess what you may like a ham and mushroom pizza, think it's the best slice of pizza possible, to me it tastes like shit because I cannot stand mushrooms, personal taste you are not wrong for liking it I am not wrong for disliking it, those are just our own personal tastes, movies are really no different, as you see someone is asking which we THINK are great, why they are great in out OPINION is up to us, and we can see them as being great for any number of reasons, YOU dislike the movies, that's OK that is your opinion based on YOUR tastes and you are entitled to have them, what you are NOT entitled to is telling others they are wrong for having their opinions or making decrees over what is and is not considered great or art, because based on the thing you say, the sheer inability for you to comprehend basic sentences and general cuntishry you display on a daily basis, you sir are no authority on anything other than what it takes to be a massive cunt sack. The VFX for Spidey 2 again do not hold up they literally look like PS3 video game graphics these days, the fighting is just missing the pop up press X button prompts in how the majority of the fights go, even something simple like Spidey sticking onto a wall looks like mediocre CGI, the CGI in the modern films may not always be 100% up to snuff, the seems between the practical and CGI elements in the shots can be spotted a lot, but probably not as much as we would think, given how much special effects are actually used, but normally it's due to the uncanny valley effect in a lot of ways, the minute differences between how a real shot looks vs. the CGI shots, small differences which we notice due to their slight being off sets our brains off more so then required, where as in Spidey 2, there is no minute differences, no uncanny valley, the CGI characters are notably out of place, which for some is easy to take, it's the near perfection, near I say not absolute mind you, but near perfection in the modern CGI which sets off our own "spidey" senses, even then it's for those of us who see a lot of CGI and can spot it, most people don't, I never did as a kid I do now though due to how much CGI I have seen. The overall VFX of Spidey 2 are akin to the final act VFX of Black Panther, to praise one and critic the other is hypocritical, so no wonder you would so such a thing. And not to be frank Spider-Man 2 doesn't make me hate the MCU Spider-Man, see you are trying to push a narrative here, because you are so insecure on YOUR own feeling you try to spout it off baselessly as the opinion of the masses, despite almost no one EVER coming to your defence, and no one really should HATE how MCU Spidey is less mature than Raimi's Spidey considering, MCU Spidey is STILL A CHILD!!! Raimi's Spidey starts off as an 18 year old, transitioning into his twenties, even then he's not that mature, he is a whiny and selfish little bitch, with little regard for anything but his own bullshit, he loses his powers why? because life isn't nice like he wants it to be, he doesn't date MJ for 2 years until she is about to get married at which point Peter decides to fuck with her life because he has a fucking crush on her, after they get together numb nuts is ruining their relationship in under a year through various obviously self destructive actions, oh yeah he is sooooooo mature, only way he's more mature is because Maguire looks 15 years older than Holland, Raimi Spidey = life is hard I quit, MCU Spidey = I died...can I have a vacation?
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