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Post by darkpast on Aug 14, 2020 4:38:27 GMT
Series Premiere Rating - May 13, 2014
Agents of SHIELD - 12.12 Million viewers
Series Finale Rating - August 12, 2020
Agents of SHIELD - 1.46 Million viewers
How was it?
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Aug 14, 2020 5:30:23 GMT
Haven't seen the finale yet. The show was good throughout. I'm not an active Avengers fan so it didn't bother me so much that MCU characters wouldn't appear on the show. Overall the best superhero show edging out Legion because it did it a lot longer.
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Post by President Ackbarβ’ on Aug 14, 2020 5:31:49 GMT
Never seen it.
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Post by darkpast on Aug 14, 2020 5:53:18 GMT
Haven't seen the finale yet. The show was good throughout. I'm not an active Avengers fan so it didn't bother me so much that MCU characters wouldn't appear on the show. Overall the best superhero show edging out Legion because it did it a lot longer. they lost so many viewer after the first season, when did it get better?
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Aug 14, 2020 12:58:21 GMT
Haven't seen the finale yet. The show was good throughout. I'm not an active Avengers fan so it didn't bother me so much that MCU characters wouldn't appear on the show. Overall the best superhero show edging out Legion because it did it a lot longer. they lost so many viewer after the first season, when did it get better? I never thought it was bad. I had no expectations for it and criticisms of the show early on didn't affect my enjoyment of the show. I'd say it jumped a notch with the introduction of Ghost Rider in season 4. Then jumped another notch with season 5 as the show jumped into the far future.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 14, 2020 13:00:24 GMT
The series premiere was September 2013. Television ratings in general have been on a downward spiral since then.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 14, 2020 13:50:22 GMT
Only saw the first three episodes from S1 and checked out. Not really interested in a rewatch.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 14, 2020 19:46:51 GMT
Gave up on it a few seasons ago. Never liked it much, to be honest. It did have a few good episodes here and there, but it was mostly crap.
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Post by DarkManX on Aug 14, 2020 19:48:24 GMT
I stopped watching during season 1 once I realized it was going to be nothing more than an MCU commercial.
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Post by scabab on Aug 14, 2020 19:55:06 GMT
I watched it through Ghost Rider. Never liked it.
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Post by Power Ranger on Aug 17, 2020 7:30:11 GMT
Why is it finishing? Did the studio refuse to pay the $400 budget for each episode?
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Aug 17, 2020 12:25:01 GMT
A solid final episode.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Aug 17, 2020 14:20:26 GMT
I stopped watching during season 1 once I realized it was going to be nothing more than an MCU commercial. So in other words you never actually watched it. It barely had anything to do with the movies, that was the problem.
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Post by DarkManX on Aug 17, 2020 18:57:24 GMT
I stopped watching during season 1 once I realized it was going to be nothing more than an MCU commercial. So in other words you never actually watched it. It barely had anything to do with the movies, that was the problem. I watched about half of the first season maybe more and that show was a commercial for the MCU. One episode was about Thor: The Dark World. SHIELD and the MCU at large had nothing to do with the events in that movie.
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Post by dazz on Aug 18, 2020 19:37:02 GMT
So in other words you never actually watched it. It barely had anything to do with the movies, that was the problem. I watched about half of the first season maybe more and that show was a commercial for the MCU. One episode was about Thor: The Dark World. SHIELD and the MCU at large had nothing to do with the events in that movie. So you gave up before it had a chance? The show as the show runners have openly discussed since TWS was handcuffed for the first 2/3 of S1, they knew the Hydra reveal was coming up but they couldn't tip anyone off, so for the first 16 episodes or so they show was treading water, once that reveal happens the show changes drastically, which makes sense, they spent the first 2/3 of season one setting up how big and strong Shield was, then it gets ripped away, now the team doesn't have the same resources, their authority and what not to do what they are doing, and it's a lot about trying to rebuild Shield but the right way now. Also no that episode wasn't about Thor Dark World, it used Thor as the set up for the episode, same way Homecoming used Avengers as the set up for it's story, which makes sense, how is the events of Dark World going to happen without being mentioned by people in Shield, especially to or by a guy who got killed by Thor's brother?
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Post by DarkManX on Aug 18, 2020 21:18:58 GMT
I watched about half of the first season maybe more and that show was a commercial for the MCU. One episode was about Thor: The Dark World. SHIELD and the MCU at large had nothing to do with the events in that movie. So you gave up before it had a chance? The show as the show runners have openly discussed since TWS was handcuffed for the first 2/3 of S1, they knew the Hydra reveal was coming up but they couldn't tip anyone off, so for the first 16 episodes or so they show was treading water, once that reveal happens the show changes drastically, which makes sense, they spent the first 2/3 of season one setting up how big and strong Shield was, then it gets ripped away, now the team doesn't have the same resources, their authority and what not to do what they are doing, and it's a lot about trying to rebuild Shield but the right way now. Also no that episode wasn't about Thor Dark World, it used Thor as the set up for the episode, same way Homecoming used Avengers as the set up for it's story, which makes sense, how is the events of Dark World going to happen without being mentioned by people in Shield, especially to or by a guy who got killed by Thor's brother? Good writers can get around that. Again the show was completely constricted by the movies and it shouldn't have been. The episode shouldn't have used Thor as a set up, it should have had nothing to do with Thor: The Dark world in any way. By doing that it became a commercial for that movie. The show should have been a show on it's own with only a very, very vague relation to the movies. The Netflix shows made a point of letting viewers know it was the same universe as the films, but they weren't bound to what the movies were doing and weren't commercials for them.
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Post by dazz on Aug 19, 2020 3:52:51 GMT
So you gave up before it had a chance? The show as the show runners have openly discussed since TWS was handcuffed for the first 2/3 of S1, they knew the Hydra reveal was coming up but they couldn't tip anyone off, so for the first 16 episodes or so they show was treading water, once that reveal happens the show changes drastically, which makes sense, they spent the first 2/3 of season one setting up how big and strong Shield was, then it gets ripped away, now the team doesn't have the same resources, their authority and what not to do what they are doing, and it's a lot about trying to rebuild Shield but the right way now. Also no that episode wasn't about Thor Dark World, it used Thor as the set up for the episode, same way Homecoming used Avengers as the set up for it's story, which makes sense, how is the events of Dark World going to happen without being mentioned by people in Shield, especially to or by a guy who got killed by Thor's brother? Good writers can get around that. Again the show was completely constricted by the movies and it shouldn't have been. The episode shouldn't have used Thor as a set up, it should have had nothing to do with Thor: The Dark world in any way. By doing that it became a commercial for that movie. The show should have been a show on it's own with only a very, very vague relation to the movies. The Netflix shows made a point of letting viewers know it was the same universe as the films, but they weren't bound to what the movies were doing and weren't commercials for them. Actually they didn't they hinted at being in the same universe, but they never even directly reference most stuff, also it's easier to do in a localised setting like specific Burroughs or neighbourhoods in New York, Agent's Of Shield was about just that, agents of the global policing/spy group which set up The Avengers and was key in monitoring and working with them, how do you make a show about that without having the movies play a part? especially one about the guy whose brother killed Coulson and the other directly using Shield as a major element to their story? Also how was using the aftermath of Dark World acting as an advertisement for it? how does ooh look at the carnage to a free audience literally a fraction of the size of Dark World's paying audience act as an advertisement? who was watching AOS if they weren't watching the movies? and why spend millions to do so? The Netflix shows HAD to be disconnected from the movies because Feige had got control of the movies but not the shows away from Perlmutter by then, where as AOS was launched under Perlmutter's joint control, AOS was meant to tie in to the movies and vice versa, but then Feige got control and wanted to keep it separate in part due to Perlmutter's bullshit, AOS after TWS picks up steam real quick, because then their status quo changed which they had been handcuffed by that entire lead up, once unrestrained the show hit it's stride, and sometimes it isn't about the writers but the higher ups, you can write any great idea you want, doesn't matter if the guy ultimately in charge wont let you do it though.
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Post by loofapotato on Aug 19, 2020 4:18:45 GMT
The series had a good run for 7 seasons. That is longer than most shows. Overall, throughout the run imo, the series storylines didn't lag despite falling vewiership numbers. Also the finale was not disappointing, it had good closure and leaves the open possibility for spinoffs since S.H.I.E.L.D. is still active in the MCU.
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Post by loofapotato on Aug 19, 2020 4:58:16 GMT
So in other words you never actually watched it. It barely had anything to do with the movies, that was the problem. I watched about half of the first season maybe more and that show was a commercial for the MCU. One episode was about Thor: The Dark World. SHIELD and the MCU at large had nothing to do with the events in that movie. It was "loosely" tied in with Thor: Dark World and also Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Civil War, and Avengers: Age of Ultron but the show episodes delved into the aftermath and repercussions to S.H.I.E.L.D. from those movies. Only 3 cameos came from the MCU movies and none were Avengers. Only Nick Fury, Agent Maria Hill, Peggy Carter, Lady Sif made appearances, and one more from the other spinoff series, Agent Carter. That is were the ties end in the first 2 seasons and the series mostly was a stand alone by itself. You did youself a disservice to think it will continue to just be a commercial lip service to the MCU movies.
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Post by azzajones on Aug 22, 2020 3:10:52 GMT
I've still got a few eps to go in my country, but overall I've like season 7 quite well, time travel was a good idea to for the final season as it allows the show to revisit things throughout the show - although leaving Fitz out of the season seems like a big mistake to me, Fitz & Simmons have gone through enough and they deserve to be be together, I'm guessing Fitz comes back for the final, but still let them be together. A fairly good show overall, although it had its ups & downs, good & bad, but was entertaining enough throughout its run.
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